Walker Has No College Degree...

[Ulaven_Demorte]

According to your bio, you were born in 1967, and would have been in your early twenties when the Cold War with the USSR ended.

Correct, and we had a Pershing II nuclear missile presence in Europe until the early 90's when the INF treaty went into full effect. That would put me in my mid-20's, 24 to be exact.
I was in Berlin watching the wall be torn down.

Your point?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Correct, and we had a Pershing II nuclear missile presence in Europe until the early 90's when the INF treaty went into full effect. That would put me in my mid-20's, 24 to be exact.
I was in Berlin watching the wall be torn down.

Your point?

I just find it exceedingly hard to believe a callow youth such as you were then would have been in such a sensitive position:

I was a nuclear materiel specialist for the Pershing II missile system. I was and am intimately familiar with nuclear warheads, cryptography, launch procedures, targeting coordinates, etc. I spent three years with my finger resting on figurative "button" that would have triggered global thermonuclear war.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

I just find it exceedingly hard to believe a callow youth such as you were then would have been in such a sensitive position:

I was a nuclear materiel specialist for the Pershing II missile system. I was and am intimately familiar with nuclear warheads, cryptography, launch procedures, targeting coordinates, etc. I spent three years with my finger resting on figurative "button" that would have triggered global thermonuclear war.

You can find it hard to believe if you want, dumbass. You're aware that the military routinely recruits smart young people to run their nuclear program right? Were you under the impression that our nuclear weapons were being operated by crippled old men? Were you under the impression that there was an age limit for nuclear weapons techs, cryptographers, and launch coordinators? I also carried a Top Secret security clearance with CTSA access (you can look that up).

I can assure you that you have exactly zero fucking clue.

 

[Busybody]

Our own You DEE playing with fearsome rockets

http://www.herbalistmanifesto.com/herbs/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/RocketBoy.jpg

 

[sr71plt]

The point for me is that a young technician sitting in a missile silo somewhere in the States doesn't mean they know zilch about the North Korean nuclear weapons program. Tit for Tit, I was editor of the NPIC Strategic Arms Control Quarterly in the mid 80s and pretty much knew what country had what and who it was supplied by. The bottom line in this particular discussion is that the Soviets didn't put nuclear weapons in North Korea and were apoplectic that the North Koreans developed them on their own (although with the help of nuclear reactor technology brought in by the Soviets in 1963 meant just for power plants).

 

[Busybody]

The point for me is that a young technician sitting in a missile silo somewhere in the States doesn't mean they know zilch about the North Korean nuclear weapons program. Tit for Tit, I was editor of the NPIC Strategic Arms Control Quarterly in the mid 80s and pretty much knew what country had what and who it was supplied by. The bottom line in this particular discussion is that the Soviets didn't put nuclear weapons in North Korea and were apoplectic that the North Koreans developed them on their own (although with the help of nuclear reactor technology brought in by the Soviets in 1963 meant just for power plants).

The CHIEF bitch slapped You Dee real good

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

The point for me is that a young technician sitting in a missile silo somewhere in the States doesn't mean they know zilch about the North Korean nuclear weapons program. Tit for Tit, I was editor of the NPIC Strategic Arms Control Quarterly in the mid 80s and pretty much knew what country had what and who it was supplied by. The bottom line in this particular discussion is that the Soviets didn't put nuclear weapons in North Korea and were apoplectic that the North Koreans developed them on their own (although with the help of nuclear reactor technology brought in by the Soviets in 1963 meant just for power plants).

Pershing II was not in a silo and not based in the states.
Someone who was editor of the NPIC Strategic arms Control Quarterly that knows who had what and where should probably know that.

 

[sr71plt]

Pershing II was not in a silo and not based in the states.
Someone who was editor of the NPIC Strategic arms Control Quarterly that knows who had what and where should probably know that.

Not really. A., it's minutia (in keeping with what your place in the whole spectrum of this probably was), and B. We weren't monitoring ourselves. What the U.S. was doing had no part of the monitoring represented by the Strategic Arms Control Quarterly.

But I guess you'll just continue on with this nonsense. It means squat in what the North Koreans have now and it doesn't make you a bit smarter on this subject than you obviously are.

 

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

I was an assembly and test inspector, working on the disassembly, assembly, testing, installation, of the LOX tank boil off valve and the various actuators, valves, and solenoids that controlled it. We worked between the clean room and the missile docks at the General Dynamics Astronautics plant in San Diego, Point Loma Atlas Test Site, the Sycamore Canyon Test Site, and offsite at the Vandenburg Air Force Base Atlas test site in Lompoc Ca.

The Liquid OXygen fueled missiles were problematic for field use because of the logistics involved. They were suitable for stationary platforms, silos, or CAS sites but pretty much useless for mobile tactical applications. They simply took far too long to ready for launch.

A Redstone battalion included 20 heavy vehicles. After reaching a launch site operators took eight hours to survey, assemble the missile, mount it on the launch table, align the inertial navigation system, and go through final pre-flight checks. Once a launch order was given, it took another 15 minutes to fill the oxidizer tank with cryogenic liquid oxygen before the missile could be launched.

The solid booster stages used in the Pershing I & II were a lot less trouble than their liquid fueled predecessor the Redstone. We dragged those things all over Germany without a care in the world and could be ready to fire within an hour if the missile wasn't fully assembled with the warhead in place, minutes if we were on a CAS site in QRA status.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

You should be smart enough to produce the proof that the NKs had nuclear weapons in the 50s and 60s as you stated. I called you on it, and you have yet to prove it. You provided your own self serving analysis but no proof, just like you do when you claim I'm a racist, but cannot prove it except with fanciful constructions made up out of whole cloth. Typical of our own UD.

Once again.
I called you a bigot, a misogynist, a homophobe, an ageist, and an enabler of racist fucksticks like BusyDummy and JamesBJohnson, but not a racist.

Not that I think that's a very big distinction mind you.

But do go on stamping your feet.

 

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

As you do when your integrity is under scurrilous unwarranted attack.

You're taking umbrage at an attack I have not made.

The ones I HAVE made are easily demonstrable using your post history and so are neither scurrilous nor unwarranted.

You routinely engage in bigoted, homophobic, ageist, and misogynistic behaviors and enable the blatant racism displayed by BusyDummy and Co. by torturing the meaning of free speech to mean that an individual can't comment on another person's egregiously bad behavior without trampling their rights.

 

[sr71plt]

None of this, of course, has a thing to do with either the Soviet or the North Korean nuclear weapons programs.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

None of this, of course, has a thing to do with either the Soviet or the North Korean nuclear weapons programs.

Which was a tangent from the thread topic anyway.

So?

 

[sr71plt]

Your "whose is bigger" discussion is a tangent away from the thread? And you started these tangents anyway?

 

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

Your "whose is bigger" discussion is a tangent away from the thread? And you started these tangents anyway?

You must not frequent Vetteman threads.

They more often than not (meaning always) devolve into isolated blurt threads somewhere around page 2, after the opening post and concept of the thread has been shown to be completely off base.

Walker was the original topic, and his lack of a college degree. Vetteman erroneously stated that the first President to have a college degree was Woodrow Wilson. This was disproved on page one, post #4 when 15 Presidents prior to Woodrow Wilson were shown to have college degrees.

Walker's problem isn't a lack of college education, or even his vocal distaste for those that do have a higher education. His real problem is the whack-a-doodle economic policies he enacted in Wisconsin. One only has to compare their recovery (or lack thereof) to neighboring Missouri, who started off in much the same economic state as Wisconsin when Walker took the reigns there.

After the Great Recession both states faced some pretty daunting problems: high unemployment, huge deficits, and a sluggish economy. At its most dire, Wisconsin’s unemployment rate was 9.2% and the state was facing a $3.6 billion budget deficit. At the same time, Minnesota was dealing with 8.3% unemployment and a $2.6 billion deficit. Both pretty fucked up economically.

Wisconsin under Scott Walker cut education, cut healthcare, cut wages for state employees, cut services for the needy, increased taxes on the poor, and cut taxes for the rich. And after all that cutting, Wisconsin’s budget deficit is now in the billions. Wisconsin trails Minnesota in job growth, employment, and wages. All this while Democrats in Minnesota balanced its budget, increased spending on those services that Wisconsin cut, significantly reduced the tax burden for the middle class on two separate occasions, and is now looking at a $1.5 billion budget surplus for 2015.

 

[Sean Renaud]

There is no torturing of the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law..." In America people can say what they want. Black people use the N word all day long, yet I've never seen or heard your condemnation of those Americans. BTW, "bigoted, homophobic, ageist, and misogynistic" are all lame judgments you've placed on my posts. They have nothing to do with actual reality. It is not my job to police the Forum, and if it was, not a single word I could post would stop any of it from happening. I enable no one. Every liberal here posts in BB's threads, you've done just as much to further his career as anyone else has. Time has proven what you cannot accept, BB will post his strongly held beliefs no matter what anybody thinks. My advice is to put him on IGGY, and me as well if you're offended.

And black people using the N word is not remotely the same no matter how badly racist whites want to make it one.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

There is no torturing of the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law..." In America people can say what they want. Black people use the N word all day long, yet I've never seen or heard your condemnation of those Americans. BTW, "bigoted, homophobic, ageist, and misogynistic" are all lame judgments you've placed on my posts. They have nothing to do with actual reality. It is not my job to police the Forum, and if it was, not a single word I could post would stop any of it from happening. I enable no one. Every liberal here posts in BB's threads, you've done just as much to further his career as anyone else has. Time has proven what you cannot accept, BB will post his strongly held beliefs no matter what anybody thinks. My advice is to put him on IGGY, and me as well if you're offended.

The 2nd Amendment applies to the government, it does not prevent a private citizen from calling out the hateful speech of another person. Calling out another person for using hateful racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc... speech is not impinging on their free speech as you have claimed when called on this in the past. THAT is you torturing the meaning of free speech.

You obviously missed out on that fact that I called out my brother in law (who happens to be black) for using "ni__er" as a slur to describe black people who's behavior of which he disapproved. The thread is still around here somewhere. LeJackass accused me of "sock-puppetry" and not having a black brother-in-law in order to use the word. You can look it up if you wish.

It's not just MY assessments of your posts no matter how much you want to fool yourself into thinking so. It's not your job to police the forum, but it is your job to cultivate the reputation and image you wish to maintain here. If you don't want to be seen as the things I've described in you then you should take a good long look at your behavior and post history.

You totally enable BusyDummy's and JamesBRacist's behavior by interacting with them as if they are anything other than a hateful pieces of shit. I have the idiot on ignore, I don't enable his bullshit by pretending that he's performance art or that it's his right to be a douche-nozzle without saying anything because "Freedumb of Speech"

On the flip side I have called out Rob's behavior repeatedly with regards to dragging other people's children into his personal vendettas and other various objectionable behavior.

I walk the fucking walk, bigot.
THAT is integrity.

Hiding behind a tortured, concocted idea free speech meaning it's not your job to say anything because it's their right to be abusive fucks is not integrity, it's fucking cowardice.

 

[sr71plt]

You must not frequent Vetteman threads.

Yes, I frequented enough Vetteman threads to have put him on ignore (taking him off to see what you two where slugging at each other with handbags over). That doesn't change my reaction to your posts on this thread. Why should it?

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

And black people using the N word is not remotely the same no matter how badly racist whites want to make it one.

I disagree.

I think it's just as bad for a black person to use an ethnic slur against another black person as it is for anyone else.

A slur is a slur. Trying to "take it back" is bullshit.