Trump's Katrina 2017

[gotsnowgotslush]

There is film footage of FEMA and Homeland security stumped by the blocked roads. Film crews from news services recorded deserted streets, with no activity.

 

[Hypoxia]

Distribution problem? Never heard of airdrops?

And as I've mentioned, PR's financial and infrastructure problems are not solely of the territory's doing. Congress (mis)rules the territories and DC, which have VERY limited self-government. Congressional acts, from long ago to fairly recently, set the stage for the crisis. Statehood would free the territory, more populous than 21 states, from Congressional mishandling.

States smaller than Puerto Rico: Iowa, Utah, Mississippi, Arkansas, Nevada, Kansas, New Mexico, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Hawai'i, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South and North Dakotas, Alaska, (DC), Vermont, Wyoming.

 

[JackLuis]

Distribution problem? Never heard of airdrops?

-.

The use of Air drop in the days of helicopters is wasteful of parachutes. The Marines and Army have more than enough 'copters to service the island. The number of Navy helio landing ships and A/C carriers is more than sufficient to distribute supplies. This assumes that our CinC orders the services to deploy.

Deploying our combat engineering battalions to clear the roads and install bridges could open other distribution methods quickly.

Recent estimates of the cost of rebuilding PR are in the order of $80-90 Billion, which about the amount that Congress just added to the DoD's budget for next year. SO by diverting those funds and other necessary adjustments, the budget could be balanced by cutting the loopholes that allow our Corporations to avoid meaningful taxation.

Hiring local PR's to rebuild could jump start the PR economy until the ag sector recovers.

The only impediment to recovery is Congress and the Administrations resolve to get on with the job. So Puerto Rico is fucked!

 

[sr71plt]

Nevertheless airdrops are an option. There may not be many places a helicopter can land yet in Puerto Rico. It's a hurricane-torn tropical island, not the desert.

 

[JackLuis]

Nevertheless airdrops are an option. There may not be many places a helicopter can land yet in Puerto Rico. It's a hurricane-torn tropical island, not the desert.

Chopers don't have to land, CH-47s can sling load a ton of supplies and drop it off with out having to land. Blackhawks and Green Giants can too. Parachutes cost a hell of a lot more than cargo nets.

 

[phrodeau]

Puerto Rico is 80% forest-covered mountains, and although the hurricanes left it looking like a stubble field, the stubble is still 50 feet high.

 

[sr71plt]

Chopers don't have to land, CH-47s can sling load a ton of supplies and drop it off with out having to land. Blackhawks and Green Giants can too. Parachutes cost a hell of a lot more than cargo nets.

So, why are you mucking around with technicalities of what an air drop is? It's stuff flown in by air, which would include slinging it in. Go do something useful rather than nitpicking.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Nevertheless airdrops are an option.

Always.

There may not be many places a helicopter can land yet in Puerto Rico. It's a hurricane-torn tropical island, not the desert.

Your argument is invalid.
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So, why are you mucking around with technicalities of what an air drop is?

Because he's ABN as fuck and knows shit about air drops and sling loading......unlike you.

It's stuff flown in by air, which would include slinging it in. Go do something useful rather than nitpicking.

No it's not and no it doesn't.

Like I said...you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[JackLuis]

So, why are you mucking around with technicalities of what an air drop is? It's stuff flown in by air, which would include slinging it in. Go do something useful rather than nitpicking.

Rather than 'nitpicking' Pilot why can't you acknowledge that you are not completely knowledgeable about every thing. I've rigged and airdropped hundreds of loads into many places all over the world. Some with high altitude and some with low altitudes. The is no reason to waste our parachutes and other airdrop materials unless people are shooting at the Heilo's.

Rather than nitpicking everything I post why don't you post something constructive?

 

[Hypoxia]

Should I have said "air supply" instead of 'airdrops'??

I was not trying to specify method, but to suggest approach. Not all transport is across the earth's surface. Clearing roads is vital, yes, but IIRC the USA military has some experience with landing supplies in hostile terrain.

And 'they' (White House, agencies, military) apparently could have started relief efforts days sooner, but didn't, because clusterfuck at the top. No excuse for not flying-in aid.

 

[JackLuis]

Should I have said "air supply" instead of 'airdrops'??

I was not trying to specify method, but to suggest approach. Not all transport is across the earth's surface. Clearing roads is vital, yes, but IIRC the USA military has some experience with landing supplies in hostile terrain.

And 'they' (White House, agencies, military) apparently could have started relief efforts days sooner, but didn't, because clusterfuck at the top. No excuse for not flying-in aid.

I was just pointing out that air drop is expensive and other means are more efficient. With the amount the Army and Navy have dedicated to Heio's in the last 50 years, we have th means to reach all the island until the roads are cleared and repaired, if the Dick in Chief ordered it.

 

[sr71plt]

Rather than 'nitpicking' Pilot why can't you acknowledge that you are not completely knowledgeable about every thing.

I'm not knowledgeable about everything and never claimed I was. I also don't comment on everything, especially things I'm not knowledgeable about.

Now it's your turn. I really think this is more your sin than mine.

 

[JackLuis]

I'm not knowledgeable about everything and never claimed I was. I also don't comment on everything, especially things I'm not knowledgeable about.

Now it's your turn. I really think this is more your sin than mine.

I can believe you believe that Pilot.

 

[sr71plt]

I can believe you believe that Pilot.

Yep, just as I thought. You can suggest that others acknowledge they don't know everything (even when they don't claim to), but you won't acknowledge that of yourself.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

jeeze, can't you guys find enough right wing assholes to fight with?

 

[sr71plt]

I don't do teams or stay inside dogma boundaries.

 

[Hypoxia]

Besides, they don't need supplies. The mayor of San Juan can get everyone custom-printed t-shirts. Funny how she doesn't seem to be suffering...at all. It's like the politicians on that island have been robbing it for decades.

As has been pointed out, such tees can be made in minutes -- in seconds, with iron-on letters. No custom printing needed. But as also has been noted, custom-print jobs can be done in minutes, too. I know, you'd rather see her in a wet silk tee, bra-less, nipples hard, excited at the prospect of... presidential paper towels. Yowzah!

PR has minimal self-governance. Congress, which rules PR, has been stiffing the territory (more populous than 21 states) for decades. Place blame where it's due, hey? You might want to research PR's history as a USA colonial possession.

 

[Hypoxia]

Some here don't get that PR doesn't run PR, Congress runs PR. And DC.

You have issues with colonial governance and debt, see Congress.

The colonized are usually fucked. That's why we had a revolution, hey?

"No taxation without representation." Except PR, DC, VI, Guam.

Limited governance means you can't do jack shit about your troubles.

 

[Hypoxia]

Everything you just posted.is wrong. Not partially wrong. 100% wrong.

Either you don't know, don't care, or.your.comfortable lying.

Citations refuting each point, please. Thank you.

 

[sr71plt]

Everything you just posted.is wrong. Not partially wrong. 100% wrong.

Either you don't know, don't care, or.your.comfortable lying.

You were being inundated with periods so uncomfortably that you had to sprinkle them indiscriminately on your post?

Yeah, I'd like to see your refuting source citations as well.

I'm also curious how much the Russians sending you checks to post your crap here are paying you.