The Left's Dark Alliance With Islam

[DeluxAuto]

Most Israeli Jews are from the Middle East. Their ancestors fled to Israel after being ethnically cleansed from the surrounding Muslim states.

If you support social justice for indigenous people, you should speak out about the treatment of ethnic minorities in the Muslim colonial empire, and the Kafala system of African slavery in the modern Arab states.

No one fucking cares because you're a proven liar.

 

[glamorilla]

So muslims didnt start the slave trade?

 

[icanhelp1]

So because there is another genocide in another country.. Then the one taking place in Gaza does not matter!?

I mean, that is what you are saying.

That it is okay to commit crimes against humanity - because another country is also doing so!

Of course the one in Nigeria, the one in Sudan the one in.. you name the next country.. of course they are all insanely inhumane and abhorrent.

But that does not make the one in Gaza any less important.

There's no genocide going on in GAZA.

 

[icanhelp1]

Why the fuck would I bring up Nigeria when we're conversing about Israel, traitor? Fuck off.

So you could talk about a real genocide.

 

[RoryN]

a real genocide.

You're a real racist:

I wonder if it's all those black daddies living by the 4 fs ( find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them ).

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blacks have a higher propensity of violence than all races combined.

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I wouldn’t even think of walking a predominately black neighborhood, wouldn’t end well.

Post in thread 'White Officers in Minority Communities' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/white-officers-in-minority-communities.1525284/post-92435953

 

[LeahWill]

BSG also ignored the "friendly fire" casualties

I am sure she can answer for herself, but as you brought them up nor did she mention those murdered by the IDF who were surrendering under a white flag.

The maths, as she quoted them, do not add up.
End of.

 

[CuriousCat89]

There are zero 'demographics' which prove that being 'of military age' means you are therefore in a military / terrorist organisation.
That is just racist nonsense.

I'd point out that one of the points the anti-Israel crowd makes is that everyone serves in the IDF, therefore they're all targets.

 

[DeluxAuto]

So you could talk about a real genocide.

Oh, so you're one of the MAGAts who is backing Israel? When did you stop chanting, "Jews will not replace us!"

 

[Lazaran]

I am sure she can answer for herself, but as you brought them up nor did she mention those murdered by the IDF who were surrendering under a white flag.

The maths, as she quoted them, do not add up.
End of.

Nah.

“The maths” BSG presented “math” quite well. She was actually being quite generous, imho.

I would also add: responsibility AND accountability for wartime deaths in Gaza is NOT Israel’s burden alone. I would submit that Hamas (and Iran, Russia, China, etc) is MORE culpable for the… "unnatural" deaths of Gazans than the Israelis.

Just sayin’…



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[glamorilla]

Again, Islam isn't the problem. "Islamism" is. The militant, violent, aggressive Twelver ideology and related ideologies that are willing to use force to make the world Islamic. Those people must be defeated.

But your neighbor who just goes to work, goes to teh mosque, prays five times a day facing Mecca is not a threat or a problem.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this. Were not dealing with a couple of decades of leftist indoctrination the way we are in the United States. were dealing with people who have raised their children to hate everything that isn't islam for hundreds of years. more. I wouldn't be surprised if they come out of the womb making slashing motions. the quiet ones are supporting the corruption with their illegal votes. As soon as the loud ones are louder than us the quiet ones are going to slit our throats.

 

[glamorilla]

among other things my family fled cypress like a hundred years ago. you hear stories.

funny if damned muslims didn't steal my families ancestral property I probably would have never been born...

colonizers suck.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

among other things my family fled cypress like a hundred years ago. you hear stories.

funny if damned muslims didn't steal my families ancestral property I probably would have never been born...

colonizers suck.

Says the faggot who hasn't paid his rent in over a year.

You are the curse on your family.

 

[glamorilla]

Says the faggot who hasn't paid his rent in over a year.

You are the curse on your family.

I make a lot of money too. i've just been saving gangbusters.

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[LeahWill]

“The maths” BSG presented “math” quite well.

Oh please let's not get started on the whole differences in British / US spellings, pronunciations and colloquialisms in what, afterall, is called the English language. Hardly a fair fight.

I would also add: responsibility AND accountability for wartime deaths in Gaza is NOT Israel’s burden alone.

And so would I.
Which makes "responsibility and accountability" suddenly being added to the mix all the more odd when the actual subject was...mathematics.
Still, when grasping at straws these things happen.
But please do carry on down that blind alley if you wish. I have any number of past postings on Gaza which I can quote to make you look even more foolish if so.

 

[Lazaran]

Oh please let's not get started on the whole differences in British / US spellings, pronunciations and colloquialisms in what, afterall, is called the English language. Hardly a fair fight.

“The maths” stand as stated (and I still believe BSG was being quite generous).

And so would I.
Which makes "responsibility and accountability" suddenly being added to the mix all the more odd when the actual subject was...mathematics.
Still, when grasping at straws these things happen.
But please do carry on down that blind alley if you wish. I have any number of past postings on Gaza which I can quote to make you look even more foolish if so.

My addition of SHARED responsibility AND accountability (and degree of culpability) is perfectly reasonable when considering “the maths”. It may be SLIGHTLY tangential, but it is DEFINITELY related.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[LeahWill]

The maths” stand as stated (and I still believe BSG was being quite generous).

And they stand because no male of military age killed was innocent.
And the actual, verifiable proof you have to back this up is....

 

[LeahWill]

My addition of SHARED responsibility AND accountability (and degree of culpability) is perfectly reasonable when considering “the maths

Why?
How do the figures change?

Or are you hoping to fall back on your, newly added, safety net of a "degree of culpability" with this one, to try and avoid the unenvable task of defending 'responsibility' and 'accountability' in of themselves?

Obfuscation. Is it ever truly effective..?

 

[Lazaran]

And they stand because no male of military age killed was innocent.
And the actual, verifiable proof you have to back this up is....

The numbers BSG presented stand because they’re a MORE than fair representation of IDF inflicted deaths in Gaza, imho.

 

[LeahWill]

The numbers BSG presented stand because they’re a MORE than fair representation of IDF inflicted deaths in Gaza, imho.

As we both know that was not the question I asked.
Is there a reason you are not answering it?

I do not think I am being unfair here. I have read, and applauded you, on numerous occasions, when you have chided people on here for merely stating random 'beliefs' which they cannot substantiate with evidence to back them up.

I assume you are not now resorting to this yourself?

Hopefully we can agree that mathematics requires evidence to stand as being true. Simply having a fervent belief that 2 eggs plus 3 eggs equals 23 eggs does not mean the calculation stands.

So I ask again where is the evidence the numbers quoted are true, that the number of males killed of military age who were innocent was zero?

 

[Lazaran]

Why?
How do the figures change?

Or are you hoping to fall back on your, newly added, safety net of a "degree of culpability" with this one, to try and avoid the unenvable task of defending 'responsibility' and 'accountability' in of themselves?

Obfuscation. Is it ever truly effective..?

When your "side"(your argument?) is pinning a certain number of specific (innocents) deaths SOLELY on IDF actions, it’s reasonable to challenge that premise, and thus, the numbers. I mean, there was (is?) a war going on, and the actions of Hamas, etc MUST be considered.

Just sayin’…

 

[LeahWill]

When your "side"(your argument?) is pinning a certain number of specific (innocents) deaths SOLELY on IDF actions, it’s reasonable to challenge that premise, and thus, the numbers. I mean, there was (is?) a war going on, and the actions of Hamas, etc MUST be considered.

Just sayin’…

Golly.
Where to even start with this one.

When your "side"(your argument?) is pinning a certain number of specific (innocents) deaths SOLELY on IDF actions,

I haven't 'pinned' any number on the IDF solely.
That has never been my argument.
Copy it if I have....
I actually agreed that with you that others also bore responsibility.
I can copy that post if you require it.
(I would appreciate an apology, but guess that is unlikely)

it’s reasonable to challenge that premise, and thus, the numbers

Given the premise is easily disproved this is clearly nonsense.

 

[Lazaran]

Golly.
Where to even start with this one.



I haven't 'pinned' any number on the IDF solely.

You haven’t - but you are…

That has never been my argument.
Copy it if I have....
I actually agreed that with you that others also bore responsibility.
I can copy that post if you require it.
(I would appreciate an apology, but guess that is unlikely)


Given the premise is easily disproved this is clearly nonsense.

Your logic fails, and BSG’s generous numbers stand. So no apology will be forthcoming from this quarter for stating my opinion which was based on objective facts / truth.

And I get it: Any number of specific (innocents) Gazan deaths presented by a Jew (or an ally) that doesn’t reflect genocide by the Israelis is to be dismissed / discounted; full stop.

You never said that ^ either…



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[LeahWill]

And I get it: Any number of specific (innocents) Gazan deaths presented by a Jew (or an ally) that doesn’t reflect genocide by the Israelis is to be dismissed / discounted; full stop.

You never said that ^ either…

No I certainly didn't.
You did.

Am I to take it that your ability to 'read minds' and 'predict the future' are now also "objective facts" that you wish to be given credence?

But back to mathematics, otherwise known as the topic I originally commented upon, though I would have sympathy with anyone who by now had forgotten that.

Obfuscation eh....

I will copy my earlier message, which you seem less than willing to address, but only because it actually relates to the afore mentioned topic originally under discussion.

As we both know that was not the question I asked.
Is there a reason you are not answering it?

I do not think I am being unfair here. I have read, and applauded you, on numerous occasions, when you have chided people on here for merely stating random 'beliefs' which they cannot substantiate with evidence to back them up.

I assume you are not now resorting to this yourself?

Hopefully we can agree that mathematics requires evidence to stand as being true. Simply having a fervent belief that 2 eggs plus 3 eggs equals 23 eggs does not mean the calculation stands.

So I ask again where is the evidence the numbers quoted are true, that the number of males killed of military age who were innocent was zero?

You're welcome.

 

[LeahWill]

I would also add: responsibility AND accountability for wartime deaths in Gaza is NOT Israel’s burden alone.

And so would I.

When your "side"(your argument?) is pinning a certain number of specific (innocents) deaths SOLELY on IDF actions

I haven't 'pinned' any number on the IDF solely.
That has never been my argument.

You haven’t - but you are…

At least you had the good grace to at least question your own blind assumption.

When your "side"(your argument?)

Initially...

 

[Philthy_Phil]

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Let me know the next time they purge another queer.