Trump Gives NATO A Kick In The Pants

[HisArpy]

I see no reference to 3% in either the video or anywhere else. Do you have a source?

Sorry, it's actually 3.5% agreed to this year, increasing to 5% by 2035. My mistake, but probably because Trump wanted NATO to increase to 3%, and started discussion on that, in 2017. Most member nations have achieved that goal but agreed this year to 3.5%.

 

[Rightguide]

So you stopped defending your previous comments about the US doing much more than they should and focus on wanting to get the US out of NATO. That's a different point, but fair enough. The EU isn't forcing the US to be part of NATO - they can leave if they want. That would essentially mean the end of the alliance and it would most likely be replaced by an EU army. Nothing wrong with that.

But the US has not done that. I guess they must see some value to NATO after all.

Strategically, the elephant in the room is the 4,000-mile supply chain the U.S. must maintain in any modern European war. The original NATO model assumed a permanently forward-based U.S. army sitting on a mountain of pre-positioned gear. Today we’ve got a skeleton footprint, fewer stockpiles, and an adversary (Russia) that can hit ports, airfields, and ships with precision weapons. That means America is expected to fight a high-intensity war on another continent while dragging every bullet, missile, and replacement part across the Atlantic. That’s not a strategy, it’s wishful thinking in the present reality.

 

[LoneMilf]

Sorry, it's actually 3.5% agreed to this year, increasing to 5% by 2035. My mistake, but probably because Trump wanted NATO to increase to 3%, and started discussion on that, in 2017. Most member nations have achieved that goal but agreed this year to 3.5%.

Thanks for confirming that

 

[Rightguide]

Thank you. That is exactly the same information I can find - but HisArpy keeps claiming that there is a current target of 3%

As of 2025, all allied countries (except Iceland, which has no standing forces) are expected to meet or exceed the old 2%-of-GDP defence-spending target — a first for the alliance. Defense News+2euronews+2

For the newly agreed 3.5% core-defence target, only three NATO members — Poland, Lithuania, and Latvia — currently meet or exceed it. Defense News+1

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Psst, hey buddy, wanna history lesson?

JOE BIDEN was President when Russia invaded Ukraine, not Donald Trump.

I also seem to remember something about Obama sending blankets when Russia seized Crimea instead of coming to Ukraine's defense. Again, the President wasn't Donald Trump at the time.

That means your TDS driven narrative falls apart at the very beginning, Budapest memorandum or not, because Trump wasn't the President. So, if you have a problem with the US not living up to its obligations, BLAME JOE BIDEN AND BARAK OBAMA.

Pssst. Here’s a history lessson. Trump personally gauaranteed over 53 times that the Russsia Ukraine war would be over a year ago.

 

[Chernosoth]

With Europe starting to get serious about rearming, the Mideasterners, North Africans, and Indians who will eventually take all of Europe will be well equipped for Europe's default state of declaring war on Monday and peace on Friday to be ready for a new war next week.