Voter Fraud in New York Primary

[Ulaven_Demorte]

As long as everyone gets the same choice of the same options it does.

Voter ID doesn't block any minority group from voting. It inconveniences everyone equally. By every objective measure the law is in no way racist.

Now are there racist intentions in the origins of the law? Sure there are....but the law is not racist.

Play the game.....go get that ID...outvote them and put all the DMV's in the hood just for the lulz. As long as you don't make white men jump through any extra hoops, you're good! Manipulate it to your advantage. flip the script on them, quit fucking voting shitbags into office over and over and over again.


I only deleted the last part of that because I'm lost it made no sense to me.

Except it DOESN'T inconvenience everyone equally, see Alabama and their closure of DMV offices in all predominantly black areas. It's been shown by study after study to disproportionately affect minorities, the elderly, and college students. This was intentionally aimed specifically at thes groups of voters in order to stop them from voting because they vote primarily for Democrats.

If a law has it's roots in racism and discrimination then it is racist and discriminatory by definition.

Play the game? Without being able to vote because the other team has made it near impossible to obtain the necessary ID to vote? How are they supposed to affect any change? Wish on a star?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Originally Posted by Sean Renaud View Post

Voter ID is racist.

I hear this all the time but I don't see how a long as EVERYONE is required to produce the same standard of ID and the state provided at least one of them (so no poll tax).

At that point the only people it would discriminate against are ones who really don't give a fuck in the first place.

And that's not racist. Not any more racist than saying you need ID to buy booze.

For a change, agree with BB. I have also read clams it is more difficult for black voters to obtain ID cards than it is for white voters. That's a crock. For one thing, the cities, where most government offices are, are inhabited disproportionately by black people, who can walk, bus or bike to the DMV or other place to obtain their voter ID card. It is not as simple for rural or suburban inhabitants, who often live many miles farther away.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Over the last few years that has been proven completely false. Hell just this year Arizona shut like 70% of it's voting in Hispanic areas. Complete coincidence I'm sure.

 

[hashtag45]

Fuck you, you Stalin cock sucking faggot!

tss tss… you got it wrong, my friend.
Wasn't Stalin the one who re-criminalized homosexuality?

By the same logic -but applying it correctly, this time- shouldn't YOU be the one to suck some rich man's cock?

 

[hashtag45]

As expected of a progressive shit like yourself, a totally incoherent non-point.

Why? What I said makes a lot of sense.

Stalin was a homophobe apparently, so in all likelihood he wouldn't have allowed anyone to "suck his cock". Straight to the Gulag for them if they even tried..

More likely that one of the rich people and billionaires from today (when attitudes are more relaxed re sexual matters) would allow such debauchery (aka for you to suck their cock). And they would even pay you for your service - cuz they encourage private enterprises. As opposed to communists like Stalin, who didn't like private initiative..

 

[sr71plt]

So Trumps' kids (despite currently being unregistered) might get to vote after all?
Ha! At least Australia doesn't have such an arcane law.

What arcane law?

No, they didn't get to vote in the New York primary because they failed to register there in the first place. You have to have registered as a voter in that precinct beforehand to vote. You don't get more than one vote. You have to zero in on a single precinct you can vote in and that's handled by preregistration. What's arcane about that? (One of Trumps' sons, Erick, lives full time here, in my town in Virginia. Why would he register to vote in New York at all?)

If they'd shown up to the polling place and insisted, they could have filled out a provisional ballot. But provisional ballots then go to the election commission and are assessed individually as to whether they meet the criteria. If the voter then presents an ID verifying they are who they say they are and were registered, their vote counts. In the case of Trumps' boys, they didn't register. They have no standing to vote. They aren't registered voters.

I really don't understand the failure to see that you shouldn't have to show that you are the registered voter to vote in the name of that registered voter. It in itself has nothing to do with racism. It's just plain common sense. That it's used n combination with other hoops to jump through to prevent voting might be done for racist intent, but that particular aspect of voting is just plain common sense.

And, again, what arcane law? There's nothing arcane about that law. In the United States you can chose to vote or not. As I understand it, in Australia you are forced to vote and are fined if you don't. That's not just arcane. That draconian. You still have to register to just one precinct, don't you? Or can you run around willy nilly all over the country voting everywhere you can reach in one day?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Except it DOESN'T inconvenience everyone equally,

Then show me the minorities only DMV on the moon, or the extra paperwork that minorities fill out that white males don't.

Separate lines for minorities?

Or do the minorities have to go to the same offices, fill out the same paperwork and stand in the same lines as white males?

If a law has it's roots in racism and discrimination then it is racist and discriminatory by definition.

No that's your emotional bullshit.

Play the game? Without being able to vote because the other team has made it near impossible to obtain the necessary ID to vote? How are they supposed to affect any change? Wish on a star?

It's not near impossible, it's a pain in the ass. There is a big diffrence you know.

They can go down to the DMV and get their ID just like all the white folks.

 

[sr71plt]

They can go down to the DMV and get their ID just like all the white folks.

Well, when they register to vote, they should be provided registration cards--which also give where they vote and what precincts/congressional districts they're in. That should take care of it. If they registered, they would have a card to show as ID. If they didn't, they can't vote anyway.

It could be that some states don't provide these cards--that's where one should start looking for discriminatory practice.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well, when they register to vote, they should be provided registration cards--which also give where they vote and what precincts/congressional districts they're in. That should take care of it. If they registered, they would have a card to show as ID. If they didn't, they can't vote anyway.

It could be that some states don't provide these cards--that's where one should start looking for discriminatory practice.

That would be one way to handle/look at it.

But some states what ID to vote, and as long as they are 'free' (no poll tax) and everyone has to stand in the same line/building and meet the same standards there is nothing racist/discriminatory about it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

We could register everybody to vote, link it to your SSN and address so you vote in local politics regardless of your physical location and call it a day. But that would be too simple.

Hell at least one nation has completely computerized it.

 

[DooleyDarter]

Democrats Creed- Vote early vote often

 

[sr71plt]

We could register everybody to vote, link it to your SSN and address so you vote in local politics regardless of your physical location and call it a day. But that would be too simple.

Hell at least one nation has completely computerized it.

It would have to be connected to a central master computer file that would register when you voted the one time you permitted to vote and then closed you down--and wouldn't that, especially since it included your SSN, be a goldmine for computer hackers?

 

[sr71plt]

Democrats Creed- Vote early vote often

Why is that a Democrats' creed more than a Republican one? Other than your prejudice, I mean.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Originally Posted by Ulaven_Demorte View Post

Play the game? Without being able to vote because the other team has made it near impossible to obtain the necessary ID to vote? How are they supposed to affect any change? Wish on a star?

It's not near impossible, it's a pain in the ass. There is a big diffrence you know.

They can go down to the DMV and get their ID just like all the white folks.

It's actually at least as easy for minority people to register to vote as it is for white people. Both groups can go to City Hall or the DMV or other public office, and minorities, who are concentrated in larger cities, usually live closer to such places. Besides that, they can take public transportation, which is not as easy for those who live in suburbia or rural areas. Anybody who is eligible to vote but is not registered just doesn't care very much.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Why is that a Democrats' creed more than a Republican one? Other than your prejudice, I mean.

Because the big city machines, such as in Chicago and NY, are usually run by Dems. They are the one who do the cheating.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It would have to be connected to a central master computer file that would register when you voted the one time you permitted to vote and then closed you down--and wouldn't that, especially since it included your SSN, be a goldmine for computer hackers?

Anybody who REALLY wants your information is going to get it. We'd have better luck putting protections in place to make that information harder to utilize than stressing constantly about the bad guys getting it.

For the other 99% of computer thieves they are just casting wide nets and waiting for morons. Seriously if .000001% of people who get various emails about "please sign into your account we have detected fraudlent activity" do so that's still a few million.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We could register everybody to vote, link it to your SSN and address so you vote in local politics regardless of your physical location and call it a day. But that would be too simple.

Hell at least one nation has completely computerized it.

That would be easy, there is no reason in the world with our advances our political system is still stuck in the Pony Express era...other than 'the establishment' is using it to make that kind of change exceedingly difficult.

It would have to be connected to a central master computer file that would register when you voted the one time you permitted to vote and then closed you down--and wouldn't that, especially since it included your SSN, be a goldmine for computer hackers?

Not anymore than other sensitive gubbmint/corporate data mines.

 

[sr71plt]

Because the big city machines, such as in Chicago and NY, are usually run by Dems. They are the one who do the cheating.

So you've let yourself be indoctrinated to believe.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Originally Posted by Ulaven_Demorte View Post







It's actually at least as easy for minority people to register to vote as it is for white people. Both groups can go to City Hall or the DMV or other public office, and minorities, who are concentrated in larger cities, usually live closer to such places. Besides that, they can take public transportation, which is not as easy for those who live in suburbia or rural areas. Anybody who is eligible to vote but is not registered just doesn't care very much.

Tell that to the black voter in Alabama that has to take a day off from work and travel two counties over to Joe-Bob McWhiteson's county in order to find a DMV that's actually open to get the required ID. Meanwhile Joe-Bob has had his ID since 10 minutes after the place opened and has gone to work.

Yeah, just as easy..

 

[Boxlicker101]

Originally Posted by Boxlicker101 View Post

Because the big city machines, such as in Chicago and NY, are usually run by Dems. They are the one who do the cheating.

So you've let yourself be indoctrinated to believe.

No, I've learned to read newspapers and history books.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Tell that to the black voter in Alabama that has to take a day off from work and travel two counties over to Joe-Bob McWhiteson's county in order to find a DMV that's actually open to get the required ID. Meanwhile Joe-Bob has had his ID since 10 minutes after the place opened and has gone to work.

Yeah, just as easy..

Instead of doing that, I will ask why they didn't stop in the local city hall or county courthouse, where they could have done it instead. Are these licensed drivers, BTW? Are you sure Joe-Bob didn't have to drive in from his farm twenty miles outside of town?

 

[Real_American17]

Instead of doing that, I will ask why they didn't stop in the local city hall or county courthouse, where they could have done it instead. Are these licensed drivers, BTW? Are you sure Joe-Bob didn't have to drive in from his farm twenty miles outside of town?

Ulaven_Demorte like all progressive/SJWs is a racist and does not care about any white person's hardships. They put blacks above nearly any other thing, except Muslims and Trannies.

Nothing you say is going to change his opinion on the topic.

 

[hashtag45]

lol…

 

[Real_American17]

lol…

Hey faggot, you still trolling?

 

[hashtag45]

He. faggot, you still trolling?

You're actually right on the second one lol...
Leaving aside the fact that, according to your logic, even your dog or your parents must be "faggots".