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Heh. That question brought back a restaurant *after* 18 that put the lie to what I said above :( I think I *wanted* to forget about it.

When I was 21, I worked very briefly as a server in a restaurant owned/operated by a franchise team in a certain (un-named) national park in south Florida that operated the hotel, restaurant, gas station and marina that were the only commercial facilities of any kind for almost 40 (road) miles. I was *told* that it was a well-managed facility of some 35 tables served by up to seven servers (depending on time of day) and the food was prepared by two qualified chefs in a "state of the art" kitchen.

When I got there, I found that the total number of servers available for three meal services a day, seven days a week, was five, of which there were almost never more than three on duty at one time. There was next to no service assistance - no busboys, one dishwasher, but only from 11 a.m. on, etc. - and two *cooks,* not chefs. Servers were required to take turns cooking breakfast service, as the cooks worked only lunch and dinner.

Servers also had to set/clear tables, run the register for their tabs (only one drawer, so a thieving server could short the drawer at any time, and the others suffered for it, as any shorts had to be made up from our {lousy} tips or paychecks), wash any dishes we might run out of before the dishwasher showed up, and sweep and mop the tile floors (including the kitchen) in the 30 minutes between service periods.

The food quality was institutional, as in public school/prison type institutional. The cooks there had no idea how to make it better - in fact, I think both of them had *been* either school or prison cooks. The prices, as in most monopolies, were outrageously high, since the alternative for visitors was to drive for nearly an hour to the next available food service. Therefore, tips were, *when given,* miniscule. A $1 tip on a $20+ dollar meal for three or four was considered good.

At the end of day two, I told the "manager" he could take this job and my two-day check and shove it (and yes, this *was* before Johnny Paycheck), got in my car, loaded up my clothes and stuff, and hauled ass out of there.

Oh, yeah - we were expected to *pay* for the meals we ate in the breaks between meal services while working 12-hour shifts - with the magnificent benefit of a 15% discount from the menu price.


When I listen to stuff like this and then hear people whine about tipping or about tipping 15 percent or bitch about doing it like they do it in Europe, I wish those people this day in a time machine as you.
 
Well we usually tip 10-12 per cent in the UK but we do usually tip.

I worked at an unnamed American-run brand-new theme park in Paris in the early 1990s. I was very glad when my contract ended.
 
My experience of Europe while living here over the past 8+ years is that tipping is a must.... I even have a dish in the hall now for tips for home delivered food, and also for the annual tips given to people who deliver junk mail etc., when they come knocking at the end of the year. Restaurants are around 10-20% tip, depending on the service and quality of food. We are more generous in countries where life is harder such as Bulgaria...and damn, their food is unbelievable....would go back in a minute just to dine there.:cattail:

Catalina:rose:
 
Well we usually tip 10-12 per cent in the UK but we do usually tip.

I worked at an unnamed American-run brand-new theme park in Paris in the early 1990s. I was very glad when my contract ended.

I think you guys also all have health care and are they unionized like in France? Maybe France is the outlier or shit's changed, but people (the waiters I mean) acted like it was crazy when I tipped at all, and it was almost always included in the bill automatically. As it should be. If you suck that bad people can open their mouths and complain not refuse to pay you.

I always tip everyone, even if I'm getting take out I throw the guy a few bucks. France was the only place that people would laugh at me and try to give it back!
 
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i thought it was very weird in Ireland because the first thing Jounar said to me was "oh, we don't tip here". I then watched him tip the cabbie, the maid, and every place we went. Well except for when we ate at the hotel rest. The waitress spilled my drink on me and didn't even offer extra napkins or appologize. And that was after we had agreed it was shitty service.
 
I'm less a tipper, more a 'keep the change' kind of person, most of the time.

Really good restaurants etc get a bit more.

But then, I think also our minimum wage is better than the US, so while tips are nice, they're not necessary to make a decent hourly rate.
 
I'm less a tipper, more a 'keep the change' kind of person, most of the time.

Really good restaurants etc get a bit more.

But then, I think also our minimum wage is better than the US, so while tips are nice, they're not necessary to make a decent hourly rate.

Well see that's the thing with service restaurants, they don't have to give you min wage. Because you earn tips, they can say "oh, she will earn an average of $3 an hour in tips here, so we really only have to pay $4.50 to make min wage" so that's why people throw a fuss over tipping here. Because employers count on them getting tips. And it's not like they adjust the wage if you don't.
 
No tips in New Zealand. People are surprised as hell if you do. Like cattle-prod shocked.
 
Well see that's the thing with service restaurants, they don't have to give you min wage. Because you earn tips, they can say "oh, she will earn an average of $3 an hour in tips here, so we really only have to pay $4.50 to make min wage" so that's why people throw a fuss over tipping here. Because employers count on them getting tips. And it's not like they adjust the wage if you don't.

I personally believe that the industry in the US has it totally wrong.
Minimum wage is what the employer HAS TO pay. Tips are what customer give to show appreciation for good service beyond the minimum. That is the way it used to be when I grew up in Italy, with the only difference for seasonal summer part-time workers (mostly students) for whom the tip was the bulk of their income (an incentive to get returning customers over the summer to patronize your table). They do however charge you extra for service.

Here in Japan nobody expects a tip and nobody would accept it (and only few very few places charge for service). And yet the service is impeccable, even in a cheap chain restaurants like Dennys. Bad service here means that it takes them more than 2 minutes to notice you and bring you your menu and water and more than 5 to bring your order. Or that you have to call for your waiter twice. I know, I feel spoiled here as a customer. LOL
 
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Note to diary: why is angry man so concerned with Catalina?
Secondary note: how he make baby?
 
Well see that's the thing with service restaurants, they don't have to give you min wage. Because you earn tips, they can say "oh, she will earn an average of $3 an hour in tips here, so we really only have to pay $4.50 to make min wage" so that's why people throw a fuss over tipping here. Because employers count on them getting tips. And it's not like they adjust the wage if you don't.

Jeebus.

Here, min wage is about $545 a week I think, so about $14 an hour if you're over 21. If you're under, it's 75% of that.
 
Much more of this and the cute, little blue aliens are going to take full notice of the movement behind the rocks.

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Jeebus.

Here, min wage is about $545 a week I think, so about $14 an hour if you're over 21. If you're under, it's 75% of that.

Don't you know that socialism isn't cool? You're not letting the free market provide the many, many $1.50/hr. jobs with accompanying full employment that you could be experiencing.
 
I can say, hand on heart and with complete certainty, that I have never in my life felt so scared, daunted and LOST as I do now.

These changes are happening too quickly for anything approaching comfort, and I have no idea where they are leading. Not only that but my bridges have spontaneously combusted.

This feeling of being lost manifests itself as raving, in-my-head, screaming stress.
 
I personally believe that the industry in the US has it totally wrong.
Minimum wage is what the employer HAS TO pay. Tips are what customer give to show appreciation for good service beyond the minimum. That is the way it used to be when I grew up in Italy, with the only difference for seasonal summer part-time workers (mostly students) for whom the tip was the bulk of their income (an incentive to get returning customers over the summer to patronize your table). They do however charge you extra for service.

Here in Japan nobody expects a tip and nobody would accept it (and only few very few places charge for service). And yet the service is impeccable, even in a cheap chain restaurants like Dennys. Bad service here means that it takes them more than 2 minutes to notice you and bring you your menu and water and more than 5 to bring your order. Or that you have to call for your waiter twice. I know, I feel spoiled here as a customer. LOL


I don't understand how they can pay less than min wage. I aplied at a fabric store when I was 17 and they paid $0.75 under min wage because they were "a small store" which made no sense to me because they were a chain. :rolleyes:

Jeebus.

Here, min wage is about $545 a week I think, so about $14 an hour if you're over 21. If you're under, it's 75% of that.

Each state sets their own min wage, and it can be lower than federal mandate. I've never understood that. In grade school we learn that state law trumps city, and fed law trumps state, but then I grow up and learn that my state laws regaurding employment trump fed. :confused:

In Ohio, it just went up to $7.45 and it's suposed to rize every year for 2 more years to meet inflation. McD's used to pay their workers good money. When I started min wage was $5.35 and we started crew out at $6.50 and kids out at $5.50. When min wage went up to $6.65 a year and a half later, the only ones excited about it were the kids. It used to be no one made min wage, except teenagers, now everyone starts at that, or below in some cases.
 
I don't really go anywhere that you'd tip. Also, national minimum wage is in place here, so tipping is just a bonus in effect. But I only earn national minimum wage and give good service, yet because I work in retail and not waitressing, no-one would ever offer to tip me. Not really a very fair system I reckon.

In the places that I do go where you'd tip, I only tip for good service, and then more in a 'keep the change' manner. Just not something I've ever done.
 
Okay, seriously, no more fabric or trim shopping until I get some serious sewing done!

I mean it.

really.

I do.



ETA: unless there's a really good sale. :eek:
 
It's so nice to know my boss has paid no attention to what I have been doing towards his research project. I haven't felt so demoralized, and so useless as a creative problem solver in a long time. :(
 
It's so nice to know my boss has paid no attention to what I have been doing towards his research project. I haven't felt so demoralized, and so useless as a creative problem solver in a long time. :(

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Mine?

Two laptops and neither one of them work?

WTF....
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I am seriously considering getting my own day collar. One that I would wear just as I wore my other only that it would symbolize that I am my own. Then if I ever choose to accept a collar in the future it can just be worked into the collaring and the PYL can hold onto it until such a time as their collar comes off.

Maybe getting a necklace specifically with that thought in mind and specifically for that particular job would be... helpful... to my mental processing of this. *snort* Two months after the fact and I'm still doing that broken-hearted sideways bullshit on occation.

I'm tired of this game...
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