Trump indicted in documents case

[jaF0]

And lots of names have been singing.

 

[Plasmaball]

Lol ha. What's up dude? It's been a while.

Just older and living life. How are you

 

[zipman]

Just older and living life. How are you

The same.

 

[Plasmaball]

The same.

That's good. I see the politics section has lost a few right wing goofballs

 

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=2ab68b00c4244818a0fddb5306113643&ei=95

Stephanie Grisham, former Trump White House Press Secretary and Communications Director, joins Alex Witt to discuss new reports that Trump's 2024 campaign aide Susie Wiles has been identified as the key witness in classified docs indictment and why the former president's lack of respect for classified information is so dangerous. "I watched him show documents to people at Mar-a-Lago on the dining room patio," Grisham says. "He has no respect for classified information [and] never did."

 

[Bray123]

The person to whom Trump was showing the documents (I cant declassify these, I'm no longer President), works for a China lobbying company.

But that's OK, yes? China, China China.

https://radaronline.com/p/donald-tr...saw-classified-map-works-china-lobbying-firm/

 

[butters]

additional details about m-a-l search after judge ruled more could be unsealed

The revised affidavit, which was first reported by POLITICO’s Kyle Cheney, also described how the door to the storage room was “painted gold” and is reachable by several wooden stairs.

In addition, investigators found other boxes intermingled with the ones containing classified documents, including several which held “merchandise such as challenge coins, garment bags, memorabilia from Mar-a-Lago such as photograph frames, and other décor items.”

just the way every president of the United States of America should be storing state secret documents... not.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/n...1&cvid=ac5b00f35d8c4792b98d805bbb040fe6&ei=25

 

[phrodeau]

Walt Nauta still doesn’t have a lawyer for his arraignment.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article277018998.html

 

[jaF0]

Mar-a-Lago Photos Reveal Classified Documents Were Unguarded During Party​

Trump's aide is alleged to have found classified materials spilled on the floor of a storage room the same day an event was held at the Florida resort.



How many 'guests' wandered through Joe's garage while stuff was spilled on the floors?

 

[jaF0]

Waltine?


As in cracker?

 

[butters]

Walt Nauta still doesn’t have a lawyer for his arraignment.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article277018998.html

he pled not guilty today

Stanley Woodward, an attorney for Nauta, entered the plea on his behalf, waived the reading of the complaint and requested a jury trial.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...florida-classified-documents-case/ar-AA1dwb34

 

[KeithD]

Side issue: more than once in recent days I've heard TV commentators say only the president can declassify documents. That's not true. They can be declassified by whoever classified them in the first place. There's a procedure for that. Beyond that, all government offices have committees of employees charged with reviewing and declassifying documents.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Side issue: more than once in recent days I've heard TV commentators say only the president can declassify documents. That's not true. They can be declassified by whoever classified them in the first place. There's a procedure for that. Beyond that, all government offices have committees of employees charged with reviewing and declassifying documents.

And as I understand it, the President doesn't have the authority to declassify nuclear secrets. That authority is vested in the Department of Energy by the authority of Congress. The DoE can provide redacted versions to the President if he needs them to do his job, but he's not authorized to see the originals.

 

[jaF0]

^^ Unless his name is Donny, in which case he can casually show them around at his golf club parties.

 

[butters]

"That Nauta was not charged with lying to grand jury in June but is charged with lying to FBI in May means he changed his tune by June," Weissmann said. "Prosecutors wd otherwise have charged perjury in [grand jury] (which is recorded) as it’s a stronger charge than lying to FBI in an interview."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...1&cvid=2573212c3a92494e8d0c3728a7c03d8f&ei=63

 

[phrodeau]

Recently unredacted portions of the warrant for Trump’s classified documents reveal that many of them contained handwritten notes.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joyce-vance-trump-mar-a-lago-warrant_n_64abfcf9e4b07252cc12e21b

 

[phrodeau]

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/11/trump-classified-documents-trial-date-2024-00105565

Trump wants to delay the trial for years. But if he’s innocent and wants his boxes back, why?

 

[RoryN]

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/11/trump-classified-documents-trial-date-2024-00105565

Trump wants to delay the trial for years. But if he’s innocent and wants his boxes back, why?

It's the oldest trick in his legal playback.

We'll see if the prosecution has anticipated all of his tricks and has contingency plans. (I suspect they do.)

 

[Bray123]

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/11/trump-classified-documents-trial-date-2024-00105565

Trump wants to delay the trial for years. But if he’s innocent and wants his boxes back, why?

The reason for the proposed delay?

He's too busy to go to prison.
Seriously.
He'd better pack in that golfing habit and his Trope Socializing, otherwise the Judge might think he's being lied to.

 

[butters]

he wants to play it out till he wins (he's demanding to win) the nomination and then presidency, after which he'll unilaterally pardon himself or have people put into the DOJ to abruptly end any ongoing investigations into his corruption

 

[Pad_Foot]

Bullshit!! Innocent until proven guilty? Move on with it! He’s tearing the country up with his lies

He already admitted he “shot someone” now let’s see him avoid them proving it! One juror between him and “proving” our Justice system is anything but just.

Be a man, Trump!

The judge was set to go in August.

Good luck!!

But?? He gets in the news every fucking day

 

[Bn2f]

he wants to play it out till he wins (he's demanding to win) the nomination and then presidency, after which he'll unilaterally pardon himself or have people put into the DOJ to abruptly end any ongoing investigations into his corruption

And that’s why it’s so very important that he never gets a whiff of the presidency again.

 

[Bray123]

I can't see the trial happening in August; everyone involved including the jury will have to be vetted first. But Trump's lawyers asked for this early date and when it was granted they asked for an indefinite continuance. They are a bunch of complete idiots who shouldn't be standing up in traffic court.

 

[Bray123]

It's not just the YouTube lawyers that are running the defense that will struggle to pass vetting because Trump lost his security clearance together with the Presidency.

There's no chance of the Blabbermouth in Chief getting any clearance again, he'd be unable to get a job as parking attendant at the Pentagon. So he'll likely be required to leave the court whenever the 'declassified' documents are mentioned.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I can't see the trial happening in August; everyone involved including the jury will have to be vetted first. But Trump's lawyers asked for this early date and when it was granted they asked for an indefinite continuance. They are a bunch of complete idiots who shouldn't be standing up in traffic court.

The August date was moved to December at the DOJ’s request. The Trump team is now pushing to delay until after the election. Butters is probably right about the Trump team’s strategy. If he wins the presidency all bets are off.