The Royal Family

[Guest]

A virgin marriage? Highly unlikely. Why do you suppose that even physical sign of virginity is removed by being of the 'horsey' set before any attempt is made at making a bride 'comfortable' for her husband?

Gauche, that's a brilliant remark. Makes sense. What a great excuse for a bride. The upperclass thinks of everything .

Perdita

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Ok, first thing, I know there are several British people here and I do not want to offend anyone, it is all just my American opinion so please don't take anything personally.
I was watching that show on the Diana tapes and it sorta pissed me off. I found myself not caring about her because she knew what she was getting into. She admits it very clearly. At times it just sounded like a bunch of whining. I'm sure that she was a good person, she certainly came off that way and I'm sorry that she met such an early demise. My problem is that I feel like they are telling me I'm supposed to feel sorry for her because of the life she led. I don't. She chose it. People don't feel sorry for me when I make a decision and it turns out bad.
Also, since I'm on the subject, I really gotta know, why do we, as Americans, give a shit about the royal family? I guess I can see why the British do, although I don't understand it. But why do we? Why are we always hearing about their exploits? I find it difficult to care about a group of people who live in luxury in another country.
I'm done ranting now. I certainly hope I did not offend anyone because I know that people do care about them and especially Diana. That show just sorta ticked me off.

In general I don't care about the british royals. The only time in my life I have ever paid them any mind was when Di was alive and especially when she was younger. She had a very quiet beauty that was at once demure and appealing. She was the second of the only two famous people I ever had a crsuh on.

-Colly

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: The Royal Family

She was the second of the only two famous people I ever had a crsuh on.

Colleeeeeeeeeee, you must tell the other. Pleeeeeeeeeze? P.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Re: Re: Re: The Royal Family

Colleeeeeeeeeee, you must tell the other. Pleeeeeeeeeze? P.

I will tell you the first, but will do so in PM. I was not afraid to admit I liked the Captain and Tennel, but this I won't admit inpublic

-Colly

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Colly. I'll keep your secret. P.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Thanks, Colly. I'll keep your secret. P.

-Colly

 

[Somme]

Bring back the days when a King's Mistress could tell an angry crowd "Peace, dear people - I am the Protestant Whore" and get an honour guard of rioters.

Og

Oi've gaht a taisty orange fer thee, Oggs.......

 

[Boxlicker101]

Originally posted by gauchecritic
A virgin marriage? Highly unlikely. Why do you suppose that even physical sign of virginity is removed by being of the 'horsey' set before any attempt is made at making a bride 'comfortable' for her husband?
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Gauche, that's a brilliant remark. Makes sense. What a great excuse for a bride. The upperclass thinks of everything .

Perdita


Actually, all brides, if their grooms are so churlish that they need one, have an excuse. "I was riding my bicycle on a bumpy road one day, and suddenly I felt a sharp pain 'down there' and I started to bleed."

 

[oggbashan]

I'm curious about your liberal use of Capitals, there, og, particularly "King's Mistress". Are you adhering to some anachronistic rules of etiquette?

My Rules of Etiquette - see much earlier thread - are still valid.

At the time referred to "King's Mistress" was an accepted and dishonourable title rather better than Gentleman of the Bedchamber. In the 21st century the role of 'mistress' has been devalued.

Og

 

[sanchopanza]

I predict "private wench" will be the new "mistress". Don't ask why I just got a feeling.

 

[SlickTony]

Would Hamlet have been a success if he'd been the Farmer of Denmark?

No, he'd have had to wait several hundred years, make his way to the plains states of America, and then Garrison Keillor could have written about him.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I predict "private wench" will be the new "mistress". Don't ask why I just got a feeling.

I think "girl friend" is the new "mistress", at least to a married person.

 

[Guest]

I prefer Mucky Bessom

Perdita

 

[Boxlicker101]

I prefer Mucky Bessom

Perdita

I never heard or read that expression, Dita. I don't think it would fly in the UK where "mucky" means klutzy or fumble-fingered.

 

[gauchecritic]

I never heard or read that expression, Dita. I don't think it would fly in the UK where "mucky" means klutzy or fumble-fingered.

Pure Mode <on>:

In the light of that explicit statement I would be obliged if you could quote substantive references (dictionarial, coloquial and/or researchable) as most authorities iirc and AFIK define the term mucky as a synonym for dirty, ie unclean. As in the Cilla Black recording from 1969 "Liverpool Lullaby" (B side to "conversations") which famously starts with the line "Oh you are a mucky kid, mucky as a dustbin lid."

Pure Mode <off>

Gauche

 

[oggbashan]

Mucky

Oxford English Dictionary: (quotations omitted)

Mucky - adjective
1. Dirty, filthy, muddy. Not in polite use.
Of the weather: 'Dirty'; 'foul'; 'thick'.
Applied to money, as 'filthy lucre'; also to a miserly person.
2. Consisting of : resembling muck.

Mucky - verb trans
To make mucky.

Og

 

[Guest]

Eyup, Gauche and Ogg

Muchas gracias (no lisp).

mucky-like libidinally,

Perdita

p.s. pure-mode: LOL

 

[raphy]

I never heard or read that expression, Dita. I don't think it would fly in the UK where "mucky" means klutzy or fumble-fingered.

And exactly where in the UK does it mean that?

Raph, lived in South Wales, London, the Cotswolds and the East Midlands and never heard of that.

 

[SadieRose]

I'm in the grim north and it doesn't mean "klutzy" up here either.

Back to Diana-kins for a mome. Just to cross over to another post where ppl were discussing the public's penchant for believing that characters truly exist and are a meaningful part of their lives. Diana fulfils that role for many people across the world. They like to share in her suffering because to them her life is like some tragic movie that they can all, to some extent, take a part in.

Yes, she was a real person, but none of the people (with the possible exception of her family and friends) who mourn her even knew very much about her. I wonder if they would have felt the same outpourings of grief if that had been the case.

In the UK the Monarchy is a costly white elephant that we all have to pay for the upkeep of. Just why so many people should mourn the loss of one more sponger, no matter how much charitable good she did, is beyond me. Her wardrobe allowance alone could have fed a small country for a year!



Sadie

 

[Guest]

Her wardrobe allowance alone could have fed a small country for a year!

Her wardrobe?! What about the queen's hats, not to mention her mum's.

Perdita

 

[SadieRose]

Her wardrobe?! What about the queen's hats, not to mention her mum's.

Perdita

'Zactly!

It's all very well to prattle on about how terrible it must be to be poor and deprived when they visit the inner cities. We ought to be incensed that they have the bare faced cheek to turn up in their flash cars and designer gear in the first place.

"Give us your flash!" the crowds should call out in unison, throwing them to the floor and stripping them of their wealth before marching on the smug, self-satisfied bastards in Parliament to remind them that they're not so well protected after all...

*slap*
Umm... sorry, got carried away there. Going for food now.

Luv U all

 

[gauchecritic]

Her wardrobe?! What about the queen's hats, not to mention her mum's.

Perdita

You obviously didn't see the documentary about HM's clothes. Most of the time (along with The Princess Royal) they have a large percentage of their formal attire 're-tailored' year after year.

As I understand it, it is common practice amongst 'nobility' in having a wardrobe large enough that by the time they get back to the beginning, only those with elephant memories will realise that a 'dress' has been worn over several years. The wardrobes don't expand they are merely large and extremely long lasting.

Very few Royals wear one season designer gear.

I'm ambivalent about the validity of Royals, but you just couldn't pay me enough to do their job. (unlike sportspeople or actors)

Gauche

 

[SlickTony]

As I understand it, it is common practice amongst 'nobility' in having a wardrobe large enough that by the time they get back to the beginning, only those with elephant memories will realise that a 'dress' has been worn over several years. The wardrobes don't expand ...

An eminently sensible plan. I myself have two evening outfits, which I have alternated at my husband's company Christmas parties for the last four or five years. i figure that nobody there will have an elephant memory there, either; then there's the fact that my husband has changed divisions at least three times...

 

[Guest]

Not to boast but I can't recall the last time I shopped for something other than an alluring bra. I wear the same outfits to work every week, one item two days in a row at times cos it's comfortable and I like it.

Interesting post, Gauche; I like those type of docs.

Perdita

 

[gothgodess]

You obviously didn't see the documentary about HM's clothes. Most of the time (along with The Princess Royal) they have a large percentage of their formal attire 're-tailored' year after year.

As I understand it, it is common practice amongst 'nobility' in having a wardrobe large enough that by the time they get back to the beginning, only those with elephant memories will realise that a 'dress' has been worn over several years. The wardrobes don't expand they are merely large and extremely long lasting.

Very few Royals wear one season designer gear.

I'm ambivalent about the validity of Royals, but you just couldn't pay me enough to do their job. (unlike sportspeople or actors)

Gauche

I am having trouble feeling sorry for people who spend more on a pair of shoes than I earn in a month.
Princess Diana was in my opinion both incredibly clever and stupid.
She was clever enough to get people to dance to her tune and belive she was the victim she played at being but she was stupid enough to think that they would leave her alone when she wanted. She set the frenzie going and then it destroyed her.
The royals had a perpose but I think they are now outdated and its time we found something better to do with our money than keep a whole family tree. If you must Keep the Queen and her Children but thats it. They don't need 6 different houses and they certainly don't need all the pomp and chinz that goes with it.

I am now going for a lie down.
I apologize to those of you who disagree with me if i have ofended you but this is my opinion and until someone can show me otherwise it will remain my opinion.