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on the one hand, wagner's supposedly out to take the 2 generals for the attack on their camp... but if they believe putin personally ordered, or ok'd the attack? is it more likely the group plan on taking over leadership of the military whilst retaining putin as the country's leader? i don't know what to think, given putin's orders for preg's arrestI don't think he will.
But right wing Twitter keeps telling me about his neo Nazi ness and how he's worse...lol
My guess is that Putin quit sending money to Preg weeks ago after Preg started mouthing off about the Russian army. Preg was right, of course, but then he was faced with no funds. In his battle fatigue he thought he could take over command of the Russian army.i don't know what to think, given putin's orders for preg's arrest
I think he'll end up not at home in the end.He gets to go home...and gets to take his men. This only leaves Chechnian forces to fight his war.
Putin will have to kill him...but that will leave 25,000 pissed off followers. They already feel betrayed. They will never fight for Russia.I think he'll end up not at home in the end.
duplicate threadLooks like Putin's hired goons are turning on him
https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...rebellion-russian-military/story?id=100335756
Wagner mercenary chief calls for armed rebellion against Russian military leadership
Nopeduplicate thread
Yah, there's two thoughts I've seen out there. One is that this isn't the end of the story and the second is that Prigozhin isn't long for this world.Pootin letting Prigozhin go to Belarus... He will either be found dead of poison or thrown out a window. Typical ruski MO.
The US said they knew something was up days before. US intelligence is so good they know what's happening before Pootin.
This is a real possibility. Nothing Pregozhin complained about was wrong. The Russian military is run by incompetent morons. This outcome saves Putin's face at home because they know nothing about really happened.Another thought. Belarus' army is a band of idjits due to poor training and equipment. Essentially useless for Pooter to use to attack UKr from there. Prego could be useful in training them for future use.
There is news coming out that many Wagner forces are pissed at the deal and are leaving the group.This is a real possibility. Nothing Pregozhin complained about was wrong. The Russian military is run by incompetent morons. This outcome saves Putin's face at home because they know nothing about really happened.
I know what is coming out of Moscow...but I don't see the majority of Wagner forces signing with the Russian military. They too have seen the incompetence. There were only 2 fighting forces worthy of respect in Russia. That was Wagner and the Chechnians.
The one thing Putin could never have happen was to be challenged the way he was.
His odds to be assassinated just went up a lot
The top Russian military leader who is believed to have known in advance about the weekend’s mutiny has been arrested — and security services have him “by the balls,” according to a local report.
The Kremlin on Thursday again refused to discuss the whereabouts of Gen. Sergei Surovikin, 56, who has not been seen since the weekend revolt by his close ally, Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...p&cvid=49b8dda24aab49ab94ad7f9a5a967b1a&ei=63However, two sources close to Russia’s Defense Ministry confirmed to the Moscow Times that the one-time military leader of the Ukraine war has been arrested, with one saying his situation is “not OK.”
“Apparently, he [Surovikin] chose Prigozhin’s side during the uprising, and they’ve gotten him by the balls,” one of the sources said.