The 2002 World Cup Thread

[concrete]

soccer

why wasn't there a game at 5 am this morning?
just kidding since so many Big Boys are gone.
look forward to the next round

 

[Andreina]

Re: soccer

This World Cup really kicks ass!

 

[Ask For More]

Just got this in the email today....scandalous or what?


>ROME, June 19 (Reuters) - Italian soccer club Perugia has cut its ties
with
>South Korea's Ahn Jung-Hwan after he scored the goal which knocked
Italy
>out of the World Cup, Perugia's chairman was quoted as saying on
Wednesday.
>'That gentleman will never set foot in Perugia again,' Luciano Gaucci
told
>sports' daily La Gazzetta dello Sport.
>Italy has reacted with fury to Tuesday's shock 2-1 defeat to South
Korea,
>accusing the referee and soccer's ruling body FIFA of fixing the
match.
>Ahn, who missed a penalty earlier in the match, was hailed as a
national
>hero when he headed home the golden goal winner in the 116th minute.
>But his goal was viewed in a different light at Perugia in central
Italy,
>where he has been viewed as an under-achiever during his stay at the
club.
>'He was a phenomenon only when he played against Italy. I am a
nationalist
>and I regard such behaviour not only as an affront to Italian pride
but
>also an offence to a country which two years ago opened its doors to
him,'
>Gaucci was quoted as saying.
>'I have no intention of paying a salary to someone who has ruined
Italian
>soccer.'
>Ahn joined Perugia on loan from the South Korean team Pusan I.cons in
the
>summer of 2000. He scored five goals in 29 appearances.
>

 

[Andreina]

Just got this in the email today....scandalous or what?


>ROME, June 19 (Reuters) - Italian soccer club Perugia has cut its ties
with
>South Korea's Ahn Jung-Hwan after he scored the goal which knocked
Italy
>out of the World Cup, Perugia's chairman was quoted as saying on
Wednesday.
>'That gentleman will never set foot in Perugia again,' Luciano Gaucci
told
>sports' daily La Gazzetta dello Sport.
>Italy has reacted with fury to Tuesday's shock 2-1 defeat to South
Korea,
>accusing the referee and soccer's ruling body FIFA of fixing the
match.
>Ahn, who missed a penalty earlier in the match, was hailed as a
national
>hero when he headed home the golden goal winner in the 116th minute.
>But his goal was viewed in a different light at Perugia in central
Italy,
>where he has been viewed as an under-achiever during his stay at the
club.
>'He was a phenomenon only when he played against Italy. I am a
nationalist
>and I regard such behaviour not only as an affront to Italian pride
but
>also an offence to a country which two years ago opened its doors to
him,'
>Gaucci was quoted as saying.
>'I have no intention of paying a salary to someone who has ruined
Italian
>soccer.'
>Ahn joined Perugia on loan from the South Korean team Pusan I.cons in
the
>summer of 2000. He scored five goals in 29 appearances.
>

yeah, i know, they brought in the news earlier today.... I think Peruggia will have to go to court for that.

 

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Talk about over-reaction.....typical Italians, nothing is ever their fault...

 

[Andreina]

Talk about over-reaction.....typical Italians, nothing is ever their fault...

did you see Trappatoni banging his fists against the FIFA Offical's cabin after Totti saw red? it was a sight for sore eyes.

 

[Ask For More]

I thought it was very amusing

So they were the victim of dodgy refereeing in ONE game, and they decide that their whole world cup went down the pan. Moaning cunts...

What about:

-Taking Del Piero off after 50 minutes to "rest" him for the next match...talk about arrogance!
-Totti's decidely average performance. I'm a fan of his, but he's been way disappointing in this world cup
-A total lack of passion in their play.
-And the way they played full stop! Conceding two late goals to Crotia, scraping past Mexico; they were fortunate to get to the second round in the first place!

But it's all the ref's fault. Oh yes...

I think Belgium have much more to complain about!

 

[District Line]

did you see Trappatoni banging his fists against the FIFA Offical's cabin after Totti saw red? it was a sight for sore eyes.

He's like a caricature hotheaded Italian. I think maybe he's a bit of an old school coach. I can't imagine the likes of Fabio Capella behaving in quite the same way.

 

[District Line]

AFM

The way Perugia are behaving is out of order. Maybe they wanted to get rid of him anyway. Who knows what's in his contract but maybe they are using this to shake him down on compensation or something, appearing to be hurt, proud nationalistic Italians at the same time.

Italians resting star players against supposedly inferior opposition - they won't learn.

I think Sacchi did something like that in Euro '96. Either he didn't pick his star players (not even for the bench) or he took them out the game or something. Anyway the Czechs stuffed them, they had no come back.

 

[District Line]

Re: Re: Re: I just went for a walk...

I think that was the plan!

He was hoping they invite him in, and give him a cool hat.

I want a cool hat ! Guess I'll have to go to 'cool hats r us' tomorrow.

 

[cybergirly]

At least the U.S. team doesn't have to worry about any osterication if they lose to Germany. No one here will know it anyway. I've never noticed before, but they really have no support in this country.

So are injuries going to effect Enland?

 

[cybergirly]

Re: Re: Re: Re: I just went for a walk...

I want a cool hat ! Guess I'll have to go to 'cool hats r us' tomorrow.

Well I want some kind of U.S. team jersey. And I'm ticked that I can't find one.

 

[JazzManJim]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I just went for a walk...

Well I want some kind of U.S. team jersey. And I'm ticked that I can't find one.

Tell me about it. From what I recall from looking a couple of weeks ago, the only football herseys which are being sold by FIFA are the "big boys" and of those, only England and Spain are still in the Cup.

Boy I bet they wished they had made some US and Senegalese jerseys, huh?

 

[cybergirly]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I just went for a walk...

Tell me about it. From what I recall from looking a couple of weeks ago, the only football herseys which are being sold by FIFA are the "big boys" and of those, only England and Spain are still in the Cup.

Boy I bet they wished they had made some US and Senegalese jerseys, huh?

I spent about 4 hours today looking for one. Online, calling around to places (ended up calling all over the damn state) but hey I found a store that carries Mexico team jerseys. Yeah sure...
What's wrong with Nike?

 

[JazzManJim]

At least the U.S. team doesn't have to worry about any osterication if they lose to Germany. No one here will know it anyway. I've never noticed before, but they really have no support in this country.

We're out here. US fandom isn't getting a lot of media coverage, but it's there. The Washington POst ran an article about the fans who hooted it up on DC at 5 AM after the last win.

There are a couple stadia which are televising the games on their Jumbotrons, too. Columbus is (where the Crew play) and Kansas City are a couple, I recall. They each had about 5-6K or so, which isn't a bad crowd for 2:30 in the morning in the Midwest.

It's growing.

Look at it this way. This is the first thing US soccer fans have really had to give them any kind of bragging rights ever. This is the beginning. Give us time.

 

[cybergirly]

I don't know if time is going to make a difference. Unfortunatly with the WC only being every 4 years I don't see enough support for any local leagues. Look at the womens team, other than a couple of short lived advertising campaigns, does anyone remember?

 

[fanzee1]

jerseys? we've got jerseys

this link goes to the official us soccer site. they have a store that sells authentic and replica jerseys. These look like the real deal.


http://www.ussoccerstore.com/



Edited to say these look like the up to date jerseys.

 

[cybergirly]

Re: jerseys? we've got jerseys

this link goes to the official us soccer site. they have a store that sells authentic and replica jerseys. These look like the real deal.


http://www.ussoccerstore.com/



Edited to say these look like the up to date jerseys.

Thanks fanz. Can't believe I just paid $32 for next day delivery

 

[fanzee1]

Re: Re: jerseys? we've got jerseys

Thanks fanz. Can't believe I just paid $32 for next day delivery

go cybergirly. you're a big sports fan. i like that.

 

[Gord]

You're kidding me. 40-1?? Which team has the longer odds to get to the final?

Seriously, a US v England finals really isn't that tough to imagine.

NO that is the odds for a US -England final

US are the longest ods to win also at 40 -1

rest of book to win WC is

Brazil 5 - 2

England 100-30

Germany 4-1

Korea 12 -1

Senegal 18 -1

Turkey 20 -1

Worth an each way bet

$200 bet on US will get you $4000 if they reach final and $8000 if they win it !!

 

[Andreina]

Life sucks with no WC games on.

Less than 24hrs to go now... WOHOOO!!!

 

[p_p_man]

We're out here. US fandom isn't getting a lot of media coverage, but it's there. The Washington POst ran an article about the fans who hooted it up on DC at 5 AM after the last win.

That's it! By George I think you've got it!

What the US needs is some good old fashioned drunken louts passing themselves off as fans. A few street riots after a match. The destruction of one or two playing pitches. And truly loutish behaviour soon gets the media interested.

And once the bandwagon starts it gains it's own momentum by attracting other fans who can then go to the games and support the team in the way they deserve...

Now where did I leave my 'bovver boy' boots...

 

[Ask For More]

Not long now...

I put a bet down on England to win 2-1 and Rivaldo to be the first scorer at 66-1. Admittedly I only put a couple of quid on, but it's still a worthwhile bet

 

[Gord]

Not long now...

I put a bet down on England to win 2-1 and Rivaldo to be the first scorer at 66-1. Admittedly I only put a couple of quid on, but it's still a worthwhile bet

Rivaldo first scorer at 66-1 - are you sure that is fantastic odds tell me where I will get 50 quid on straight away - Beckham is only 10-1 . I cant believe Rivaldo is 66-1 . It must be a mistake

 

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No it's a double bet, so the total odds for England to win 2-1 with Rivaldo to score first are 66-1
Rivaldo to be first scorer is about 10-1 ish as well

Although other good bets are 33-1 on Brazil at halftime and England full time (which I also got), and 28-1 on England half time and Brazil full time
Strangely, the odds for a draw are real low....I thought a draw would be highly unlikely with these two teams.