The LIT Swingers Club

[ouchfeelsgood]

Actually I still consider myself a newbie to the "lifestyle" - but I'm always eager and ready to learn more!

I have certainly asked myself all those questions about a thousand times already though. It's a slippery slope with friends, but sometimes friends are easier to trust than strangers so it's worth all the sleepless nights wondering if, and if so, when?

Life is a continuing educational experience -- and I'm always willing to both teach and be taught! My wife and I are are not lifestyle swingers, but did dapple in it a number of years ago.

I'd be open to swinging with new acquaintances (who my wife and I have previously met with and trust), but I'd be very hesitant to jump into bed with the wife of a friend because the chance it could ruin the friendship is just too big a risk. It is nice to fantasize about it, though.

 

[MileHighBlackDiamond]

We have booked a trip to Desire Riviera Maya, has anyone else been there?

 

[MilfDirector]

I'd go three times up you in an all night gangbang pussy twice face one.

 

[Sienna62]

Hello Everyone - I'm hoping those of you who have been to swingers clubs or shared a partner at a swinger's party will join in the discussion on this thread because I can tell my husband and I are going to need some advice.

This past Saturday night and Sunday morning my husband and I spent some quality time with two couples friends of ours openly and freely discussing our sexual bucket lists in regards to both this coronavirus pandemic and the fact that we're all starting to get a little older.

We knew that was the agenda for the party in advance because it all started from a conversation my husband and one of his best friends had at work last week.

It turned out to be a wonderful and amazing eye opening (and eye popping! ) experience for all six of us.

It was not the first time my husband and I looked into the swinger's scene here in Las Vegas. But it was the first time we participated in it.

I can tell already that it has not only changed our relationship with our friends I previously felt we already knew, but that it has and will continue to also change our own relationship as husband and wife.

It's all good. We broke down some barriers (especially a few of his) and I expect we will be breaking down a few more in the coming weeks and months.

It turns out that within our circle of friends more of them have been enjoying each other's company quite a bit more that I previously knew. I guess that old saying is true, "You never really know someone until you sleep with them."

(mmmm, I can still feel that first tentative touch of one of my husband's best friends reaching out and caressing me for the first time )

With all that said, I'm hoping that some of you who have more experience with "the lifestyle" will share your own thoughts and experiences sharing your S.O.'s (significant others) with friends and/or strangers. Because I can tell already that this is going to be a bit of a tricky dance but at the same time I am soooooo looking forward to it!

I guess what I'm most interested in learning about is:

- What are some of the unexpected challenges that can arise within an active group of swingers?

and

- What are some of the things to look out for or discuss with your S.O. in order to keep the lines of communication open?

Thank you all in advance for sharing your wisdom! I can't think of a better way to talk about the joys and challenges of swinging and partner swapping than with a group of other people!

Great picture.
Would like an older female hand, manicured, maybe in a sheer blouse , or a lace glove … onto a male body ,

 

[petes478]

They're called fuck-me shoes for a reason sweetie!

That’s right!!! Liz tell it like it is!!!

 

[petes478]

Sometimes naughty wives need to be spanked
by men who aren't their husbands

(not that it will help us "learn our lesson" or change us one damn bit -in fact, imhe it has the exact opposite effect lol)

Oh yeah so true. Wait. “Liz. I’m not your hus…”. Got it. Got it amorcita

 

[MilfDirector]

Agree, but it's also nice if there are a few extra men on hand as the guys generally can't go more than once or twice

Three repeater...

 

[caitiff1969]

My first experience was not a good one. I went with a fb, and we got separated. I was young and not too experienced. Had a woman on a bed call me over. She gave me hockey's on the entire length of my dick. Felt good at the time, but later was extremely painful.

Went with same friend a few more times. She made it up to me.

 

[MilfDirector]

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Agree, but it's also nice if there are a few extra men on hand as the guys generally can't go more than once or twice

I'd go three loads with you over an hours long gangbang.

 

[ouchfeelsgood]

Has anyone heard from Liz? She hasn't posted in almost 3 months.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

No, I haven't, but that kind of absence isn't necessarily unusual around these parts.

Here's hoping she's having the sexual adventures of a lifetime!

 

[Lorelei907]

She’s been a bad girl and she’s tied up at the moment in my basement. No, I mean tied up!

Seriously, I miss her too and the last time I chatted with her she was taking a bit of time off from Lit. I think schools were out and she’s enjoying real time with her family. Hope she gets back on soon.

Don’t worry, I check in on her every once in a while to change her food dish and make sure she hasn’t chewed through the ropes.

 

[investor2020]

Lorelei - you have our best interests at heart (and obviously yours as well . . . I hope your ropes are non-chewable). When you have finally had enuf of her, we look forward to sharing a bit as well.

 

[LizVegas79]

So I'm betting some of you are going to say "I told you so" and I totally don't blame you.

So indeed things have gotten complicated and the slippery slope with friends is getting slipperier and slipperier.

Over the summer a friend moved in with us because she decided she wanted to divorce her husband. This was the same friend my husband and I have been fooling around with from the beginning. The cocktail waitress who works at the same resort we do. The one with the secretly submissive husband that she berated all the time.

I was hesitant but what can you say when a friend asks for a (huge) favor?

At first it was great. A bed of roses as they say (although officially she had her own room). My girls grew to like her (they didn't at first) and she helped out a ton around our house in order to "repay" us.

She gave herself to us at night and my husband and I gladly took advantage of her willingness to please as much as possible.

But having her around all the time started getting complicated pretty much right away. Especially after she quit her job to leverage for more spousal support in her divorce proceedings. When I found out she "accidentally" let my husband catch her riding my sybian I should have kicked her and her tight little booty to the curb right then and there. As some of you might remember, THAT WAS MY FANTASY!!! I so wanted him to find me exhausted and panting on the floor in a puddle of my own multi-orgasmic bliss and throw me on the bed and use my helpless, exhausted, barely able to speak bod for his own hard, rough carnal pleasure. But no. She got to enjoy that pleasure and I had to hear about it over and over again!

The one upside was that my husband wasn't mad about the sybian. He didn't even ask how much it cost - which is what I was afraid of and why I never told him about it.

To be honest there have been a few other positives. It was nice taking her with us when we took the girls to the Johnson Space Lab in Alabama this summer (their dream vaca). Having an extra set of eyes to watch them was nice and she genuinely had almost as much interest as they did in all the science and history and future explorations being planned, etc. Having Kim crawl over from the couch to snuggle with us after the girls went to sleep each night was as naughty as it was frustrating.

But enough is enough. When I'm home, I barely ever have a minute to myself. All she does is complain about her husband or wonder if she should get back together with him. The only reason I was able to jump on here is because she's meeting with her lawyer today. And when I'm not home, all I do is imagine what new way she has come up with to seduce my husband. He of course has been grinning from ear to ear for these past many months and doesn't see anything wrong with our little arrangement.

I on the other hand am thinking of calling in a few favors to make her disappear.

Ahh, the slippery slope of swinging with friends. Go ahead and say "I told you so" - I deserve it.

But I hope the rest of you are having fun!

 

[Lorelei907]

Darn, she escaped. Well, that’s the last time I use chocolate flavored ropes!

 

[marriedpervs]

So I'm betting some of you are going to say "I told you so" and I totally don't blame you.

So indeed things have gotten complicated and the slippery slope with friends is getting slipperier and slipperier.

Over the summer a friend moved in with us because she decided she wanted to divorce her husband. This was the same friend my husband and I have been fooling around with from the beginning. The cocktail waitress who works at the same resort we do. The one with the secretly submissive husband that she berated all the time.

I was hesitant but what can you say when a friend asks for a (huge) favor?

At first it was great. A bed of roses as they say (although officially she had her own room). My girls grew to like her (they didn't at first) and she helped out a ton around our house in order to "repay" us.

She gave herself to us at night and my husband and I gladly took advantage of her willingness to please as much as possible.

But having her around all the time started getting complicated pretty much right away. Especially after she quit her job to leverage for more spousal support in her divorce proceedings. When I found out she "accidentally" let my husband catch her riding my sybian I should have kicked her and her tight little booty to the curb right then and there. As some of you might remember, THAT WAS MY FANTASY!!! I so wanted him to find me exhausted and panting on the floor in a puddle of my own multi-orgasmic bliss and throw me on the bed and use my helpless, exhausted, barely able to speak bod for his own hard, rough carnal pleasure. But no. She got to enjoy that pleasure and I had to hear about it over and over again!

The one upside was that my husband wasn't mad about the sybian. He didn't even ask how much it cost - which is what I was afraid of and why I never told him about it.

To be honest there have been a few other positives. It was nice taking her with us when we took the girls to the Johnson Space Lab in Alabama this summer (their dream vaca). Having an extra set of eyes to watch them was nice and she genuinely had almost as much interest as they did in all the science and history and future explorations being planned, etc. Having Kim crawl over from the couch to snuggle with us after the girls went to sleep each night was as naughty as it was frustrating.

But enough is enough. When I'm home, I barely ever have a minute to myself. All she does is complain about her husband or wonder if she should get back together with him. The only reason I was able to jump on here is because she's meeting with her lawyer today. And when I'm not home, all I do is imagine what new way she has come up with to seduce my husband. He of course has been grinning from ear to ear for these past many months and doesn't see anything wrong with our little arrangement.

I on the other hand am thinking of calling in a few favors to make her disappear.

Ahh, the slippery slope of swinging with friends. Go ahead and say "I told you so" - I deserve it.

But I hope the rest of you are having fun!

Great to hear from you again, Liz. I'm with you. Time for her to move out. I'm here if you need anything or just want to debrief! Literally. Oh yeah, you must tell me how you managed to buy the Sybian as I want one!!

 

[Cobra6813]

So I'm betting some of you are going to say "I told you so" and I totally don't blame you.

So indeed things have gotten complicated and the slippery slope with friends is getting slipperier and slipperier.

Over the summer a friend moved in with us because she decided she wanted to divorce her husband. This was the same friend my husband and I have been fooling around with from the beginning. The cocktail waitress who works at the same resort we do. The one with the secretly submissive husband that she berated all the time.

I was hesitant but what can you say when a friend asks for a (huge) favor?

At first it was great. A bed of roses as they say (although officially she had her own room). My girls grew to like her (they didn't at first) and she helped out a ton around our house in order to "repay" us.

She gave herself to us at night and my husband and I gladly took advantage of her willingness to please as much as possible.

But having her around all the time started getting complicated pretty much right away. Especially after she quit her job to leverage for more spousal support in her divorce proceedings. When I found out she "accidentally" let my husband catch her riding my sybian I should have kicked her and her tight little booty to the curb right then and there. As some of you might remember, THAT WAS MY FANTASY!!! I so wanted him to find me exhausted and panting on the floor in a puddle of my own multi-orgasmic bliss and throw me on the bed and use my helpless, exhausted, barely able to speak bod for his own hard, rough carnal pleasure. But no. She got to enjoy that pleasure and I had to hear about it over and over again!

The one upside was that my husband wasn't mad about the sybian. He didn't even ask how much it cost - which is what I was afraid of and why I never told him about it.

To be honest there have been a few other positives. It was nice taking her with us when we took the girls to the Johnson Space Lab in Alabama this summer (their dream vaca). Having an extra set of eyes to watch them was nice and she genuinely had almost as much interest as they did in all the science and history and future explorations being planned, etc. Having Kim crawl over from the couch to snuggle with us after the girls went to sleep each night was as naughty as it was frustrating.

But enough is enough. When I'm home, I barely ever have a minute to myself. All she does is complain about her husband or wonder if she should get back together with him. The only reason I was able to jump on here is because she's meeting with her lawyer today. And when I'm not home, all I do is imagine what new way she has come up with to seduce my husband. He of course has been grinning from ear to ear for these past many months and doesn't see anything wrong with our little arrangement.

I on the other hand am thinking of calling in a few favors to make her disappear.

Ahh, the slippery slope of swinging with friends. Go ahead and say "I told you so" - I deserve it.

But I hope the rest of you are having fun!

We’re all happy to see you are doing OK Liz

From my past history with swinging, it can be an absolute blast but you end up finding out rather quickly how it can cause a marriage to collapse if the marriage wasn’t sound before diving in to the sexy pool. I am not trying to bash swinging and open relationships- not at all.

We found that out over our time playing that quite a few of our friends ended up divorcing because it put a strain on their primary relationship.. my advise is strong open and honest communication between you and your hubby head off that train wreck. My wife and went thru our rough patches because of playing but in the end it made us a stronger couple

Good luck and I hope you can nicely rid yourself of your house guest soon

 

[peekingone]

So I'm betting some of you are going to say "I told you so" and I totally don't blame you.

So indeed things have gotten complicated and the slippery slope with friends is getting slipperier and slipperier.

Over the summer a friend moved in with us because she decided she wanted to divorce her husband. This was the same friend my husband and I have been fooling around with from the beginning. The cocktail waitress who works at the same resort we do. The one with the secretly submissive husband that she berated all the time.

I was hesitant but what can you say when a friend asks for a (huge) favor?

At first it was great. A bed of roses as they say (although officially she had her own room). My girls grew to like her (they didn't at first) and she helped out a ton around our house in order to "repay" us.

She gave herself to us at night and my husband and I gladly took advantage of her willingness to please as much as possible.

But having her around all the time started getting complicated pretty much right away. Especially after she quit her job to leverage for more spousal support in her divorce proceedings. When I found out she "accidentally" let my husband catch her riding my sybian I should have kicked her and her tight little booty to the curb right then and there. As some of you might remember, THAT WAS MY FANTASY!!! I so wanted him to find me exhausted and panting on the floor in a puddle of my own multi-orgasmic bliss and throw me on the bed and use my helpless, exhausted, barely able to speak bod for his own hard, rough carnal pleasure. But no. She got to enjoy that pleasure and I had to hear about it over and over again!

The one upside was that my husband wasn't mad about the sybian. He didn't even ask how much it cost - which is what I was afraid of and why I never told him about it.

To be honest there have been a few other positives. It was nice taking her with us when we took the girls to the Johnson Space Lab in Alabama this summer (their dream vaca). Having an extra set of eyes to watch them was nice and she genuinely had almost as much interest as they did in all the science and history and future explorations being planned, etc. Having Kim crawl over from the couch to snuggle with us after the girls went to sleep each night was as naughty as it was frustrating.

But enough is enough. When I'm home, I barely ever have a minute to myself. All she does is complain about her husband or wonder if she should get back together with him. The only reason I was able to jump on here is because she's meeting with her lawyer today. And when I'm not home, all I do is imagine what new way she has come up with to seduce my husband. He of course has been grinning from ear to ear for these past many months and doesn't see anything wrong with our little arrangement.

I on the other hand am thinking of calling in a few favors to make her disappear.

Ahh, the slippery slope of swinging with friends. Go ahead and say "I told you so" - I deserve it.

But I hope the rest of you are having fun!

so super to see you post. Sorry you are having a complicated situation now. Never easy. Hope it all works out and we see you soon.

 

[YoWhatsGood]

I on the other hand am thinking of calling in a few favors to make her disappear.

Say no more, I’ll take her off your hands, there’s room in my place and she can stay rent free

 

[J_Bone]

So I'm betting some of you are going to say "I told you so" and I totally don't blame you.

So indeed things have gotten complicated and the slippery slope with friends is getting slipperier and slipperier.

Over the summer a friend moved in with us because she decided she wanted to divorce her husband. This was the same friend my husband and I have been fooling around with from the beginning. The cocktail waitress who works at the same resort we do. The one with the secretly submissive husband that she berated all the time.

I was hesitant but what can you say when a friend asks for a (huge) favor?

At first it was great. A bed of roses as they say (although officially she had her own room). My girls grew to like her (they didn't at first) and she helped out a ton around our house in order to "repay" us.

She gave herself to us at night and my husband and I gladly took advantage of her willingness to please as much as possible.

But having her around all the time started getting complicated pretty much right away. Especially after she quit her job to leverage for more spousal support in her divorce proceedings. When I found out she "accidentally" let my husband catch her riding my sybian I should have kicked her and her tight little booty to the curb right then and there. As some of you might remember, THAT WAS MY FANTASY!!! I so wanted him to find me exhausted and panting on the floor in a puddle of my own multi-orgasmic bliss and throw me on the bed and use my helpless, exhausted, barely able to speak bod for his own hard, rough carnal pleasure. But no. She got to enjoy that pleasure and I had to hear about it over and over again!

The one upside was that my husband wasn't mad about the sybian. He didn't even ask how much it cost - which is what I was afraid of and why I never told him about it.

To be honest there have been a few other positives. It was nice taking her with us when we took the girls to the Johnson Space Lab in Alabama this summer (their dream vaca). Having an extra set of eyes to watch them was nice and she genuinely had almost as much interest as they did in all the science and history and future explorations being planned, etc. Having Kim crawl over from the couch to snuggle with us after the girls went to sleep each night was as naughty as it was frustrating.

But enough is enough. When I'm home, I barely ever have a minute to myself. All she does is complain about her husband or wonder if she should get back together with him. The only reason I was able to jump on here is because she's meeting with her lawyer today. And when I'm not home, all I do is imagine what new way she has come up with to seduce my husband. He of course has been grinning from ear to ear for these past many months and doesn't see anything wrong with our little arrangement.

I on the other hand am thinking of calling in a few favors to make her disappear.

Ahh, the slippery slope of swinging with friends. Go ahead and say "I told you so" - I deserve it.

But I hope the rest of you are having fun!

We went through a nearly identical situation years ago when newly married with my wife's friend (and bridesmaid) who had a bad breakup with her live-in boyfriend and needed a place to stay for a bit. We had an extra bedroom. so we gave it the okay until she was able to find another place. It started off great. We let her watch us a few times (of course she could always hear us!) which then led to various forms of threesomes, then even me with just her one on one with my wife's initial blessing. But as the days turned to weeks and weeks to months, the lines started to blur, if not totally get crossed, and it really started to create tension between the two of them. My wife and I talked and she decided to finally set some boundaries, but it was too late as that ship had already sailed. We finally had to ask her to leave after 2-3 months. They're still friends to this day, but I don't think the chasm that was created during that stint will ever fully close.

Main difference between ours and yours is we were much younger, no kids, and inexperienced with such situations. Looking back, it would have worked better had we set firm boundaries from the outset. However, I'm not sure her friend would have abided by them anyway.

 

[LizVegas79]

Great to hear from you again, Liz. I'm with you. Time for her to move out. I'm here if you need anything or just want to debrief! Literally. Oh yeah, you must tell me how you managed to buy the Sybian as I want one!!

Thanks Dee, I appreciate it. She has finally promised to move out before Valentine's Day. Such drama. I swear she's part Latina! lol

Well, let's see if I can remember ... I saved up a bunch of pennies and then I went to one of my fave sex shops and they ordered one for me and then it came in the mail and hid in the back of my closet for several years until my husband caught her riding it one day when I wasn't home.

Tell Santa you NEED one - trust me, you totally, totally do!

We’re all happy to see you are doing OK Liz

From my past history with swinging, it can be an absolute blast but you end up finding out rather quickly how it can cause a marriage to collapse if the marriage wasn’t sound before diving in to the sexy pool. I am not trying to bash swinging and open relationships- not at all.

We found that out over our time playing that quite a few of our friends ended up divorcing because it put a strain on their primary relationship.. my advise is strong open and honest communication between you and your hubby head off that train wreck. My wife and went thru our rough patches because of playing but in the end it made us a stronger couple

Good luck and I hope you can nicely rid yourself of your house guest soon

Strong, open and honest communication was our Rule #1 when we started down this road and it has been a blessing. I even think, like you, this roller coaster has made us a stronger couple.

But, yeah, I want her gone. She talked us into not "throwing her out" right before the holidays but I want her out by February.

so super to see you post. Sorry you are having a complicated situation now. Never easy. Hope it all works out and we see you soon.

Thanks, P!

Say no more, I’ll take her off your hands, there’s room in my place and she can stay rent free

I'll tell her the minute she gets back from seeing her lawyer this afternoon!

Are there any expectations that come with this wonderful rent free offer? I mean, she has the right to know what she's walking into you know.

Plus, so do I! The more details the better!

Just so you know the train wreck you're inviting into your home, she's not the type of girl who wants to move in with someone who is going to give her her space and privacy. She doesn't do well on her own. She won't respect anyone who's not firm with her. How firm is totally up to you though.

We went through a nearly identical situation years ago when newly married with my wife's friend (and bridesmaid) who had a bad breakup with her live-in boyfriend and needed a place to stay for a bit. We had an extra bedroom. so we gave it the okay until she was able to find another place. It started off great. We let her watch us a few times (of course she could always hear us!) which then led to various forms of threesomes, then even me with just her one on one with my wife's initial blessing. But as the days turned to weeks and weeks to months, the lines started to blur, if not totally get crossed, and it really started to create tension between the two of them. My wife and I talked and she decided to finally set some boundaries, but it was too late as that ship had already sailed. We finally had to ask her to leave after 2-3 months. They're still friends to this day, but I don't think the chasm that was created during that stint will ever fully close.

Main difference between ours and yours is we were much younger, no kids, and inexperienced with such situations. Looking back, it would have worked better had we set firm boundaries from the outset. However, I'm not sure her friend would have abided by them anyway.

Wow, that sounds as crazy as our situation JBone! I'm so glad to hear you and your wife got through it and that you're still friends with her. How long ago was it if you don't mind me asking. Did the three of you ever get together for fun and games after she moved out?

I hope Kim and I can remain friends. But when I get mad, I get really mad. And when I get fed up with someone, it's usually a death sentence for any hope of a friendship lasting. Right now I'm not feeling crazy emotional about it, but probably like you and your wife, I've definitely struggled with this sitch in private and in front of the both of them. Let's just say some shit got broken and leave it at that lol

 

[LizVegas79]

Someone sent me this. It is something I hope to be able to say to my husband some day.

https://www.sex.com/pin/58576089-best/

So far, we're only up to the point where he acknowledges that I've been with another man.

He's even willing to let me show him the evidence now, too.

But then he goes straight to reclaiming me. There's no humiliation. Not sure there ever will be either and ... I'm actually okay with that.

(now that doesn't mean I haven't had the pleasure of humiliating other men - I have and I have! )

 

[J_Bone]

Wow, that sounds as crazy as our situation JBone! I'm so glad to hear you and your wife got through it and that you're still friends with her. How long ago was it if you don't mind me asking. Did the three of you ever get together for fun and games after she moved out?

I hope Kim and I can remain friends. But when I get mad, I get really mad. And when I get fed up with someone, it's usually a death sentence for any hope of a friendship lasting. Right now I'm not feeling crazy emotional about it, but probably like you and your wife, I've definitely struggled with this sitch in private and in front of the both of them. Let's just say some shit got broken and leave it at that lol

Thanks, Liz! It was like 18 years ago or so. And we did get together another time or two, but more by happenstance, including once at a destination wedding we all attended. And she was there with a new beau who was not involved, which was tricky to say the least. But you're right, it's good that they're still friends. Could have turned out worse for sure.

Looking back, the whole situation was fraught with potential pitfalls and missteps. Not going to go into full detail here, but happy to discuss via PM if you like just since it seems so similar to your situation, which I hope ends up going well for y'all.

 

[ShaneoD]

Someone sent me this. It is something I hope to be able to say to my husband some day.

https://www.sex.com/pin/58576089-best/

So far, we're only up to the point where he acknowledges that I've been with another man.

He's even willing to let me show him the evidence now, too.

But then he goes straight to reclaiming me. There's no humiliation. Not sure there ever will be either and ... I'm actually okay with that.

(now that doesn't mean I haven't had the pleasure of humiliating other men - I have and I have! )

I saw this way to late to ask what that creative mind has thought of in the past.

 

[YoWhatsGood]

I'll tell her the minute she gets back from seeing her lawyer this afternoon!

Are there any expectations that come with this wonderful rent free offer? I mean, she has the right to know what she's walking into you know.

Plus, so do I! The more details the better!

Just so you know the train wreck you're inviting into your home, she's not the type of girl who wants to move in with someone who is going to give her her space and privacy. She doesn't do well on her own. She won't respect anyone who's not firm with her. How firm is totally up to you though.

She sounds perfect (hot according to you, likes to flirt with the head of the household, randomly rides a sybian) and she sounds like she needs a new guy in her life, I’ll date her for a while (3 weeks max ). Tell her you found a new guy for her, you can make her a profile on here to give her something to do, she’ll fit right in