US healthcare ranks last

[DeluxAuto]

FACT CHECK: Healthcare costs in the US began to soar in the 1970s and have continued to rise unchecked ever since.

Totally Fact Free Latecomer never disappoints.

She'll be gone once school starts after Christmas break.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Medicare Advantage plans from private insurers ripoff the government and deny care to patients. A good example of the medical industry’s attempts to bankrupt America.

 

[heathrowinneo]

Medicare Advantage plans from private insurers ripoff the government and deny care to patients. A good example of the medical industry’s attempts to bankrupt America.

agree and too bad the insurance companies can scam the elderly. Too bad seniors fall for their bs and dont stick with traditional Medicare.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Mark Cuban has interesting takes on US healthcare. He’s behind Cost Plus Drugs, so he has some detailed knowledge of the system.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Healthcare is the #1 issue for 2026 in the 45-59 age group. It’s in the top 3 issues for all age groups.

Any Congressional candidate in the midterms who doesn’t have a specific plan for healthcare is a useless numbskull.

 

[Chadrone]

Healthcare is the #1 issue for 2026 in the 45-59 age group. It’s in the top 3 issues for all age groups.

Any Congressional candidate in the midterms who doesn’t have a specific plan for healthcare is a useless numbskull.

"Best plan for healthcare is to get the fraud enabling and corrupt democrats out of power."

Boom....GOP almost doesn't even have to try. It's almost like the Democrats are trying to get the GOP a super majority.

 

[Wilson23]

"Best plan for healthcare is to get the fraud enabling and corrupt democrats out of power."

That approach will get nowhere unless the GOP has a more appealing health care plan of its own. And they have consistently failed to come up with one since the Obama years.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Notice to bots: please don’t stage “conversations” in the healthcare thread. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

 

[MajorRewrite]

The cost of medical care continued to rise faster than general inflation in 2025.

2025 increase: 3.15%
2024 increase: 2.83%

 

[Rightguide]

Let’s get this straight:

The U.S. system isn’t “healthcare” so much as a hybrid welfare system, emergency triage center, and chronic disease management program for the entire developed world, and then it gets blamed for the bill. We spend more because:

We subsidize global pharmaceutical R&D while Europe price-controls and free-rides. We treat everyone, including non-citizens, uninsured, and people who haven’t seen a doctor in 20 years. We absorb the costs of violence, fentanyl epidemics, diabetes, heart disease, and obesity, all of which magically disappear in these “peer nation” spreadsheets.

But oh yeah, compare us to Norway, Japan, or Switzerland. Tiny, homogeneous populations. Lower crime. Lower obesity. No open-border healthcare demand. Totally apples-to-apples.

Then there’s the laughable claim that Americans “pay nearly double.” Yes, because the U.S. doesn’t cap prices by fiat, doesn’t criminalize innovation, and doesn’t pretend that shortages are “efficiency.” When Canadians come south for cancer treatment and Brits flee the NHS for private care, it’s not because our system is “dead last.”

And then we arrive at the galaxy-brain conclusion: “My concept of a plan: copy the healthcare system of any other developed nation.”

Translation:
“I have no idea how those systems actually work, how they’re funded, what they deny, who they exclude, or why they’re already cracking under demographic pressure, but vibes in my nipples say Europe good, America bad.”

 

[MajorRewrite]

As usual, you’re 100% bluster and 0% facts. You need to insist the Russian propaganda sources provide you with better lies.

We treat everyone, including non-citizens, uninsured, and people who haven’t seen a doctor in 20 years.

All of the other developed nations literally have universal healthcare coverage. Pretending that US healthcare is more expensive because “we treat everyone” is classic RightGuide stupidity. JFC.

Then there’s the laughable claim that Americans “pay nearly double.”

It’s a fact that Americans pay twice per capita what other nations pay, and they cover everyone. Your refusal to accept facts is dumb.

 

[Wilson23]

As usual, you’re 100% bluster and 0% facts. You need to insist the Russian propaganda sources provide you with better lies.

What health care system does Russia have, anyway?

 

[heathrowinneo]

What health care system does Russia have, anyway?

Gulags, they have gulags. In very cold climates.

 

[heathrowinneo]

Let’s get this straight:

The U.S. system isn’t “healthcare” so much as a hybrid welfare system, emergency triage center, and chronic disease management program for the entire developed world, and then it gets blamed for the bill. We spend more because:

We subsidize global pharmaceutical R&D while Europe price-controls and free-rides. We treat everyone, including non-citizens, uninsured, and people who haven’t seen a doctor in 20 years. We absorb the costs of violence, fentanyl epidemics, diabetes, heart disease, and obesity, all of which magically disappear in these “peer nation” spreadsheets.

But oh yeah, compare us to Norway, Japan, or Switzerland. Tiny, homogeneous populations. Lower crime. Lower obesity. No open-border healthcare demand. Totally apples-to-apples.

Then there’s the laughable claim that Americans “pay nearly double.” Yes, because the U.S. doesn’t cap prices by fiat, doesn’t criminalize innovation, and doesn’t pretend that shortages are “efficiency.” When Canadians come south for cancer treatment and Brits flee the NHS for private care, it’s not because our system is “dead last.”

And then we arrive at the galaxy-brain conclusion: “My concept of a plan: copy the healthcare system of any other developed nation.”

Translation:
“I have no idea how those systems actually work, how they’re funded, what they deny, who they exclude, or why they’re already cracking under demographic pressure, but vibes in my nipples say Europe good, America bad.”

The third paragraph making comparisons to other countries with lower crime, lower obesity. And the EU has open borders with their countries. BTW, cite the source.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

this concerns me greatly.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Trump healthcare plan coming “later this week”?

Trump said later this week, he will "announce our health care affordability framework" which he said would reduce premiums, lower drug prices and demand accountability from insurance companies. He didn't provide specifics.

Treasury Secretary Bessent said the same thing a few months ago.

It will be interesting to see if this is Trump’s new version of his “two weeks” promises.

 

[Bray123]

As usual, you’re 100% bluster and 0% facts. You need to insist the Russian propaganda sources provide you with better lies.



All of the other developed nations literally have universal healthcare coverage. Pretending that US healthcare is more expensive because “we treat everyone” is classic RightGuide stupidity. JFC.



It’s a fact that Americans pay twice per capita what other nations pay, and they cover everyone. Your refusal to accept facts is dumb.

Also, very few countries have something that Americans accept as normal, which is 'medical bankruptcy' (over half a million filings every year).

 

[MajorRewrite]

If anyone is interested in learning about healthcare systems in other nations, I highly recommend “The Healing of America, a global quest for better, cheaper and fairer healthcare” by TR Reid. It was a bestseller back in 2009, but the basic facts won’t have changed a lot. It’s an easy, quick read. I borrowed it from the library.

The book is an in-depth look at the UK, Canada, France, Germany and Japan. The author doesn’t advocate for a specific system. He explains the pros and cons of each. He’d lived in the UK and Japan, and went to the other nations to talk to doctors.

 

[Rightguide]

The third paragraph making comparisons to other countries with lower crime, lower obesity. And the EU has open borders with their countries. BTW, cite the source.

When I used the phrase “no open-border healthcare demand” in reference to Nordic countries, what I meant was that even in those countries with universal healthcare systems, there is not a broad political demand or policy regime that provides unrestricted, unconditional healthcare to everyone regardless of legal residency status,i.e., “open border” access to the full suite of health services simply by virtue of being present. The actual policies in Nordic states show limits on health coverage for people without legal status, and most of the universal systems are tied to residency or legal status, not open access to all. There are conditions placed on un-documented aliens.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/in.../how-does-universal-health-coverage-work?utm_

 

[MajorRewrite]

When I used the phrase “no open-border healthcare demand” in reference to Nordic countries, what I meant was that even in those countries with universal healthcare systems, there is not a broad political demand or policy regime that provides unrestricted, unconditional healthcare to everyone regardless of legal residency status,i.e., “open border” access to the full suite of health services simply by virtue of being present. The actual policies in Nordic states show limits on health coverage for people without legal status, and most of the universal systems are tied to residency or legal status, not open access to all. There are conditions placed on un-documented aliens.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/in.../how-does-universal-health-coverage-work?utm_

The US also doesn’t provide healthcare coverage to “everyone regardless of legal status.”

In fact, the US has 26 million citizens without health insurance. The Nordic countries (and all other developed countries) have zero citizens without health insurance.

 

[Rightguide]

The US also doesn’t provide healthcare coverage to “everyone regardless of legal status.”

In fact, the US has 26 million citizens without health insurance. The Nordic countries (and all other developed countries) have zero citizens without health insurance.

That's because illegal aliens are clogging up emergency rooms all across America.

 

[Bray123]

That's because illegal aliens are clogging up emergency rooms all across America.

And the UK NHS is clogging up with rectifying botched jobs done at private hospitals home and abroad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-15458855/Botched-medical-tourism-costs-NHS-20-000.html