Venezuela

[LoneMilf]

You don't get it. Maduro is running a Narco state. Claudia Sheinbaum is running a Narco state. Gustavo Petro is running a Narco state.

What exactly is a narco state?

 

[CuriousJInLA]

What exactly is a narco state?

Do your own research

Jk. They have no clue

 

[Rebel5soul]

What exactly is a narco state?

A state where the political class are either owned by, or themselves are, drug traffickers.

 

[Chadrone]

A state where the political class are either owned by, or themselves are, drug traffickers.

This is correct.

Do your own research

Jk. They have no clue

You must be one of those "No human is illegal on stolen land!!" folks.....

 

[ll74]

A state where the political class are either owned by, or themselves are, drug traffickers.

We pardon Drug lords.......are traffickers pardoned too or is that dependent on how many $TRUMP coin they own?

 

[LoneMilf]

A state where the political class are either owned by, or themselves are, drug traffickers.

And is there any evidence that this is the case for Venezuela (or Mexico)?

 

[Rebel5soul]

And is there any evidence that this is the case for Venezuela (or Mexico)?

Absolutely. Columbia has returned to borderline status after we beat that one down.

 

[LoneMilf]

Absolutely. Columbia has returned to borderline status after we beat that one down.

And do you have any sources for that?

 

[Chadrone]

And do you have any sources for that?

The left pretends it's not real, so you're not going to get one....not that you'll accept anyhow.

 

[LoneMilf]

The left pretends it's not real, so you're not going to get one....not that you'll accept anyhow.

I always look careful at sources presented - regardless of whether I am sceptical or not. Sometimes I learn something new. But if there are no sources that are even remotely neutral, I have to assume people are just presenting opinions, not facts.

 

[Chadrone]

I always look careful at sources presented - regardless of whether I am sceptical or not. Sometimes I learn something new. But if there are no sources that are even remotely neutral, I have to assume people are just presenting opinions, not facts.

It's ok, there's no drugs or cartels that exist....without a CCN/MSNBC/NYT article to cite, it's not real.

 

[Bray123]

A state where the political class are either owned by, or themselves are, drug traffickers.

Oh, like the US?

 

[LoneMilf]

It's ok, there's no drugs or cartels that exist....without a CCN/MSNBC/NYT article to cite, it's not real.

So you don't have any sources. Ok. How did you come to your conclusions then? I'm guessing it's not first hand knowledge.

 

[Chadrone]

So you don't have any sources.

Exactly...if CNN/MSNBC/NYT doesn't say it, it's not real.

Ok. How did you come to your conclusions then?

The 50+ years of drug wars with the cartels who regularly post videos of their crimes online for the past 15~+ was my primary indicator.

But that just means im FAR RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY MISINFORMATION THEORIST!!! and am clearly just an evil Nazi Asian guy who hates brown people and doesn't know what in his own best interest.....which is obviously to toe that "progressive" democrat line.

I'm guessing it's not first hand knowledge.

2nd hand, I know a few coasties who did drug interdiction for years.

But as we all know, if Democrat controlled media outlets don't say it, it's not real......ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

 

[MajorRewrite]

How did you come to your conclusions then?

The Chad thing doesn’t come to conclusions. It just strings together buzzwords.

 

[LoneMilf]

Exactly...if CNN/MSNBC/NYT doesn't say it, it's not real.



The 50+ years of drug wars with the cartels who regularly post videos of their crimes online for the past 15~+ was my primary indicator.

But that just means im FAR RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY MISINFORMATION THEORIST!!! and am clearly just an evil Nazi Asian guy who hates brown people and doesn't know what in his own best interest.....which is obviously to toe that "progressive" democrat line.



2nd hand, I know a few coasties who did drug interdiction for years.

But as we all know, if Democrat controlled media outlets don't say it, it's not real......ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

So basically you are saying that you don't trust 'mainstream' media organization. You believe smaller/less established sources instead. That's your choice. But it does mean that you choose to view the world in a different way than most. I don't think you should be surprised when people disagree with you or refuse to accept your statements as fact.

Also, when you don't even want to reveal those smaller/less established sources, it makes it look like you are ashamed of them somehow. If you truly believe in them, why not let us see?

 

[Rightguide]

And how many people must daily analyze this data? 100,000?

It's huge. You can’t meaningfully “analyze all” the raw electronic data from Rivet Joint-class platforms with people alone, the data volume is too large. The system is human + machine: computers do the heavy lifting (detection, triage, pattern recognition), humans do the interpretation, validation, targeting, and context analysis. You can go here for more information:

https://www.nationalacademies.org/read/13040/chapter/3
https://www.l3harris.com/sites/defa...-RC-135-data-sheet.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/ra...81-1/RAND_RRA981-1.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

[Rightguide]

So basically you are saying that you don't trust 'mainstream' media organization. You believe smaller/less established sources instead. That's your choice. But it does mean that you choose to view the world in a different way than most. I don't think you should be surprised when people disagree with you or refuse to accept your statements as fact.

Also, when you don't even want to reveal those smaller/less established sources, it makes it look like you are ashamed of them somehow. If you truly believe in them, why not let us see?

The legacy media has been exposed as little more than an extension of the Democratic Party and the administrative state. From Russiagate to the Obama–Biden corruption scandals, the pattern is unmistakable: anything damaging to the Left gets massaged, minimized, or memory-holed. After ten years of selective reporting and political protection, the message should be obvious to anyone paying attention.

 

[LoneMilf]

The legacy media has been exposed as little more than an extension of the Democratic Party and the administrative state. From Russiagate to the Obama–Biden corruption scandals, the pattern is unmistakable: anything damaging to the Left gets massaged, minimized, or memory-holed. After ten years of selective reporting and political protection, the message should be obvious to anyone paying attention.

Do you have any sources supporting that?

 

[Rightguide]

Do you have any sources supporting that?

A quick search developed the following;

https://www.reddit.com//r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1nxuu0g?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.reddit.com//r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/1139tu6?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/w9fa7p

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0176268023000046?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_presidential_election?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.15476?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.reddit.com//r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1nxuu0g?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1nxuu0g/gallup_poll_sept_216_trust_in_media_at_new_low_of

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...and-social-media-sites-has-changed-over-time/

https://www.pew.org/en/trend/archiv...t-has-been-growing-for-decades-does-it-matter

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes...w-social-media-became-the-source-of-mistrust/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url...ved=0CBMQjRxqFwoTCPCb4fenuJEDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-...assails-fbi-leadership-media-enabling-hillary

I could go on...

 

[Rightguide]

And is there any evidence that this is the case for Venezuela (or Mexico)?

https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/...r-venezuelan-officials?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

[LoneMilf]

A quick search developed the following;

https://www.reddit.com//r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1nxuu0g?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.reddit.com//r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/1139tu6?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/w9fa7p

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0176268023000046?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_presidential_election?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.15476?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.reddit.com//r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1nxuu0g?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1nxuu0g/gallup_poll_sept_216_trust_in_media_at_new_low_of

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...and-social-media-sites-has-changed-over-time/

https://www.pew.org/en/trend/archiv...t-has-been-growing-for-decades-does-it-matter

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes...w-social-media-became-the-source-of-mistrust/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https://adfontesmedia.com/gallery/&psig=AOvVaw2F_JRXUpD1d1NzMF-v7D1p&ust=1765637910548000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBMQjRxqFwoTCPCb4fenuJEDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-...assails-fbi-leadership-media-enabling-hillary

I could go on...

I haven't gone through all of these, but a quick glance shows that they are mostly sources documenting how trust in the media is dropping. That's not the same as showing that the media is wrong.

This one is interesting though:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.15476?utm_source=chatgpt.com

As far as I can see, this is the only one of your sources that actually deals with the objectivity of the media and not just how it is perceived. While it does say that objectivity overall has been declining, it also says that "partisan outlets are the ones that most often use nonobjective quotatives"

So it seems it is still mainstream media that is the most trustworthy - even if they have gotten worse over the years.

 

[LoneMilf]

https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/...r-venezuelan-officials?utm_source=chatgpt.com

This is just an accusation - not evidence of any kind.

And by the way, using indictments of crimes as evidence of those crimes is a very dangerous path to take.

 

[DeluxAuto]

they are mostly sources documenting how trust in the media is dropping. That's not the same as showing that the media is wrong.

Critical thinking is his kryptonite. Be gentle.

 

[Chadrone]

So basically you are saying that you don't trust 'mainstream' media organization. You believe smaller/less established sources instead. That's your choice.

No, I'm saying your reality is built upon what the MSM tells you and you'll acknowledge nothing except what the MSM tells you.

But it does mean that you choose to view the world in a different way than most.

Yea, the MSM doesn't dictate my reality to me.

I don't think you should be surprised when people disagree with you or refuse to accept your statements as fact.

I'm not.

Also, when you don't even want to reveal those smaller/less established sources, it makes it look like you are ashamed of them somehow. If you truly believe in them, why not let us see?

Why would I wase my time with someone so brainwashed they literally can't google "Drug Cartels" or "US war on drugs" because it upsets their wine mom Ultra-Karen Commiecrat world view that the MSM built for them that only white people can do wrong and drugs aren't a real thing......what's the point??