The Wind Industry Just Took A Massive Hit, I hope It's Just The Beginning

[dmallord]

The usual suspects, all tilting at windmills.

Lol

And you grin without so much as a gnat's ass worth of knowledge to contribute to the discussion... as usual.

 

[dmallord]

One is tempted to suspect RG of opposing wind power just because Trump does -- no other reason.

And Trump does because 1) he's in the pocket of Big Oil and 2) doesn't like windmills near his golf courses -- no other reason.

Windmills can't be all bad. The governor of Texas is putting them up to augment his failed electrical grid independence platform. Seems Texans don't like freezing to death because there wasn't enough electricity to keep homes warm except for the guy, Cancun Cruz, who flew his family south of the border for a warm vacation while his constituents froze their asses off.

 

[Politruk]

Windmills can't be all bad. The governor of Texas is putting them up to augment his failed electrical grid independence platform. Seems Texans don't like freezing to death because there wasn't enough electricity to keep homes warm except for the guy, Cancun Cruz, who flew his family south of the border for a warm vacation while his constituents froze their asses off.

In fairness to Cruz, he's a Senator, not the Governor. There was nothing he could do to help by staying home.

 

[dmallord]

In fairness to Cruz, he's a Senator, not the Governor. There was nothing he could do to help by staying home.

Could you tell that to those who voted for him? When he realized the impact of his actions, he jumped right back on the plane and returned to help pass out relief items. It's called concern for your constituents.

So, there is no 'in fairness' when your constituents are cold and dying. To this day he remains an asshole over his poor decision. To top it off, as I now recall, he said something about his kids begging him to go, and he couldn't let them down." Lovely dad, right?

 

[Politruk]

Fossil fuels and nuclear are better options.

Why?

 

[Rightguide]

The current huge windmills are placed mostly in areas where there is nothing else to see for many miles. There is still plenty of skyline around them, much more than we can see in any city. On my long drives there, I was glad to see anything at all besides road and flat empty land.

They will eventually be demolished as costing more energy than they produce, but the smaller windmills that many farmers built for direct personal use before the national electric grid will probably return.

In the eastern woodlands, windmills have been placed on cropland that was previously forest. Letting some forests regrow will be necessary to fuel our woodburning stoves without fossil fuels.

They're ugly and a blight.

 

[ll74]

I don't think they're ugly. I think this is ugly. Also think it's far more deadly to humans on multiple downstream levels

 

[Chernosoth]

They're ugly and a blight.

Those are too densely located. Crowding them together would be more convenient in land cost, but one tower blocking the next mill's wind is another energy cost, in addition to the energy lost as heat on many miles of low conductance steel wires from remote locations to cities.

Without government subsidies and cheap fossil fuel energy, windmill engineering will probably revert to classic low tech designs.

 

[Politruk]

Fossil fuels and nuclear are better options.

Why?

 

[AlexBailey]

I tried to get the actual court decision but so far no luck. It may explain the court's thinking and the opposing arguments in detail. Even the U.S. Attorney didn't fully explain the issue. Here is a bit more detail;
https://osagenews.org/historic-win-judge-orders-enel-to-remove-turbines-by-december-2025/

Here is a discussion that might help to flesh this case out: https://weatherguardwind.com/enel-vs-the-osage-nation-an-explanation-w-doug-sandridge/?

You're welcome.

If you could critically read and actually understand the article you linked you would understand the situation far better than you have explained the situation.

 

[Politruk]

Fossil fuels and nuclear are better options.

Why?