Tonight, Pennsylvania will tell us everything re: Republicans & Trump

[BotanyBoy]

And you get an abortion!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/y8Mz1yj13s3kI/giphy.gif

 

[richard_daily]

And, if you ever personally need to have an abortion, I respect and believe in your right to do so. If you support legal abortions, then there is no light between you and Lamb.

How many Republicans Roe v Wade?

I don't agree. Lamb believes that abortions are wrong, and in doing so helps shame women for having them, regardless of their legality.

I don't.

 

[Antryg_Windrose]

Page 9!

Page 3 for me, but I'm set at 100 per page so I can skip the horseshit faster.

 

[Rightguide]

Look, all men are “personally against” abortions, with exceptions for some trans men, they can’t have one! He believes abortions should be legal, end of story.

You don't know enough to speak for "all men." If you mean the limited intellects you've managed to corner in your lifetime, just say so.

 

[RoryN]

Fact:

If these election results didn't worry GB Republicans, this thread would have had 30 responses.

We're at 230.

Suck it.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

THIS is where you make your mistake. I can't seem to get you to see that you're projecting something that isn't there and trying to use that as THE REASON Lamb won.

You don't KNOW that Lamb won because XYZ. That's a complete projection on your part. I'm telling you to go look at the results and analyze them from a neutral basis.

But no, you'd rather crow that the D's won because Trump.

I choose to look at it this way: 1 down and 23 to go and then Democrats will control the House.

Given where Mueller is heading, and expected timing of his work ending after the mid-terms, impeachment is a word I am going to start throwing around.

 

[Hypoxia]

I choose to look at it this way: 1 down and 23 to go and then Democrats will control the House.

Given where Mueller is heading, and expected timing of his work ending after the mid-terms, impeachment is a word I am going to start throwing around.

I doubt the Dum leadership will go for a POTUS impeachment unless they can get VP Pence too. Pence is nutz but knows how to play the gov't game; he's more toxic than Tromp. If both are impeached (indicted), tried, convicted, and removed, the presidency will go to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Or will it be Senate President Pro Tempore Bernie Sanders? I forget the order and I'm too lazy to search.

Have heads exploded yet?

 

[domroger]

I just think it's hilarious that anyone thinks that Pa is "a landslide" or "a blue wave tsunami".

Last I heard the difference was .28% .28% is not a "win" it's a rounding error.

Lamb won in a traditionally Republican district. The question is; why? The answer lies in the physical differences between Lamb and Saccone and not their political stances. Saccone is older, fat, and looks like he's straight out of the 1960's. Lamb is young, vibrant, energetic, photogenic.

This wasn't a Tsunami. It was a beauty contest and Lamb won. Barely. The one thing this race showed is that the GOP needs to think about is the same thing the Dem's need to think about; namely getting better candidates on the ballot. The old skool is out of favor with the modern American voter.

20 % swing not a landside ?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Fine. Just taking this race without any consideration of past voting history, we can say:

--the R attempt to run on "Tax Cuts" failed miserably. That's all they have to run on. They had 70% of the ads about the Great tax cuts, which dwindled down to 2%. At that point, the Rs resorted to what they always do: attacking and smearing the other candidate and trying to play on the "culture wars" like saying Lamb "hates God". It didn't work.

--Lamb ran on positive issues like Healthcare (#1 issue for voters), SS, Medicare, ANTI-TAX GIVEAWAY, stressing things like "common ground" and not going negative.

Democrats had a better message, strategy and candidate, period.

Considering that the "Tax Cut" is Trump's one big selling point, you could say its failure is a rejection of the Trump Administration and of the Republican Congress. Not looking good. They put these people in office hoping for radical changes. They're not liking what they got. People STILL want Healthcare.

Focus groups unanimously disparaged Trump, even people who still support him "because he's a Republican." He's an embarrassment and they admit it. They ALL said they liked Lamb because he was a "good" person (they said the same thing about Doug Jones.) Some still voted Trump not on the basis of liking Trump, but just not wanting Dem votes in Congress.

Trump's "personality" problems are making voters cleave towards "decent" candidates even if they are Dems. He's a liability for anyone other than diehard Republicans.

LOL

Trump got into office making all these promises to the "working class" and "the forgotten man" and all they have to bring back to them is: an extra buck fiddy in your paycheck every week. Paul Ryan seems to think that's going to be enough to sweep them to victory in November. Every indication is that it's a big failure.

You can't spin this race into a blue tidal wave in November. You can't even do it when this race is coupled with the other D wins in other districts lately without looking at the candidates, the issues facing the voters in those unique districts, and other variables like the economy, jobs, and public satisfaction.

All you're doing is saying blue team win, blue team win, blue team win... look!, the blue team is the better team. Meanwhile the red team still has several other races to run with different competitors over completely different terrain. The blue team may not make the grade in those contests and no one will know until it's finally over.

But crow on. Breathing that deep is prolly good for your lungs anyway.

 

[someoneyouknow]

I doubt the Dum leadership will go for a POTUS impeachment unless they can get VP Pence too. Pence is nutz but knows how to play the gov't game; he's more toxic than Tromp. If both are impeached (indicted), tried, convicted, and removed, the presidency will go to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Or will it be Senate President Pro Tempore Bernie Sanders? I forget the order and I'm too lazy to search.

Have heads exploded yet?

Here's the thing. With the 2020 elections not all that far away, and the mid-term elections this year, all the Democrats have to do is get control of House and Senate (not an impossibility at the moment), then drag things out in 2019, wait for 2020 to roll around, then do the impeachment.

That way the damage is done (con artist impeached) and Pence only has a short time to be in office (remember Ford?).

 

[someoneyouknow]

As a follow up to a comment I made earlier about there being no verifiable paper trail, I submit the following:

The counties, under state law, perform an audit of the results on the electronic voting machines that typically involves comparing the overall tally on a hard drive, a flash drive and a paper tape that separately record each vote. Deviations are a rarity, county officials say.​

Read that again. All they do is compare the number of votes cast against one another. There is no way for them to verify if the vote cast is the one recorded. That is why our voting system is so bogus.

Even worse, Republicans fight tooth and nail to prevent a true, verifiable voting system from being implemented. Their usual excuse? Computers don't make mistakes.

And yet, they're now claiming there were irregularities. Funny that.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gop-considering-recount-lawsuit-after-pennsylvania-special-election/

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I doubt the Dum leadership will go for a POTUS impeachment unless they can get VP Pence too. Pence is nutz but knows how to play the gov't game; he's more toxic than Tromp. If both are impeached (indicted), tried, convicted, and removed, the presidency will go to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Or will it be Senate President Pro Tempore Bernie Sanders? I forget the order and I'm too lazy to search.

Have heads exploded yet?

Speaker of the house is 3rd in line. I hadn't even considered The Apostle Mike Pence being part of the indebeitment

 

[Captainnumnuts]

Speaker of the house is 3rd in line. I hadn't even considered The Apostle Mike Pence being part of the indebeitment

I think the Speaker used to be 3rd. I believe the Speaker of the house is 5th in line now.

 

[someoneyouknow]

I think the Speaker used to be 3rd. I believe the Speaker of the house is 5th in line now.

Here ya go:

https://www.infoplease.com/order-presidential-succession-trump

P.S. It's already outdated. Tillerson is no longer around.

P.P.S. It's amazing what we can do with computers these days

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I think the Speaker used to be 3rd. I believe the Speaker of the house is 5th in line now.

Not absent a constitutional amendment

 

[someoneyouknow]

As if there were any doubt, Saccone admits defeat. Con artist fails again.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/21/politics/lamb-saccone-concession/index.html