The 2002 World Cup Thread

[District Line]

Well done the U.S. boys !

However, I have to disagree with the poster who said that this win is on a par with the win by Senegal over the French. There 's not much of a comparison.

The French are World and European nations champions. Senegal had never reached a World Cup tournament before.

Although the Portugese are a good team, they have never won the World Cup. They only reached the semi-final stage of the European nations championship.

The U.S. team have been in several World Cup tournaments before and have had previous victories, they 're not that bad.

I'm making this point merely as a point of order, I don' t mean to downplay the U.S. victory. On the whole Portugal are a good team and this is a good win.

Also, good luck to the boys in emerald today.

 

[solid_]

I was rooting for the USA all the way by the way My SO is American.

 

[bluespoke]

However, I have to disagree with the poster who said that this win is on a par with the win by Senegal over the French. There 's not much of a comparison.


The U.S. team have been in several World Cup tournaments before and have had previous victories, they 're not that bad.

So true. Now who were one of their previous victims errr...........

ENGLAND!

 

[solid_]

So true. Now who were one of their previous victims errr...........

ENGLAND!

USA have only beat us in a friendly match that I can remember. Never at a worldcup unless you can prove otherwise.?

 

[bluespoke]

USA have only beat us in a friendly match that I can remember. Never at a worldcup unless you can prove otherwise.?

June 29th 1950, the score was 1-0, it was the biggest shock in World Cup history.

Williams, Ramsey, Aston, Wright, Hughes, Dickinson, Finney, Mortensen, Bentley, Mannion, Mullen.

 

[solid_]

June 29th 1950, the score was 1-0, it was the biggest shock in World Cup history.

Williams, Ramsey, Aston, Wright, Hughes, Dickinson, Finney, Mortensen, Bentley, Mannion, Mullen.

I stand corrected, My worldcup database only goes back as far as 1966 I wonder why, lol.

 

[bluespoke]

I stand corrected, My worldcup database only goes back as far as 1966 I wonder why, lol.

I wonder........... Grrrrrrrrr!

 

[JazzManJim]

[BI think the result is to flattering and the USA shouldnt get over confident. Portugal defensively they were inept and lacked any kind of organisation.

In second half Portugal started to play a little and the USA where lucky to come away with all 3 points. [/B]

Feh. They had the Portuguese on their heels virtualy the entire game. Even after the US "bunkered" in the second half, there was only four quality chances for the opposition. p_p_man, one of my new football buddies, was right. In the last 10-15 minutes of play, the US looked like they were playing an exhibition match.

And let's not forget that the US was 13th in the World Rankings. Sure, that still made them underdogs against this team, but beating them wasn't like the "Miracle on Ice" or anything. We'll reserve something of that magnitude for when they win the Cup.

And I have to agree about Agoos. What the heck was that guy doing out there. He looked horrible on defense - flatfooted and outmatched most of the time.

 

[District Line]

Bluespoke is correct.

The win by the U.S. over England was at a time when England had a higher status in football. They were meant to be one of the favourites in 1950 tournament.

 

[solid_]

79 minutes: Ireland 0 - 1 Germany

The irish better hurry up and score.

It will spoil my day if the Germans win.

 

[p_p_man]

Doesn't it make you feel proud?

Sleeping giant wakes up

by FIFAworldcup.com

"THE DAY REPLAYED - It must be something in the air. The first Asian finals are not only producing plenty of goals and attacking football but what every great tournament needs – surprises. It happened on the opening day when Senegal defeated France and now on the final opening fixture with the United States’ victory over Portugal.

For 36 minutes of their Group D match against fancied Portugal, the U.S. stunned a watching world. By that time they were winning 3-0 up against Luis Figo, Rui Costa and co. In the new continent, it appeared the sleeping giant of football had finally awoken.

The Americans played with a verve, technique and spirit unheard of and appeared capable of scoring at will against a fragile backline. While Portugal pulled two goals back, they were unable to dominate possession. With many of their countrymen waking up to hear the news, the U.S.’s will send alarm bells ringing with perhaps their greatest ever modern-day football performance.

Next stop, host nation Korea in what will surely be one of the matches of the tournament."


ppman

 

[fanzee1]

What's a matter with you yanks cant you take a bit of unbiased opinion, Or is it cause its the opinion of a brit wanker.

oh you brits get me soooo riled up!


LOL!

 

[fanzee1]

i'll vouch for that

June 29th 1950, the score was 1-0, it was the biggest shock in World Cup history.

Williams, Ramsey, Aston, Wright, Hughes, Dickinson, Finney, Mortensen, Bentley, Mannion, Mullen.

u.s. television talked about that game a few times as today's upset was developing.

 

[p_p_man]

Re: i'll vouch for that

u.s. television talked about that game a few times as today's upset was developing.

<ahem> and one we'd prefer to forget...

 

[fanzee1]

Feh. They had the Portuguese on their heels virtualy the entire game. Even after the US "bunkered" in the second half, there was only four quality chances for the opposition. p_p_man, one of my new football buddies, was right. In the last 10-15 minutes of play, the US looked like they were playing an exhibition match.

And let's not forget that the US was 13th in the World Rankings. Sure, that still made them underdogs against this team, but beating them wasn't like the "Miracle on Ice" or anything. We'll reserve something of that magnitude for when they win the Cup.

And I have to agree about Agoos. What the heck was that guy doing out there. He looked horrible on defense - flatfooted and outmatched most of the time.

Hopefully David Regis (of FC Metz) will be available for the next game. His injury is the reason (or at least a reason) agoos was out there. In fairness to jeff, he's well past his prime and i think they wanted to give a guy with well over 100 caps a start in his first world cup. The time for favors is over, however. The rest of our defenders were excellent, i thought so we need only to sure up his spot and the back line should be rock solid.

 

[fanzee1]

Re: Doesn't it make you feel proud?

Sleeping giant wakes up

by FIFAworldcup.com

"THE DAY REPLAYED - It must be something in the air. The first Asian finals are not only producing plenty of goals and attacking football but what every great tournament needs – surprises. It happened on the opening day when Senegal defeated France and now on the final opening fixture with the United States’ victory over Portugal.

For 36 minutes of their Group D match against fancied Portugal, the U.S. stunned a watching world. By that time they were winning 3-0 up against Luis Figo, Rui Costa and co. In the new continent, it appeared the sleeping giant of football had finally awoken.

The Americans played with a verve, technique and spirit unheard of and appeared capable of scoring at will against a fragile backline. While Portugal pulled two goals back, they were unable to dominate possession. With many of their countrymen waking up to hear the news, the U.S.’s will send alarm bells ringing with perhaps their greatest ever modern-day football performance.

Next stop, host nation Korea in what will surely be one of the matches of the tournament."


ppman

thanks for the post. Hey where are you getting your reports, pp?

I'm a journalist myself and i like to compare the different styles.

 

[fanzee1]

Re: Re: i'll vouch for that

<ahem> and one we'd prefer to forget...

hehe. i won't bring it up again...unless it becomes ah relevant, IF you know what i mean.


j/k. i'm sure it won't come to that.

 

[fanzee1]

so how was ireland/germany

i was out playing softball. What's the skinny on this one?

 

[p_p_man]

Re: Re: Doesn't it make you feel proud?

thanks for the post. Hey where are you getting your reports, pp?

I'm a journalist myself and i like to compare the different styles.

From the FIFA Official World Cup site:

FIFA Official World Cup Site

I'm keeping up to date on everything through it...

 

[fanzee1]

Re: Re: Re: Doesn't it make you feel proud?

From the FIFA Official World Cup site:

FIFA Official World Cup Site

I'm keeping up to date on everything through it...

OK thanks. For the record, i've been going to http://worldcup/espnsoccernet.com for my info.

 

[Ask For More]

The USA vs Portugal match was a real barnstormer! Fair play to the US for pulling off such a great result, they look to be much improved from the last World Cup! Japan's match yesterday was also a cracker, with dodgy refereeing and some pretty good football being played too.

So any preliminary thoughts for England vs Argentina? I feel that England would have to be very lucky to win, but a draw is not beyond them if Becks can last the whole ninety. I would also prefer Nicky Butt to Owen Hargreaves, purely on experience.

 

[fanzee1]

The USA vs Portugal match was a real barnstormer! Fair play to the US for pulling off such a great result, they look to be much improved from the last World Cup! Japan's match yesterday was also a cracker, with dodgy refereeing and some pretty good football being played too.

So any preliminary thoughts for England vs Argentina? I feel that England would have to be very lucky to win, but a draw is not beyond them if Becks can last the whole ninety. I would also prefer Nicky Butt to Owen Hargreaves, purely on experience.

i think england/argentina will be a war. And i agree with you about Nicky Butt. Of course, i always want him in games, purely for his name! I think you're right, though.

 

[Ask For More]

Let's hope it doesn't degenerate into a war. So far the matches have been played in pretty good spirit, bar the Brazil vs Turkey match, with some disgraceful behaviour on both sides, although Rivaldo's play acting was absolutely shocking. He should be banned from the rest of the finals IMHO. I don't mind if the Argies have plenty sent off as long as England keep their heads!

 

[fanzee1]

Let's hope it doesn't degenerate into a war. So far the matches have been played in pretty good spirit, bar the Brazil vs Turkey match, with some disgraceful behaviour on both sides, although Rivaldo's play acting was absolutely shocking. He should be banned from the rest of the finals IMHO. I don't mind if the Argies have plenty sent off as long as England keep their heads!

poor choice of words on my part to say war. That's just slang for a highly competitive match around here. And i expect nothing less from argentina/england.

 

[p_p_man]

So any preliminary thoughts for England vs Argentina?

I'll give it my concentration tomorrow. I'm too exhausted after today's games to concentrate...

Oh except for one thing.

We'd better play a damn sight better than we did against Sweden.


ppman