The Hardest Riddle I Know

[CharleyH]

Bow before my superior intellect.

Hm, not quite yet. You are making this more complicated than need be. You are trying to work out the correct answer instead of eliminating the wrong answers.

Nonetheless, we both have the same answer, only I got to it in 5 minutes miss smarty pants.

And we'll talk about who's bowing to whom later - LOL - bowing indeed.

 

[Guest]

miss smarty pants

Ooh, that makes me feel funny. P.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Hm, not quite yet. You are making this more complicated than need be. You are trying to work out the correct answer instead of eliminating the wrong answers.

Nonetheless, we both have the same answer, only I got to it in 5 minutes miss smarty pants.

You guessed the right answer in 5 minutes. I guessed the right answer in 5 minutes. But in order to prove your guess, you must go about all possibilities logically. And the fact is, you must try to work out the correct answer, because there is no way of eliminating all the wrong ones:


'Critic' > Low > Y.Y.
1. No person who has seen me in a green tie is to choose before Low. (Check. 'Critic' chooses before Low, but there is no evidence he saw 'me' in a green tie)
2. If Y.Y. was not in Oxford in 1990, the first chooser never lent me an umbrella. (Check. There is no evidence that 'Critic' ever lent 'me' an umbrella)
3. If Y.Y. or 'Critic' has second choice, 'Critic' comes before the one who first fell in love. (Check. Low has second choice, so whatever you say.)

Y.Y > Low > 'Critic'
1. No person who has seen me in a green tie is to choose before Low. (Check. Y.Y. chooses before Low, but there is no evidence he saw 'me' in a green tie)
2. If Y.Y. was not in Oxford in 1990, the first chooser never lent me an umbrella. (Check. There is no evidence that Y.Y. ever lent 'me' an umbrella)
3. If Y.Y. or 'Critic' has second choice, 'Critic' comes before the one who first fell in love. (Check. Low has second choice, so whatever you say.)





And let's not forget the second question. The fact that you gave an answer is proof enough that you overlooked important factors.

 

[CharleyH]

Ouch - You are hurting my brain - lol.

Still, I believe you can arrive at an answer through elimination. I did.

Hey P. What can I say, I'm weird?

 

[Guest]

Hey P. What can I say, I'm weird?

And that's what appeals, always.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

It's like Attack of The BIG Brained Beauties.!!!!!!!

~A~off to enjoy my right brained world.

 

[CharleyH]

Actually odd is a better word, one that my family uses constantly, and I wear it with pride. I take it as the highest, set me apart, compliment.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Actually odd is a better word, one that my family uses constantly, and I wear it with pride. I take it as the highest, set me apart, compliment.

I'd say it's an understatement.

running away and laughiing like Daffy Duck.

 

[Boboosethemoose]

So I was wrong on the logic puzzle, oh well. No one has still been able to give me the second answer to my puzzle. If you forgot the riddle here it is again.

"I make blind men see,
and seeing men blind,
I also tell time,
what am I?"


One of the answers is the sun which is true, but no one has figure out the second one. I even gave you a clue.
"Think of all the ways you measure time. Even if its an old way."

I have a submission that is pending. When it is approved and I have at least 50 votes then I will post the second answer. That is if no one answers it first.

 

[Nemasis Enforcer]

So I was wrong on the logic puzzle, oh well. No one has still been able to give me the second answer to my puzzle. If you forgot the riddle here it is again.

"I make blind men see,
and seeing men blind,
I also tell time,
what am I?"


One of the answers is the sun which is true, but no one has figure out the second one. I even gave you a clue.
"Think of all the ways you measure time. Even if its an old way."

I have a submission that is pending. When it is approved and I have at least 50 votes then I will post the second answer. That is if no one answers it first.

Sundial is the only thing I can think of that measures time that isn't a clock but I can't place it in your riddle about blind men seeing and seeing men blind...

 

[Boboosethemoose]

Sundial is the only thing I can think of that measures time that isn't a clock but I can't place it in your riddle about blind men seeing and seeing men blind...

Not bad with the answer, it wasn't bad. You are thinking the right way. Just think of other ways to "measure" time. (Could that be a clue?)

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

So I was wrong on the logic puzzle, oh well. No one has still been able to give me the second answer to my puzzle. If you forgot the riddle here it is again.

"I make blind men see,
and seeing men blind,
I also tell time,
what am I?"


One of the answers is the sun which is true, but no one has figure out the second one. I even gave you a clue.
"Think of all the ways you measure time. Even if its an old way."

I have a submission that is pending. When it is approved and I have at least 50 votes then I will post the second answer. That is if no one answers it first.

I don't know why heartbeats and blood are popping into my head right now. Probably too much science work. Blood to the ocular veins allow sight to occur, and blood in the eyes is one of the older blinding enemies maneuvers and a heartbeat does keep time. However, I'm probably completely wrong.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Not bad with the answer, it wasn't bad. You are thinking the right way. Just think of other ways to "measure" time. (Could that be a clue?)

If it has to do with faces on clocks, I'll be forced to hurt you.

 

[Boboosethemoose]

If it has to do with faces on clocks, I'll be forced to hurt you.

No it has nothing to do with faces on clocks. That means you can't hurt me. (RATS)

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

No it has nothing to do with faces on clocks. That means you can't hurt me. (RATS)

Foiled Again!
And I would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those meddling kids

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

And now a riddle of mine own

I am omnipresent in your particular planet.
I help drive the vehicle and the beast that mans it.
I am the clouds floating high and free.
I am the clink that makes the iced tea.
I exist everywhere in many forms with many solids
And without me life would be dry and pallid.
What am I?

Good luck, keep your answers covered and raise your hand if you need anything.

P.S. I have more of this type if anyone is interested in trying any others.

 

[snooper]

Bow before my superior intellect.

Er ... not quite yet.
The second part is soluble, in that one, and only one, can have lent the umbrella.

 

[Rusty914]

Gotta love the internet....it's a similar type

http://www.flooble.com/perplexus/show.php?pid=1574&cid=11164

 

[CharleyH]

Er ... not quite yet.
The second part is soluble, in that one, and only one, can have lent the umbrella.

HAhaha! That's exactly what I told her!!

Is it not Critic?

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Er ... not quite yet.
The second part is soluble, in that one, and only one, can have lent the umbrella.

Of course you would think there is, or you wouldn't have asked, but in that case you're going to have to demonstrate it. Can't see how, though.

 

[CharleyH]

"Y.Y. was not in Oxford in 1990 the first chooser never lent me an umbrella."

Lauren, this statement is not arbitrary. Simplistically, it states that the umbrella was lent in 1990, therefore the only person who could have lent the umbrella is critic since YY was not there, and Low is first.

Just because I have a different methodology, doesn't necessarily mean I am wrong.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

"Y.Y. was not in Oxford in 1990 the first chooser never lent me an umbrella."

Lauren, this statement is not arbitrary. Simplistically, it states that the umbrella was lent in 1990, therefore the only person who could have lent the umbrella is critic since YY was not there, and Low is first.

Just because I have a different methodology, doesn't necessarily mean I am wrong.

And that, as I said before I even gave the answer to it, is exactly what is fundamentally wrong with this riddle. Simplistically, you're making an interpretation that constitutes a leap of logic completely unaccounted for.

Regardless of the intention of the person who wrote the riddle, what is written is: "If Y.Y. was not in Oxford in 1990 the first chooser never lent me an umbrella."

That there was only one umbrella being lent and that it was lent in Oxford in 1990 is your interpretation, but it's definitely not what is being stated. As a former law student you should know, wordage is everything. The only thing explicitly stated is that if A is truth, then B is truth. Any other correlation between the two is purely a product of your mind.

 

[CharleyH]

And that, as I said before I even gave the answer to it, is exactly what is fundamentally wrong with this riddle. Simplistically, you're making an interpretation that constitutes a leap of logic completely unaccounted for.

Regardless of the intention of the person who wrote the riddle, what is written is: "If Y.Y. was not in Oxford in 1990 the first chooser never lent me an umbrella."

That there was only one umbrella being lent and that it was lent in Oxford in 1990 is your interpretation, but it's definitely not what is being stated. As a former law student you should know, wordage is everything. The only thing explicitly stated is that if A is truth, then B is truth. Any other correlation between the two is purely a product of your mind.

Law was too dull for me, but thanks The sentence, as each of the sentences, are semiotically structured (everything in the language) and not arbitrary. The intention of the writer may not have been to make the answers so obvious, but the fact is that he did. It is a poorly written puzzle. If YY was NOT in Oxford in 1990, then the first chooser never lent me the umbrella.

Where are your glasses? Hmm Ok . . .back to it.

The sentence is explicit. If YY was not, which he was not, then the first chooser, who is also associated with 1990, never lent the umbrella. Considering Low is the first person, this leaves the deduction . . . critic is the only possible answer.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

If YY was not, which he was not, then the first chooser, who is also associated with 1990, never lent the umbrella. Considering Low is the first person, this leaves the deduction . . . critic is the only possible answer.

I would agree with you completely, except you can't possibly make the affirmation in red. It's your interpretation of the sentance, not what is being explicitly said.

In trying to make the answer to a ridiculously simple riddle less obvious, the writer simply screwed it up beyond repair*.


*Although strangely making it that much more compelling. Instead of 30 seconds to figure out the answer the author intended, it takes 30 minutes to figure out there isn't one.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I would agree with you completely, except you can't possibly make the affirmation in red. It's your interpretation of the sentance, not what is being explicitly said.

In trying to make the answer to a ridiculously simple riddle less obvious, the writer simply screwed it up beyond repair*.


*Although strangely making it that much more compelling. Instead of 30 seconds to figure out the answer the author intended, it takes 30 minutes to figure out there isn't one.

Are you intimidated by Charley's big brain? I think she's got you sweets.