The Isolated Blurt BDSM Thread

[Mz_Cunningham]

I just had a bit of an ick moment.

The kids are watching the Lion King 2 - it's an incredibly stupid movie, if you haven't seen it - don't.

That said, the main characters are Kiara, who is Simba's daughter, and Kovu, who is Scars son. Scar is Simba's paternal uncle from the first movie, which would make him and Kovu cousins, which would make Kiara and Kovu 1st cousins once removed.

Um, ew. Can anyone say inbreeding?

Can anyone say that both Kimba and Simba are both offspring of Mufasa?

 

[Keroin]

I'm watching footage of the riots in London and all I can think is: This is how it begins.

 

[bhndblueyes88]

I just had a bit of an ick moment.

The kids are watching the Lion King 2 - it's an incredibly stupid movie, if you haven't seen it - don't.

That said, the main characters are Kiara, who is Simba's daughter, and Kovu, who is Scars son. Scar is Simba's paternal uncle from the first movie, which would make him and Kovu cousins, which would make Kiara and Kovu 1st cousins once removed.

Um, ew. Can anyone say inbreeding?

Actually, if you pay attention, Kovu is not actually Scar's son. They don't go too much into his parentage, but you get the impression he was actually just some waif that Scar took a shine to and picked up.

I kind of liked the movie. It IS stupid, but it's stupid in a "made for kids entertainment" way. It has none of the majesty of Lion King.

 

[the captians wench]

I went shopping with my sister-in-law and her two young kids yesterday, 30mo and 7mo. It turned out I was there actually to mind the kids when she went to try on some clothes. Don't get me wrong, I love spending time with them as a group, and I absolutely adore my sister-in-law. She's what I want to be when I grow up. But she left the kids with me.

They screamed and cried, and everyone thought they're mine and I was spazzy completely, because I don't know what to do with crying little humans. I got the glares from other people, and a lot of them. The Glares! Annoyed looks thrown into my direction, because I couldn't get "my" children to calm down.

This experience most certainly does not encourage me to reproduce.

This is exactly why I don't go shoping with my sister in law and the kids. She even will ask if they can all stay with mom while they are up here, and then leave the kids while she goes and catches up with friends, leaving my brother (fresh from deployment usually) stuck because he doesn't want to leave mom with his responcibilities.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

I'm watching footage of the riots in London and all I can think is: This is how it begins.

It's Obama's fault.

So are the cicadas.

 

[the captians wench]

Why does facebook think that when I hit the little x it means to open 10 windows with facebook?

 

[midwestyankee]

It's Obama's fault.

So are the cicadas.

You forgot to blame the Chicago White Sox season on him.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

You forgot to blame the Chicago White Sox season on him.

Oh yes.

Plus, the way Wendy's calls their new fries "New Natural Cut with Sea Salt," and yet, is not it the same "sea water" that also eventually splashes against the shores of Communist dictatorships like Holland and thus a code term for "socialism," forced insideously into our proud American dining fare?

Obama.

 

[intothewoods]

I'm watching footage of the riots in London and all I can think is: This is how it begins.

Me too!

I blame all of you apocalpytic types around here. And you know who you are.

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

Burlesque Barndance Unicycle Pole Dancing

 

[ultramarineblue]

I think the more I learn and read, the less I know what I want or what I identify as. I can't even really put words to the questions I have. I just know that I have questions.

 

[Keroin]

I blame all of you apocalpytic types around here. And you know who you are.

*raises hand*

 

[Keroin]

It's Obama's fault.

So are the cicadas.

Can I blame him for ingrown hairs?

 

[bhndblueyes88]

Can I blame him for ingrown hairs?

God I hate those and I get them in crappy illogical places!!

 

[graceanne]

So, we might have an outside cat. There's a stray that's been hanging around for awhile. Today the kids managed to coax it to the house, so I picked up some food for her. She's really pretty - she's got Maine Coon markings, but she's small boned. Her tale is crooked at the end, so I think she's part siamese, which would explain the small bones. I think she's pregnant, though. Either way, if she's still here in a week or so I'm going to make her an appointment with the vet and get her licensed and all that. She can't come inside, cause we're not allowed to have pets, but something needs to be done about the mice. And she seems to like us, after I fed her she was rubbing up on anything and anyone she could get near and trying to get inside. She's a bit skittish, still, but that'll go away when she knows we won't hurt her. And K is going to build her a cat house - like a dog house, but smaller - and put it under the porch. My oldest named her Luna.

 

[bhndblueyes88]

So, we might have an outside cat. There's a stray that's been hanging around for awhile. Today the kids managed to coax it to the house, so I picked up some food for her. She's really pretty - she's got Maine Coon markings, but she's small boned. Her tale is crooked at the end, so I think she's part siamese, which would explain the small bones. I think she's pregnant, though. Either way, if she's still here in a week or so I'm going to make her an appointment with the vet and get her licensed and all that. She can't come inside, cause we're not allowed to have pets, but something needs to be done about the mice. And she seems to like us, after I fed her she was rubbing up on anything and anyone she could get near and trying to get inside. She's a bit skittish, still, but that'll go away when she knows we won't hurt her. And K is going to build her a cat house - like a dog house, but smaller - and put it under the porch. My oldest named her Luna.

If you do keep her, don't forget to try to keep her regularly dewormed. Outdoor cats (particularly hunters) are the absolute masters at picking up parasites. Of course, if she's skittish, that could be difficult. But if you can, try. And maybe consider microchipping her as well. Since she'll be outdoors all the time, it'd be good to have a permanent ID that can't fall off like a collar. Of course, it all depends how much you want to spend on a stray

btw, if she is pregnant, but is very early, most vets will go ahead and spay a pregnant female cat if the owners want them to.

yay new kitties ^_^ My mom just rescued a kitten that was abandoned by its mother in our back yard. She was going to try to rehome it, but no homes are appearing and she doesn't want to take it to a shelter. so now my parents have another cat!

 

[graceanne]

If you do keep her, don't forget to try to keep her regularly dewormed. Outdoor cats (particularly hunters) are the absolute masters at picking up parasites. Of course, if she's skittish, that could be difficult. But if you can, try.

Yeah, I'll have all that taken care of at the vet, along with that stuff they give them to get rid of fleas.

And maybe consider microchipping her as well. Since she'll be outdoors all the time, it'd be good to have a permanent ID that can't fall off like a collar. Of course, it all depends how much you want to spend on a stray

If she stays around, I'd like get her microchipped - but that really depends on the money situation. I'd probably get her microchipped even if she was an indoor cat, money allowing, but I'm a lot more concerned with shots and spay and the like.

btw, if she is pregnant, but is very early, most vets will go ahead and spay a pregnant female cat if the owners want them to.

I know. We'll cross that bridge when we get there, at this point I'm not even positive she'll be sticking around.

yay new kitties ^_^ My mom just rescued a kitten that was abandoned by its mother in our back yard. She was going to try to rehome it, but no homes are appearing and she doesn't want to take it to a shelter. so now my parents have another cat!

Don't you all have a no-kill shelter? The Portland Humane Society doesn't consider themselves a no-kill shelter cause they put down sick animals and un-adoptable animals, but they NEVER put down a healthy, tame animal no matter how long they're there.

 

[the captians wench]

finally some answers!

Of course this means that the doc is gonna be all pissy today.

 

[bhndblueyes88]

Don't you all have a no-kill shelter? The Portland Humane Society doesn't consider themselves a no-kill shelter cause they put down sick animals and un-adoptable animals, but they NEVER put down a healthy, tame animal no matter how long they're there.

I'm sure we do, but...I actually am not a huge fan of no-kill shelters. I love the idea, but it's just not practical. Here's why:

1) A no-kill shelter will still have to make "the choice", in that once they reach capacity, they need to either make the initial hard choice of refusing an animal, or make the easier choice that becomes harder later on by taking the animal but then struggling to house, feed and care for it. If the latter, all animals then suffer due to decreased resources.

2) Everyone wants to give their animals (for good reasons!) to no kill shelters. Compounding the above problem.

3) This part is conjecture, but I have developed the impression that a lot of people don't go to no-kill shelters first to FIND animals. After all, those animals are "safe", whereas the animals on deathrow at the "pound" are not. Thus, we further compound the first problem. More animals coming in, less animals coming out.

4) In no-kill shelters that solve the overpopulation problems by fostering animals out, you then develop the problems that arise in foster homes. Animals mistreated, in similarly overpopulated homes, animals just not paired with the best home so their attitude worsens, etc...etc...

Overall, no-kill shelters end up having to turn away a lot of animals anyways, or they end up grossly overpopulated, underfunded, with animals getting insufficient care.

Do not get me wrong. I am NOT saying all no-kill shelters are this way. And I fully agree with their mission. From a practical standpoint, though, I'd rather see animals raised by an able family who finds them, until death or until they personally find a good home for them. It puts a bigger burden on the people who find them, but I think that, overall, it distributes the entire burden more evenly so that the shelters (kill and no kill) are better able to do their jobs.


I think that your Portland Humane Society has a pretty good policy by putting down the sick and unadoptable pets. It's much more practical than just WE WON'T EVAR KILL YOUR ANIMAL EVAR!!!

 

[LilyPru]

I'm sure we do, but...I actually am not a huge fan of no-kill shelters. I love the idea, but it's just not practical. Here's why:

1) A no-kill shelter will still have to make "the choice", in that once they reach capacity, they need to either make the initial hard choice of refusing an animal, or make the easier choice that becomes harder later on by taking the animal but then struggling to house, feed and care for it. If the latter, all animals then suffer due to decreased resources.

2) Everyone wants to give their animals (for good reasons!) to no kill shelters. Compounding the above problem.

3) This part is conjecture, but I have developed the impression that a lot of people don't go to no-kill shelters first to FIND animals. After all, those animals are "safe", whereas the animals on deathrow at the "pound" are not. Thus, we further compound the first problem. More animals coming in, less animals coming out.

4) In no-kill shelters that solve the overpopulation problems by fostering animals out, you then develop the problems that arise in foster homes. Animals mistreated, in similarly overpopulated homes, animals just not paired with the best home so their attitude worsens, etc...etc...

Overall, no-kill shelters end up having to turn away a lot of animals anyways, or they end up grossly overpopulated, underfunded, with animals getting insufficient care.

Do not get me wrong. I am NOT saying all no-kill shelters are this way. And I fully agree with their mission. From a practical standpoint, though, I'd rather see animals raised by an able family who finds them, until death or until they personally find a good home for them. It puts a bigger burden on the people who find them, but I think that, overall, it distributes the entire burden more evenly so that the shelters (kill and no kill) are better able to do their jobs.


I think that your Portland Humane Society has a pretty good policy by putting down the sick and unadoptable pets. It's much more practical than just WE WON'T EVAR KILL YOUR ANIMAL EVAR!!!

A "no kill" shelter is by definition just a shelter that place no time limits on an adoptable animals life. They still euthanize the very sick or unadopatble (for behavior issues). A true no kill ever, no matter what the reason rescue is very very rare... like the ranch where some of the Michale Vick dogs are. They are more of a life long safe haven for "bad dogs", but they are not common.

In my experience with friends who foster for a variety of organizations in my city, I've never heard of the bad animal foster care stories you speculate about. There's no financial incentive (as there is with fostering children) and the rescues/ shelter aren't placing animals with crazy hoarders. There are house visits and training. Animal fostering takes a lot of time commitment and money, I really don't think that animals are being mistreated in some large scale way.

The kill shelters, no kill shelters, and various rescue organizations in my city work together frequently to share resources quite effectively. They are all a necessary part of the animal adoption scheme.

Also, I think that the only thing that might dissuade people from using a no kill shelter or rescue is generally that their adoptions cost more. Their overhead is higher, and they are often privately funded (as opposed to say, county shelters). But I don't think that there's a mentality that no-kill dogs are safer, and therefore less in demand.

 

[bhndblueyes88]

A "no kill" shelter is by definition just a shelter that place no time limits on an adoptable animals life. They still euthanize the very sick or unadopatble (for behavior issues). A true no kill ever, no matter what the reason rescue is very very rare... like the ranch where some of the Michale Vick dogs are. They are more of a life long safe haven for "bad dogs", but they are not common.

In my experience with friends who foster for a variety of organizations in my city, I've never heard of the bad animal foster care stories you speculate about. There's no financial incentive (as there is with fostering children) and the rescues/ shelter aren't placing animals with crazy hoarders. There are house visits and training. Animal fostering takes a lot of time commitment and money, I really don't think that animals are being mistreated in some large scale way.

The kill shelters, no kill shelters, and various rescue organizations in my city work together frequently to share resources quite effectively. They are all a necessary part of the animal adoption scheme.

Also, I think that the only thing that might dissuade people from using a no kill shelter or rescue is generally that their adoptions cost more. Their overhead is higher, and they are often privately funded (as opposed to say, county shelters). But I don't think that there's a mentality that no-kill dogs are safer, and therefore less in demand.

eh I'm sure a lot of my opinion is paranoia I just feel better knowing an animal/my animal is going to be in the hands of a chosen individual than thrown into the pool of animals that may/may not be adopted.

Also, I'm a vet student so we do see/hear a bit more of the "bad animal stories" than the "good animal stories". So there's definitely some bias there.

it does make me feel a bit better knowing there are plenty of people out there with positive opinions and outlooks towards shelters

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

I am in a place that Hallmark just doesn't make a card for. So, I will just have to send love and comfort from a distance and hope that it makes it through. There is a human I know now on hospice that gave his life in service of what he believed was important to humanity. Though I don't share his exactly beliefs, I honor the sentiment of his work and hope for him that his departure is one cradled in love, comfort, and gratitude for a life well lived in service of trying to better the human experience.

 

[IrisAlthea]

I am in a place that Hallmark just doesn't make a card for. So, I will just have to send love and comfort from a distance and hope that it makes it through. There is a human I know now on hospice that gave his life in service of what he believed was important to humanity. Though I don't share his exactly beliefs, I honor the sentiment of his work and hope for him that his departure is one cradled in love, comfort, and gratitude for a life well lived in service of trying to better the human experience.

I'm so sorry, C_in_C!
I really like what you said in the last sentence.

 

[the captians wench]

I go back to work tomorrow!

 

[TarevaChine]

I am in a place that Hallmark just doesn't make a card for. So, I will just have to send love and comfort from a distance and hope that it makes it through. There is a human I know now on hospice that gave his life in service of what he believed was important to humanity. Though I don't share his exactly beliefs, I honor the sentiment of his work and hope for him that his departure is one cradled in love, comfort, and gratitude for a life well lived in service of trying to better the human experience.

I go back to work tomorrow!

Glad to hear. I hope this means that you are doing much better. I hope that your first day back is a good one!