Trump Threatens To Cut Aid To U.N. Members Over Jerusalem Vote

[BeeZeBody]

THEY need us and US

WE dont NEED them

 

[bellisarius]

President Trump, and the US Ambassador to the UN, threatening countries didn't go down well with the US's allies. They see the President's declaration that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel as very unhelpful in sorting out the Middle East. If Jerusalem is to be Israel's accepted capital that should have been a bargaining point in negotiations, not given away for nothing.

The vote by US's allies shows that they are very unhappy with the decision. They wouldn't have voted for, or abstained, without telling Washington why they were going to vote against him, or abstain. They have sent a very strong message to President Trump. He ignored all the concerns that America's friends expressed very loudly and clearly. Pissing off almost all your friends is not sensible.

Ogg, they can be as unhappy as they want to be but it still comes down to having done nothing more than recognized the obvious. Jerusalem is, and always has been, the capital of the Jewish homeland.

As far as the situation in the middle east is concerned it's very much like the situation in N. Korea. Nothing, absolutely nothing, that anyone has done has advanced the peace process in that region. Appeasement hasn't moved that ball forward one iota. The so called Palestinians and their allies have shown that nothing short of the complete eradication of Israel will satisfy their demands. That being the case exactly what should anyone do? Maybe, just maybe, if they observe that all of their actions result in negative results they might begin to rethink their position. I don't place any high hopes on that possibility, they are a wholly ignorant and thoroughly indoctrinated population, but as I said, nothing else has worked now for 70 some years.

 

[Hypoxia]

blah blah blort blort

Aha, yet another BB alt to ignore till it's banned. ByeBye again BarfyBoi.

 

[JohnnySavage]

He should have cut all foreign aid on day one. We can't afford to take care of our own, without borrowing from China.

 

[Rightguide]

I seriously think it's time to invite the UN to leave the United States for Europe or Africa and withdraw our support. It basically functions as an anti-American forum for the Third World.

 

[oggbashan]

I seriously think it's time to invite the UN to leave the United States for Europe or Africa and withdraw our support. It basically functions as an anti-American forum for the Third World.

But this vote was supported by many of America's solid allies. We expect many countries to vote against the US and its allies, but when your friends say you are wrong? You should listen.

America's influence is strengthened by its allies. Yes, they need the US, but the US needs its allies too.

Don't overreact. This was a single issue that is divisive. Next week, next year? The US's allies will be there supporting the US at the UN and elsewhere.

 

[oggbashan]

Ogg, they can be as unhappy as they want to be but it still comes down to having done nothing more than recognized the obvious. Jerusalem is, and always has been, the capital of the Jewish homeland.

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It has been recognised by the US as the capital for some time. But moving the US embassy to Jerusalem takes a step further.

As for Jerusalem always being the capital? It was the capital of Palestine long before the modern state of Israel existed.

If you think 'always' is true, then the US should hand back all its lands to Native Americans, and the political map of the world would need major revision.

 

[BeeZeBody]

Eastern European Countries that DONT ALLOW Muslims in...abstained

Euro PUKE Cuntries that are infested by MUSLIMS voted against

HOPING THE WONT BE BOMBED

 

[BeeZeBody]

By attacking JEWS and ISRAEL

Europuke is TELLING GOD

FUCK YOU



GOD WILL NOT BE HAPPY!

 

[phrodeau]

Who attacked God’s little snowflakes?

 

[Rightguide]

But this vote was supported by many of America's solid allies. We expect many countries to vote against the US and its allies, but when your friends say you are wrong? You should listen.

America's influence is strengthened by its allies. Yes, they need the US, but the US needs its allies too.

Don't overreact. This was a single issue that is divisive. Next week, next year? The US's allies will be there supporting the US at the UN and elsewhere.

The United States doesn't need allies who want to dictate decisions that clearly fall within its sovereign authority. Nobody questions your right to vote or be anti-American, we are simply saying we aren't going to subsidize the subversion of our national sovereignty or the exploitation of our generous nature.

We are not going to accept presumed UN authority to declare null and void sovereign decisions made by the United States. Nor are we going to accept without consequence the subversion of our national goals by friends or foe alike. We are a great nation, we can forgive our enemies and our sunshine friends, but like JFK suggested we're going to remember their names.

 

[oggbashan]

The United States doesn't need allies who want to dictate decisions that clearly fall within its sovereign authority. Nobody questions your right to vote or be anti-American, we are simply saying we aren't going to subsidize the subversion of our national sovereignty or the exploitation of our generous nature.

We are not going to accept presumed UN authority to declare null and void sovereign decisions made by the United States. Nor are we going to accept without consequence the subversion of our national goals by friends or foe alike. We are a great nation, we can forgive our enemies and our sunshine friends, but like JFK suggested we're going to remember their names.

That statement makes America weaker. Decisions about Jerusalem, Israel and Palestine affect more than the US's sovereign authority.

Most of the friendly countries that voted for this resolution or abstained are not intending to subvert the US's national goals. What they are saying loudly is that this one decision is WRONG.

If you think the US doesn't need allies, please can you give us back our UK and other European nations' dead who died alongside US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Your allies have sent young people to die to support US policies.

What irritates the US's allies is the suggestion that saying 'this time you are wrong' turns us from allies into enemies. If that is real US policy the US is going to be in deep shit competing with Russia and China.

 

[jaF0]

Ogg, they can be as unhappy as they want to be but it still comes down to having done nothing more than recognized the obvious.

The State of Israel should not even exist.

 

[phrodeau]

I can't find in the bible anywhere that God gave Jerusalem to anyone specifically. The city has changed hands and borders so many times, it's obvious that God doesn't give a shit about it. In fact, with so many misbegotten acts of God in or near Jerusalem, maybe He would prefer if we all forgot about it.

 

[Rightguide]

That statement makes America weaker. Decisions about Jerusalem, Israel and Palestine affect more than the US's sovereign authority.

Your leader has spent months doing her best to weaken out President with her insults to Trump and to the American who voted for him. In actuality, I think your country continues in decline. Not ours.

Most of the friendly countries that voted for this resolution or abstained are not intending to subvert the US's national goals. What they are saying loudly is that this one decision is WRONG.

What the resolution said was the decision of our government to move its embassy was "null and void" as if they had the authority to direct our foreign policy. That wasn't just saying "you're wrong." It was an insult, period.

If you think the US doesn't need allies, please can you give us back our UK and other European nations' dead who died alongside US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Your allies have sent young people to die to support US policies.

Don't lecture us about the need for allies almost 130,000 of our dead are buried on foreign soil, 104,366 in all of Europe, almost 10,000 in France alone and over 4000 in your country. We know what fidelity means.

What irritates the US's allies is the suggestion that saying 'this time you are wrong' turns us from allies into enemies. If that is real US policy the US is going to be in deep shit competing with Russia and China.

What our sunshine friends in Europe need to think about is having to face Russia alone.


The reality is the present generation of Americans isn't going to sign off on a sacrifice anywhere near the size of the commitment made by their grandparents and great-grandparents in blood and treasure for the defense of European soil. We can be friends but without reciprocation, we aren't going to be best friends forever.

 

[jaF0]

These are precisely some of the giveaway comments of the antisemitic Left.

They hate one the most successful minorities (jews) from their own country, yet they don't want them to have their own country either.
So where exactly should we put them?

It's not 'their own country' It was carved out from that occupied by others on a vote by the UN.

They already have New York, don't they?

 

[Rightguide]

It's not 'their own country' It was carved out from that occupied by others on a vote by the UN.

They already have New York, don't they?

Sounds like you're ready to start up the gas chambers and fire up the ovens again, eh?

 

[oggbashan]

Russia and the US now recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Is President Trump following President Putin's lead?

 

[Rightguide]

Russia and the US now recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Is President Trump following President Putin's lead?

When Bush and Obama supported doing the same did you suggest the same thing?

 

[oggbashan]

When Bush and Obama supported doing the same did you suggest the same thing?

No. Because Russia did not do the same at the time.

I have no problem with the US decision sometime ago that in principle they recognised Jerusalem as the capital of Israel but did nothing about making that a reality. That was just words. It will probably have to happen sometime but as part of a negotiated agreement between Israel, the Palestinians and other Middle East countries.

But when President Trump decides to implement that unilaterally by moving the US Embassy, there are consequences. When the US goes further and attacks the majority of its allies? That is playing Putin's game. He has discarded an Ace in the poker game without holding a single pair.

 

[oggbashan]

They will gradually become an extinct minority in Europe, proportionate with the increase in the muslim minority.
I never heard of muslims and jews living in harmony, in fact as of late quite a few imams in Europe were caught preaching violence towards jews.

Many Muslims and Jews live in harmony within the state of Israel. Or hadn't you noticed?

 

[BeeZeBody]

Many Muslims and Jews live in harmony within the state of Israel. Or hadn't you noticed?

the ONLY place in the world where ALL 3 religions live side by side in peace

 

[BeeZeBody]

BTW

Obama didn’t only threaten but immediately pulled funding from African countries that passed laws to define marriage as between one man and one woman. His administration punished us for not kneeling before the rainbow flag.

 

[DooleyDarter]

I find the folks who think this decision by Trump will have any negative effect on a so called "peace process" are at the least naive and the most ignorant of the events in the past 30 years or so.

the Pals have been offered many chances at peace and ignore all of them. I find it ironic that all the land they claim is theirs, they have lost while invading Israel. The spoils of war go to the victor.

Sooner or later all that land will be settled by Israeli's.

The Pals do not want peace, they just want to destroy Israel. Lets don't even mention "peace process" until that changes.

It is my honest hope that the US quits funding the Pals as long as their government is a terrorist organization.

 

[Bert Notorius]

i get it.

there has been
far too much carrot,
and not enough
stick.