Valentine's Villanelle Challenge

[Sinseria]

Perhaps we could put what type format each poem is for us un form people

 

[Magnetron]

I started writing a cuneiform titled Sestina Like An Egyptian but it's taking fucking forever for my clay tablets to bake in the toaster oven.

Magnetic letters on the refrigerator are so much easier to work with.

 

[Sinseria]

hehe ok my uneducated guesses

poem 1 chamie or tzara
poem 2 green or mega (but he said he wasn't doing any )
poem 3 tzara
poem 5 chamie or piscator
poem 6 angie or honey
and 8 is defiantly harry

they are all really great poems ...3 5 and 6 really hit home for me personally 6 is really sad though !

 

[Piscator]

Perhaps we could put what type format each poem is for us un form people

If the form is not a Villlanelle, I've included it (in italics) when the author so indicated in the text and will add to those where the author stated the form in their pm but did not include it in the text.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

I'm going to be super busy for the next week, but after that, I'll give it a shot. BTW, I found a helpful website:

http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/types.html

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Forgive my tendency to be anal about the forms, but #3, "Old Love", is not a conventional Shakespearean sonnet because the lines are of unequal length. Lines 1, 2, 8, 9, 12 & 13 are in tetrameter, while the others are in pentameter. Otherwise, I like the poem.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Numbers 6 and 9 are very irregular, essentially unmetered. Modern poets have written unmetered sonnets, but these would not be considered Italian or Spenserian sonnets, to the best of my knowledge. The website I linked to earlier says:

Usually, English and Italian Sonnets have 10 syllables per line, but Italian Sonnets can also have 11 syllables per line.

French sonnets follow in this same pattern, but normally have 12 syllables per line.

According to Wikipedia, which is always suspect and may have changed in the few minutes that have passed since I read their article,

In English, both English type (Shakespearean) sonnets and Italian type (Petrarchan) sonnets are traditionally written in iambic pentameter lines.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

I didn't have to read past the title to know that "Puttin' My Dingle Berries In Your Pie Tin" is Magnetronic.

 

[HoneyAdored]

......

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Numbers 6 and 9 are very irregular, essentially unmetered. Modern poets have written unmetered sonnets, but these would not be considered Italian or Spenserian sonnets, to the best of my knowledge. The website I linked to earlier says:

Usually, English and Italian Sonnets have 10 syllables per line, but Italian Sonnets can also have 11 syllables per line.

French sonnets follow in this same pattern, but normally have 12 syllables per line.

According to Wikipedia, which is always suspect and may have changed in the few minutes that have passed since I read their article,

In English, both English type (Shakespearean) sonnets and Italian type (Petrarchan) sonnets are traditionally written in iambic pentameter lines.

I trust your offerings will be perfect in every way

 

[AlwaysHungry]

I trust your offerings with be perfect in every way

I'm not trying to be a pest, UYS, but in a challenge where we are trying to use poetic forms, it seems appropriate to discuss whether we actually succeeded in doing so. These challenges are supposed to be learning experiences, and I have learned plenty, mostly from my mistakes.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

It occurs to me that the form names listed at the end of the poems are added by Piscator, not the authors. It might be better to just say generically "sonnet" which can cover a wide variety of poems.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

It occurs to me that the form names listed at the end of the poems are added by Piscator, not the authors. It might be better to just say generically "sonnet" which can cover a wide variety of poems.

Wrong, I think you'll find most poets here know what they are writing ..... and say so when they send them in.

 

[Magnetron]

http://deepundergroundpoetry.com/forum/competitions/read/8633/#329790

Am I really so obvious?

I didn't have to read past the title to know that "Puttin' My Dingle Berries In Your Pie Tin" is Magnetronic.

Of course it was me! I ask, Who else could pen such sweep you off your feet romance?

 

[Magnetron]

I'm not trying to be a pest, UYS, but in a challenge where we are trying to use poetic forms, it seems appropriate to discuss whether we actually succeeded in doing so. These challenges are supposed to be learning experiences, and I have learned plenty, mostly from my mistakes.

I'm perty shore mine was a technical nightmare. But I was in the throes of passion; hot pie talk was cause for me to be too hot n bothered to bother with precision.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

I'm going to be super busy for the next week, but after that, I'll give it a shot. BTW, I found a helpful website:

http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/types.html

I think you'll find this in the sticky threads up the top 'Here there be Challenges' under Look what I found, take your pick
I've bumped the thread just for you

 

[Piscator]

It occurs to me that the form names listed at the end of the poems are added by Piscator, not the authors. It might be better to just say generically "sonnet" which can cover a wide variety of poems.

As stated earlier, I've been using the form named by the author, either as part of the poem or in their pm.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

As stated earlier, I've been using the form named by the author, either as part of the poem or in their pm.

I stand corrected.

 

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by AlwaysHungry View Post
I'm going to be super busy for the next week, but after that, I'll give it a shot. BTW, I found a helpful website:

http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/types.html

I think you'll find this in the sticky threads up the top 'Here there be Challenges' under Look what I found, take your pick

Tzara has also put together a thread of forms which is also in this forums stickies http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=628408

 

[UnderYourSpell]

As stated earlier, I've been using the form named by the author, either as part of the poem or in their pm.

Don't worry Piscator now we poets will get the blame for not knowing how to write instead of you just posting guesses at what they are!

 

[HarryHill]

Originally Posted by AlwaysHungry View Post
I'm going to be super busy for the next week, but after that, I'll give it a shot. BTW, I found a helpful website:

http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/types.html



Tzara has also put together a thread of forms which is also in this forums stickies http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=628408

..
first place I went when the challenge was announced... Lit's bible of forms, thank you once again Tzara

 

[butters]

*sigh*

 

[Magnetron]

*sigh*

No worries ...... there's enough Dingleberry Pie to go around for everyone!





* slaps Harry's hand reaching for sloppy seconds *

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Originally Posted by AlwaysHungry View Post
I'm going to be super busy for the next week, but after that, I'll give it a shot. BTW, I found a helpful website:

http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/types.html



Tzara has also put together a thread of forms which is also in this forums stickies http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=628408

Yep always best to check the sticky threads for essential information.

 

[butters]

I'm not trying to be a pest, UYS, but in a challenge where we are trying to use poetic forms, it seems appropriate to discuss whether we actually succeeded in doing so. These challenges are supposed to be learning experiences, and I have learned plenty, mostly from my mistakes.

in the pursuit of excellence, i would agree that it's absolutely appropriate to discuss this.

i would also add that there are writers here who quite openly state they lack knowledge or experience when it comes to form. and then there are others who fully understand the form and what might appear an error is more a poetic bending of the rules for the sake of the poem. open discussion can enlighten us as to whether a departure from strict adherence to a form's ''rules'' is deliberate, an 'oops', or an 'i tried but couldn't make it better'!