Trib question for the ladies

[Stella_Omega]

Wanted to ask this yesterday -- Was it genital-to-genital grinding or grinding against some other body part? The way you worded it -- "so to speak" -- makes me think it was the form without genital-to-genital rubbing.

No, it was clit-to-clit, missionary style-- me on the bottom, and her too inexperienced to let me shift over to get a better angle-- if I recall, because this was... almost forty years ago! She saw herself as a bull-dagger type. In reality we were a pair of skinny little kids...

LOL, I had to Google that. Make a mountain out of a molehill. I, too, thought there was some over-reaction in this discussion. So many of my lesbian friends get so passionate about the term "scissoring" because they hate that term, even though most of them do trib (just different versions of it).

it's holdover from the beginning of the sexual revolution, IMO. Kinsey, for one, came up with some really dismissive terms for a lot of sexual practices. Anything using the hands he called "mutual masturbation." And of course, "masturbation" is something that only children and lonely people do, and isn't really sex... And because he was one of the few people talking, he was horribly influential. He really did have a lot of influence on what my generation considered "normal" or "real sex" and what is not. I've spent a lot of my life fighting those preconceptions in myself.

If you were also responding to my comment above -- all the links and stuff -- I am just tired of some lesbians generalizing what other lesbians or "women who have sex with women" do in the bedroom without backing it up with sources of any kind. I would never say, "No lesbian scissors," no matter how rare it is for lesbians to take partake in that form of tribadism. And some lesbians use "scissoring" to mean any form of genital-to-genital contact, as if lesbians rarely engage in this. I, as stated above, love to grind women, and not just their thighs or abdomens. If I'm in the missionary position with a woman, yes, my sex grinding against hers crosses my mind. This action is very pleasing and erotic to me -- sexual organ touching sexual organ -- and I'm free to use my hands for other things. I simply do not scissor, though. No way, no how... Not the typical kind anyway (because I do bend and spread legs in ways where I'm positioned between them).

I do hope you stick around, Miss T! You are very articulate-- delightful to read.

 

[PricelessT]

No, it was clit-to-clit, missionary style-- me on the bottom, and her too inexperienced to let me shift over to get a better angle-- if I recall, because this was... almost forty years ago! She saw herself as a bull-dagger type. In reality we were a pair of skinny little kids...

Oh, I see. I suppose not everyone is going to be good at it at first, especially when so young. I also realize that it's not every lesbian's taste; I certainly don't begrudge them that.

...it's holdover from the beginning of the sexual revolution, IMO. Kinsey, for one, came up with some really dismissive terms for a lot of sexual practices. Anything using the hands he called "mutual masturbation." And of course, "masturbation" is something that only children and lonely people do, and isn't really sex... And because he was one of the few people talking, he was horribly influential. He really did have a lot of influence on what my generation considered "normal" or "real sex" and what is not. I've spent a lot of my life fighting those preconceptions in myself.

Well said. Exactly. There's already men, and straight women, out there who believe that a lesbian is a virgin until they are vaginally penetrated by a man. This, of course, has to do with what many heterosexuals call "technical virginity." To many straight-folk, oral, anal or outercourse don't count as "real sex." That may be the case for them, but they should know it doesn't apply to gay and lesbian individuals, not all of them anyway (as I have come across a few "gold star lesbians" who still feel they are virgins because they have not been vaginally penetrated by a man). These articles have some good information on this:

Sex on Tuesday: Virginity: A Fluid Issue

The Five Myths of Lesbian Sex ... Although the author in this link seems to imply that genital-to-genital sex isn't the norm for lesbians, not just scissoring.

I do hope you stick around, Miss T! You are very articulate-- delightful to read.

Ah, thank you. I think the same of you. I'll be around from time to time. Usually very busy these days, but I have this site bookmarked now and will surely drop in sometimes to weigh in on certain topics.

 

[Stella_Omega]

my crowd calls that "PIV" sex. Penis In Vagina... I fell for that myth too back in the day.

Since then though, I have decided, like Scott in your first link that "If you've ever performed one sexual act instead of another because you were trying to protect your virginity, you're not a virgin."

Although the author in this link seems to imply that genital-to-genital sex isn't the norm for lesbians, not just scissoring.

Well, it's never been the norm for the lesbians I've been with... Or maybe just because I never brought it up with my partners, since I'm pretty dominant...

The second link is pretty good, I would link men friends to it!

 

[PricelessT]

my crowd calls that "PIV" sex. Penis In Vagina... I fell for that myth too back in the day.

LOL!

Since then though, I have decided, like Scott in your first link that "If you've ever performed one sexual act instead of another because you were trying to protect your virginity, you're not a virgin."

The two sex acts I have never been able think of as taking one's virginity has always been oral sex performed on a man or a handjob. I just can't wrap my brain around a woman's virginity being taken all because a man's penis was in her mouth or in her hands. I mean, does grabbing a man's package through his clothes make her "not a virgin" too? Don't get me wrong, I do consider oral sex "real sex," but my mind is more accepting of the man performing oral on the woman as taking her virginity than the other way around. Maybe all the "heterosexual rules" to sex have made me apply sex acts such as oral as more of "real sex" between women, just like the first link ponders. Hmm. Actually, now that I think about it...I feel that way about lesbian oral, and fingering too. That the virgin performing the acts is still a virgin...until she gets performed on as well.

Well, it's never been the norm for the lesbians I've been with... Or maybe just because I never brought it up with my partners, since I'm pretty dominant...

I'm pretty dominant too. I wonder if two "dominants," as I'll call them/us in this case, work out well in the bedroom. I think all of my partners have been either submissive or less dominant than me. "Less dominant" still qualifies as dominant, but I guess what I mean is...not "too dominant."

I'm also femme, so that confuses some people when I say I'm dominant.

As for whether genital-to-genital sex of any kind is the norm among lesbians, I'm not sure. I just go by sources that say it is a common practice among lesbians, and my own experiences...such as myself and some of my friends who do it often enough (the missionary aspect of it, either with a dildo or without it; you already know I've never used a dildo). What I do know is that "scissoring" is not the norm, LOL.

The second link is pretty good, I would link men friends to it!

I know what you mean.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Two dominant women in bed together, hellll yeah!

we can co-orchestrate the fun, or
take turns, or
Wrestle for the top (because losing is kinda fun too, when you know the winner can take care of your needs)

 

[PricelessT]

LOL!! Loves it.

 

[Mondiale10]

Elmo's song

Just be happy, kid.

 

[Saphs]

For me, it's the feeling of another pussy against mine. I love that the juices from both of us create a truly wet experience that makes us slide against each other. It always turned me on to know that both of us were being stimulated together, especially when we'd orgasm simultaneously.

 

[Etoile]

Just be happy, kid.

Good of you to rethink that post.

 

[Elmo42]

Thanks Saphs, Loved your description and your first time story!

 

[Saphs]

Thanks Saphs, Loved your description and your first time story!

Thank you for the feedback, lovely.

 

[PricelessT]

For me, it's the feeling of another pussy against mine. I love that the juices from both of us create a truly wet experience that makes us slide against each other. It always turned me on to know that both of us were being stimulated together, especially when we'd orgasm simultaneously.

That's pretty much my reason for loving it. Sexually-speaking, I probably feel the most connected to a woman in this way -- our sexual organs actually meeting and my not having to use hands to stimulate her clit/vagina. My other feelings on this are on the previous page (Page 2), and I don't have much else to say on the matter...except that it is one of my favorite sex acts (the missionary position, not the scissoring one).

Elmo42, good to see you're still around and most likely read my earlier responses to this, which include links to tribadism, discussion of the different kinds, and how common they are among lesbians.

As for Mondiale10, I can only imagine what you stated. LOL.

 

[Julie_in_the_north]

That's pretty much my reason for loving it. Sexually-speaking, I probably feel the most connected to a woman in this way -- our sexual organs actually meeting and my not having to use hands to stimulate her clit/vagina. My other feelings on this are on the previous page (Page 2), and I don't have much else to say on the matter...except that it is one of my favorite sex acts (the missionary position, not the scissoring one).

Elmo42, good to see you're still around and most likely read my earlier responses to this, which include links to tribadism, discussion of the different kinds, and how common they are among lesbians.

As for Mondiale10, I can only imagine what you stated. LOL.

Me too. It's not something my partner and I do very often, and as she finds it hard to orgasm from it, for us, it's probably more foreplay than actual sex. But when it works (and the practicalities can be off-putting), I love the feeling of closeness and intimacy - our bodies together, my pussy touching hers, the sensation of skin on skin, and sharing each other's wetness.