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Thank you, Ange. It was fun.

I would like to make a proposal - that form poems be identified by the author. It would help beginners - and me. :)
 
Happy Mothers Day poets. Ku @butters left a good one in her diversity thread that I am going to read a few more times for the heart warmth it creates.
 
Tzara said:
How does one write a poem? How does one structure a poem?

One really good solution to this is to make a kind of story. It doesn't have to be elaborate, or showy, or linguistically frilly. It just needs to engage the reader with some basic narrative that he or she can relate to.

Like Angie's "Awakening." Twenty lines, very basic story, but interesting and compelling. The poem is more than a "I looked hot in that swimsuit" poem--it references older women's opinion, the narrator's uncertainty about how she looks, her growing confidence about how she looks, the whole thing about incipient sexuality.

It is, in other words, about the emotions experienced by the narrator, which is what makes it a poem.

Or, at least to me, a pretty good one.
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My prose mumbling poetry:

If a novel is a house, then a short story is a room in the house and a poem is a door that opens up a room into a house.

But what about prose poetry? If Poetry is a Dark Horse then a prose poem is a dark horse standing in the night.

I ask, what differentiates prose poetry from prose? Perhaps this simple question is the answer: does a map book or google maps use metaphor or simile? What about Scientific discourse, Legal documents; I imagine a Medical text book written with poetical devices! So let’s just hope prose doesn’t always include poetic language.

Other useful questions are: when is a soliloquy a form of spoken prosetory? Is a soliloquy a form of spoken poetry? Or not? Importantly wtf is a soliloquy. The question being is it a form of prose poetry? Further to, what are the ‘stylistic’ differences of writing for the screen and writing for the page? Maybe it is a Scripts treatment of ‘black print’ which materializes in pictures. Is that prose poetry?

If, poetry is foundational to prose poetry, the crux of the prosetory question becomes: what literary devices aren't used in poetry? It is likely none. What poetical device’s aren’t used in prose? There are Many.

But still when I think about prose poetry as a dark horse standing in the night; which is prose, which is poetry; is that even a question?
 
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In a similar vein what is Prose poetry?

I am a fan of Prose poetry which I recently have discovered some call prosetry.

In introspection I ask, what differentiates prosetory from prose? A simple answer: poetry always uses poetical devices. Prose does not.

Other useful questions to ask perhaps are: when is a soliloquy a form of spoken prosetory? And, is a soliloquy a form of spoken poetry or not?

To further fathom the differences between prose and prose poetry we could ask! what is the ‘stylistic’ differences between writing for the screen and writing for the page? In my view the answer is found in a Scripts treatment of ‘black print.

The connection between prose poetry and this thread?

I posit the following analogy, if a novel is the story of a house, and a room in said house a short story, then: a poem is a door way that opens up into a house. Or a single brick that tells the entire story, of a wall, that becomes a house.

Given poetry is foundational to prose being poetry, the crux of the prosetory prose question remains: what literary devices aren't used in poetry? Maybe none. What literary device’s aren’t used in prose? Maybe some.

From which I conclude who knows? Certainly not me.
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That's a lot of questions and I'm not sure but they're just rhetorical, but this angel shall rush in where fools are probably too smart to tread. 😄

I define prose poetry as poetry without line breaks but *with* poetic devices. I never thought of this before, but one could probably define an American Sentence as prose poetry.

How many poetic devices help one determine as to poetry or prose? That's subjective imho. I guess if a piece of writing is mostly plot and information one would call it prose even were there a few solid images, a metaphor, even a stray rhyme or two.

An American Sentence only has 17 syllables: how many poetic devices can one squeeze into that and still convey meaning? Maybe American Sentences are really prose? But if I submitted one to be published here no one would call it a story. It's too short. If I wrote a Senryu (which I think is more prone to sound like prose than Haiku), you might not think it's good, but you'd call it a poem. What if I took out the line breaks?

So my point is that a lot of this stuff is up to the reader to define. What about writers like James Joyce or Virginia Woolf? Are their novels really long prose poems? I guess I'm more concerned with whether I write something I think is good than how someone else wants to define it.

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@butters, with no intention to take anything away from the bite of your poem, I have to say that "pale weeds and broken asphalt" would be such a good title for a country song.

Ego run amuk and unchecked is so uncomfortable to witness, at best. You hit lots of nails on the head with your write.
 
Ambient4190 said:
Hi JaySecrets - please, I would love to read your poem however you posted a Link? I don't click on links....is it possible to post the poem in the thread?
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It was an off the cuff video of something composed on the fly. There is no written version, and it really only works as spoken word poetry. I will try to download that video onto my phone, but I don't know how to post that video onto here from there. 🥺
 
JaySecrets said:
It was an off the cuff video of something composed on the fly. There is no written version, and it really only works as spoken word poetry. I will try to download that video onto my phone, but I don't know how to post that video onto here from there. 🥺
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You should try Vocaroo.
 
This is a quick drive-by post to say how impressed I am with the wonderful poems y'all have been producing of late. I feel like there's a really good vibe on the forum, people picking up inspiration from each other. I just read a bunch of poem-a-week pieces that I love. And who knew there are (well were) either cocktails? Sounds dangerous! And thanks to Tzara, my favorite purveyor of esoteric trivia in poetry for sharing *that* info. 🍸🍸🍸

Well done all of you. Thanks for the poems. 🌹🌹🌹
 
Hey Mr Wat_Tyler, "Bad Wiring" is an exceptional piece of writing. Thank you for posting it. 🌹
 
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