Thought I'd try again (one last time)

[dave's thing]

Well I used to live on Baffin Island and used to go out on hunts. The only time I actually saw an igloo was one time when a storm came up quite quickly and we couldn't make it back to the base camp and out of the 25-30 native people on the hunt only 3 or 4 knew what they were doing when it came to building them. All of the base camps were actually caves or permanent cabins and we used tents for the over flow.

So I dunno I hear that on the other side of the pole they are more numerous but here in Canada very rare. But of course the Montreal ice festival has sorta debunked that a little

 

[Cinner]

Isn't this great? In the sweltering heat of summer we're talking about igloos...

To spur another line of argument though... Is it a bad thing that people think that they'll see igloos in Canada? Of course not in downtown Toronto, but aren't the iconic images of our countries often not based on current realities? They are symbols of past values that are perhaps still cherished even though the world has rendered them obsolete... They are like our flags etc. rallying points for us to see ourselves as belonging here or there... An igloo may not be a maple leaf but it reminds me of your diverse culture and that your history is older than the European settlement. What does it say to you?

 

[Brave Maximus]

I know it may sound a bit cynical... but I find that things like that are a little annoying...

It's a bit like "Russians only drink Vodka" or "Japan is ultra Tech or full of shrines and little guys in orange robes"

If you come to a country expecting that sort of mentality or to see those "national identities" then you're going to be dissapointed.

I find that they're stereo types put on by other people, other countries, with out any real insight as to the identity of that country.
Sorry, I've been dealing with a friend who's been... a little stereotypical of Canada and I've had to correct him and his history... quite a bit...


Though, about some icons... I think Classified said it best about Canada

"Our National mascots the damn beaver.... Oh Canada, we love our beaver" - Oh..... Canada - Classified


And.....

Just a bit of a bump for late tonight

 

[Jemgirl01]

Isn't this great? In the sweltering heat of summer we're talking about igloos...

To spur another line of argument though... Is it a bad thing that people think that they'll see igloos in Canada? Of course not in downtown Toronto, but aren't the iconic images of our countries often not based on current realities? They are symbols of past values that are perhaps still cherished even though the world has rendered them obsolete... They are like our flags etc. rallying points for us to see ourselves as belonging here or there... An igloo may not be a maple leaf but it reminds me of your diverse culture and that your history is older than the European settlement. What does it say to you?

I almost made it to bed, but I saw this and decided to say something now that Maximus has. (I'm not following you)

I use to have some of those very simple notions of places, but most of them are gone now. I read, I watch history shows, I watch modern development for countries other than my own. I watch BBC news. By keeping current, I have placed those simple ideas so far back in mind that I don't remember much of them now.

Also, seeing a country through the eyes of the people that live there helps in seeing these places in a bit more normal light. So watching a few foreign films help with that. But most people don't because they don't want to read. *shakes head*

 

[galaxybounce]

Well personally i dont actually associate igloos with canada but with the inuit. Always have. Pretty sure its the same for everyone in ireland too

 

[LickYourNips]

Well personally i dont actually associate igloos with canada but with the inuit. Always have. Pretty sure its the same for everyone in ireland too

So just to be clear... your views are the views of all of Ireland?

 

[galaxybounce]

So just to be clear... your views are the views of all of Ireland?

You misunderstand. I'm basing that on the education system in which i was thought and that'd be pretty uniform across the country. For people my age at the very least

 

[LickYourNips]

You misunderstand. I'm basing that on the education system in which i was thought and that'd be pretty uniform across the country. For people my age at the very least

I didn't misunderstand... I got it. Just found your statement funny as if EVERYONE in Ireland learned and think exactly as you do on such a random thing as the Inuits.

I have some Irish friends... and unless that fact is printed at the bottom of a glass of Guiness they would have no idea what an Inuit was let alone that they live in Igloos. lol

 

[Cinner]

I didn't misunderstand... I got it. Just found your statement funny as if EVERYONE in Ireland learned and think exactly as you do on such a random thing as the Inuits.

I have some Irish friends... and unless that fact is printed at the bottom of a glass of Guiness they would have no idea what an Inuit was let alone that they live in Igloos. lol

Touche...

 

[Cinner]

one last time eh? me? i gave up on these ads or any others anywhere else.

How sad. I hope you don't really mean this.

 

[Brave Maximus]

Good morning everyone

What's on everyone's mind?

I, unfortunatly, am not tired, when I should be passing out...


So, here I sit (tiddly-pum.... ah good old Pooh)

 

[Jemgirl01]

Who are you expecting to stop by next?

I feel like throwing a question out there to get that going, but what to ask?

Who are here just looking for a score or is a writer who looked beyond the help forums?

There, I came up with one.

I'm the latter, but finding the first wouldn't be bad.

 

[Brave Maximus]

I'm actually just here to chat

I like meeting new people and finding interestin things to talk about

The fact that, by coming to this forum, you pretty much say you're somewhat comfortable with sexuality, makes it a bit easier to flirt and have fun with, inbetween the serious conversations....

I'd love to have some deep, serious conversations... but I tend to scare people off at that point ;_;

 

[Jemgirl01]

ahahah...

I hear your bark but I don't feel any bites.

 

[Brave Maximus]

LMAO....

Takes a lot to get me to bite

But, I mean, anything from the Quantum to discussions about the socio-economic crisis, both current and the much larger one on the horizon, combined with societies responsiblity to itself, and just how much of a responsibility rests on the shoulders of the individual and how much is actually the responsiblity of the society as a whole...

Then of course, there's the good old Nature Vs Nurture question, one which I haven't actually chosen a side to - I can see too many points for both sides

Or, Are there such things as ghosts?

Or.....

Yeah......

 

[Jemgirl01]

Mmumm

Ghosts?... I lean more to yes than no.

"Nature Vs Nurture question" It's a bit of both, but it also depends how much the person can be influenced to begin with. It not that much then it will be nature, if alot, then it's nurture, if they are 50/50 they will come out 50/50.

I think it does responsibility rests on the shoulders of the individual, that way as a whole things will happen. But it's what part that individual will play is the question you have to ask after they stop asking others to do something.

 

[Brave Maximus]

Ghosts?... I lean more to yes than no.

"Nature Vs Nurture question" It's a bit of both, but it also depends how much the person can be influenced to begin with. It not that much then it will be nature, if alot, then it's nurture, if they are 50/50 they will come out 50/59.

I think it does responsibility rests on the shoulders of the individual, that way as a whole things will happen. But it's what part that individual will play is the question you have to ask after they stop asking others to do something.

I'm going to leave this one for a bit, see if anyone else pipes in

But... interesting, though I disagree with a few points...

 

[Brave Maximus]

shameless bump, since I would love for someone to talk to

 

[Jemgirl01]

You are so late...

I'm making myself give up on the story I'm reading to go to bed.

 

[Cinner]

I'm making myself give up on the story I'm reading to go to bed.

Hello again Jem... Life good? Hello everyone! Just been through the forum to see what I've missed...

Ghosts: I do believe that there are non-human, non-animal sentient beings that share this space with us. I cannot claim to communicate with them regularly but I believe that I have run into a couple of them. I think I regard ghosts in the way that I view angels... they appear for a purpose of their own, and sometimes we get in the way. If their intentions are good then we benefit - we avoid being hurt in some way; if they're not good...hmmmm


Nature vs. Nurture: I don't think that I can add anything more interesting than the hackneyed view that nature sets the baseline or the boundaries of our capacities and nurture is what will help us to maximise our potential or approach those boundaries if we're lucky enough to have the right set of circumstances for that. There was something last week on BBC's Outlook I think, about a social researcher who could have been one of his own subjects if his circumstances were only a little different. In fact, he discovered that he had several killers among his ancestors so it wasn't too far a stretch to think that he could have gone down that road himself. Indeed, his wife and mother say that they saw sociopathic tendencies in him while having to deal with him but he never took it far enough to cause anyone any harm or to cause them to abandon him. He certainly attributed the fact that he was conducting the interviews for his study rather than being interviewed to the type of stimulation that his parents gave him.


The responsibility of the invividual viz that of the society... Actually the most interesting of the topics raised. Undoubtedly, the society has a responsibility to each individual if it wants each of us to contribute to the healthy functioning of the whole. However, if we were to sit and wait for that then we'd never achieve anything useful personally because the society will, of necessity, mold us into clones designed to serve it and do nothing else. This is because it is cheapest to do so - the cloning - and if we regard the society as an organic entity in it's own right it will do this in order to survive.

Taking ourselves in hand individually serves the function of moving the society beyond surviving toward actual thriving and progress. I know that large social movements can induce revolutionary change but often these arose around a few gifted individuals (leaders) who wanted to effect change within the society. It is to reward individual innovation within the society that we have things like patents and copyright laws, merit based pay schemes, A-Lists, grant funding, Nobel Prizes and the like. This is why we encourage people to go for higher education and reward them when they do. We recognise, even if we don't want to admit it readily, that it is these tall poppies who eventually hold the destiny of the society in their hands.


The larger socioeconomic crisis on the horizon... That intrigued me...I hadn't thought beyond this one... I'll have to think about that and get back to you... I'll be back to see what you have to say Maximus...

 

[Jemgirl01]

Life is Ok...

That is far more than I could have come up with at that time of the day. (if ever)

The nature vs. nurture example that you have would lean to where nature was almost strong enough to cause other people harm, but it was due to how he was raised that kept it from going too far.

I can't go into the noble prize part, because I feel two things, one you went far over my head and/or you went a little off track or I forgot what the original question was.

You've added angels into the ghost debate. I guess if there are ghosts there are the angels and the demons too. But I'm sure that someone will say that 'demons' are just fallen angles.

 

[Cinner]

New topic: How authentic is it for a sexually submissive woman to claim to be a feminist?

 

[Jemgirl01]

Sexually submissive how?

 

[Cinner]

...Not sure I understand your question Jem... The tone of the thread so far wouldn't lend itself to me being explicit about my particular kinks... A bump nevertheless...

 

[teknight]

New topic: How authentic is it for a sexually submissive woman to claim to be a feminist?

I feel a sudden and inexplainable surge to ask:

Why should the two be at odds with one another? 'There are some that would argue that the subs are the ones in control....