WHAT year is this again?

[Epheme]

Even the horse looks embarrassed.

 

[Kantarii]

Alexa, what year is this?

 

[colddiesel]

This thread is absurd. The officers actions were entirely reasonable particularly considering that the arrested man was an habitual criminal. The only complaint should be against the police chief for failing to give them the support they deserved.

Ask yourself this. How would you arrest the guy and keep control of the horse?

 

[Hal9000_]

This thread is absurd. The officers actions were entirely reasonable particularly considering that the arrested man was an habitual criminal. The only complaint should be against the police chief for failing to give them the support they deserved.

Ask yourself this. How would you arrest the guy and keep control of the horse?

Ahem.

No one gives two farts about facts,


It's all about the photo emotion.

 

[moarBB]

This thread is absurd. The officers actions were entirely reasonable particularly considering that the arrested man was an habitual criminal. The only complaint should be against the police chief for failing to give them the support they deserved.

Ask yourself this. How would you arrest the guy and keep control of the horse?

~agreed

time to stand up for cops AGAINST criminals

 

[magicalmoments]

NIGGERS always need to BITCH about something

Always had the impression that you are a black woman Bridget. Your posts read as though you're a black woman.

 

[BotanyBoy]

This thread is absurd.

Ahem.

No one gives two farts about facts,


It's all about the photo emotion.

100%.....that's how mounted operations work, just because mounted policing is old school and the visual evokes a bunch of emotions from the perpetually offended/outraged/victimized.... doesn't make it wrong.

If the cops had a legit reason for taking the suspect into custody stfu you're being dumb.

 

[moarBB]

The Ferguson Effect

 

[jaF0]

Calif. town agrees to desegregate schools after AG's findings
SFGate|2 hours ago
Just two taxpayer-funded schools serve the quaint town of Sausalito, California: There's a charter school where a plurality of the students are white, and a traditional district school where almost no one is. That's no accident, according to California's ..

 

[Conager]

The reporters name is John Wayne

Partially true. His full name us John Wayne "Turd" Ferguson.

 

[jaF0]

Indiana lawmaker under fire for posting noose picture
StarTribune|5 minutes ago
INDIANAPOLIS — An Indiana lawmaker who posted nooses under a Facebook story about a black man pleading guilty to rape is drawing criticism for using acist imagery. Republican state Rep. Jim Lucas, from Seymour, posted a picture of a gallows with two ...

http://www.startribune.com/indiana-lawmaker-under-fire-for-posting-noose-picture/551950292/

 

[RobDownSouth]

This thread is absurd. The officers actions were entirely reasonable particularly considering that the arrested man was an habitual criminal. The only complaint should be against the police chief for failing to give them the support they deserved.

Ask yourself this. How would you arrest the guy and keep control of the horse?

Ahem.

No one gives two farts about facts,


It's all about the photo emotion.

It's all about public perception. Galveston Texas is a tourist town. They have a beach strip and an aging downtown pier district where two cruise ships berth. On cruise days there are huge crushes of people. The city fathers of Galveston have tried to do a good job gentrifying the downtown pier district, froo froo coffee shops, small plate restaurants, art galleries, etc. They've renovated older hotels and pushed hard for cruise goers to spend the night there before cruises. They created mounted horseback cops to control the crowds especially at busy intersections.

There's no doubt that the evildoer was trespassing, he'd been warned before.

BUT....the police procedures specifically said that mounted officers who arrest someone were to call for a police vehicle for transport. For whatever reason, the mounted cops did not follow procedure, instead parading him 8 blocks through the crowded pier front to the police precinct in the middle of town.

The city fathers are pissed off, the police chief is pissed off that procedures were not followed. The stupid actions of the mounted cops gave the city a huge public relations black eye at a time when every tourist dollar counts.

I seriously doubt those officers will be riding horses for the police force again anytime soon.

 

[Shelly2inme]

Lets sprinkly sugar on it

Crime is out of control around the world. Treating criminals and criminal suspects as if they are criminals or criminal suspects makes those trying to protect civilization look like they are the bad-guy, and the bad guy is a poor innocent victim. So, maybe if criminals and criminal suspects were taken into custody in a limo with free cookies and milk they would become wonderful citizens.

Of course people should always be treated humanely and viewed as innocent until proven guilty. But we should all be grateful that police are willing to go to work in the morning knowing that they may never come home. A little less sympathy for the Devil and more respect and appreciation for law enforcement would be a refreshing change. Expecting police to treat all the creeps and thugs on the street with sugar sprinkles is part of the problem.

 

[jaF0]

Texas School Officials Accused of Coloring Black Student's Head

A black student claims in a federal lawsuit that white administrators at his Texas junior high school humiliated him and violated his civil rights by coloring in a stylized line in his haircut with a black Sharpie.

 

[butters]

and they get off with it. quelle surprise.

their bosses, though, are not happy and state they should have waited for transportation and NOT led a man through the streets on the end of a rope.

 

[butters]

hell, even if they'd handcuffed the trespasser to one of their stirrups as they rode would have made for better optics than the rope. of course, one officer could even have handcuffed his own wrist to the man and walked alongside him whilst leading his horse but the fact they choose this route is a disgrace and designed to reduce a man to the level of a beast.

 

[Wrong Element]

It's all about public perception. Galveston Texas is a tourist town. They have a beach strip and an aging downtown pier district where two cruise ships berth. On cruise days there are huge crushes of people. The city fathers of Galveston have tried to do a good job gentrifying the downtown pier district, froo froo coffee shops, small plate restaurants, art galleries, etc. They've renovated older hotels and pushed hard for cruise goers to spend the night there before cruises. They created mounted horseback cops to control the crowds especially at busy intersections.

There's no doubt that the evildoer was trespassing, he'd been warned before.

BUT....the police procedures specifically said that mounted officers who arrest someone were to call for a police vehicle for transport. For whatever reason, the mounted cops did not follow procedure, instead parading him 8 blocks through the crowded pier front to the police precinct in the middle of town.

The city fathers are pissed off, the police chief is pissed off that procedures were not followed. The stupid actions of the mounted cops gave the city a huge public relations black eye at a time when every tourist dollar counts.

I seriously doubt those officers will be riding horses for the police force again anytime soon.

The positive thing is that the chief immediately recognized that yeah, this was a massive fuckup. I imagine that helped.

My own impression of race relations in Galveston, as someone who has been there a few times, is that it's not especially tense — it's a beach community, after all, with a long history of folks having had to cooperate to keep above water, metaphorically and occasionally literally — but it's still the South, with the levels of segregation that implies. If you never leave the more touristy parts, you could get the impression that it's an overwhelmingly white city, and that ain't so.

 

[lustatopia]

https://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_19ec0d17-b4a6-5717-90b7-e4decbab9078.html


These two need to be fired immediately and stripped of their certifications and pensions.

Yeah, that's rawl bad optics, son, especially in the deep South. Raawl bad.

I'm willing to bet it was done entirely innocently by totally clueless cops who were paying more attention to their iPhones than the possible historical context in which what they were doing could be later framed.

Plus, mounted cops, in my experience, tend to be arrogant. Something about putting an law officer on a horse turns him into a Roman centurion.

Still, this is why the media sucks. There just isn't enough honest to goodness old fashion hate-based racist incidents for reporters to meet their quotas. So they got go out looking for optical illusions of racism. It's the next best thing. Kind of like decaf coffee with soy milk.

 

[ishtat]

It's all about public perception. Galveston Texas is a tourist town. They have a beach strip and an aging downtown pier district where two cruise ships berth. They created mounted horseback cops to control the crowds especially at busy intersections.

There's no doubt that the evildoer was trespassing, he'd been warned before.

BUT....the police procedures specifically said that mounted officers who arrest someone were to call for a police vehicle for transport. For whatever reason, the mounted cops did not follow procedure, instead parading him 8 blocks through the crowded pier front to the police precinct in the middle of town.

The city fathers are pissed off, the police chief is pissed off that procedures were not followed. The stupid actions of the mounted cops gave the city a huge public relations black eye at a time when every tourist dollar counts.

I seriously doubt those officers will be riding horses for the police force again anytime soon.

This is a really poor response without any regard for the facts. If you had made the slightest effort to research the issue you would have found:-

The mounted cops did call for transport. None was available. One of the cops knew the guy and that he had mental issues and they decided to take him to the lock up themselves.

In another event a different mounted cop also arrested two guys and took them to the lock up in the same way. But in this instance the cop was black and the prisoner white. Cue Outrage? Mebbe not.

It's not all about public perception; it's about public servants, the police in this case doing their jobs properly - which these cops did. Subsequent to these stories the local sentiment published in the Galveston paper has been that the cops did the right thing and have said as colddiesel suggested, that it's the Chief of Police and the city fathers that need a kick in the backside for trying to make political capital out of a reasonable response by police.

RDS you are usually better than this. All you had to do was read the Galveston papers report on the over reaction which was attached to the original article. Even the prisoner said the cops were ok!

 

[BizzaBizza]

Aside from everything else, there is a safety issue. While these horses are highly trained, there have been incidents where one has bolted. What happens to the cuffed suspect if that happens?

Neely, 43, has a history of arrests dating back to 1994, including six other criminal trespassing arrests this year, according to county court records, and as the horse bolts and he's lifted into the air, he instantly regrets the criminal life he has chosen as he gets dragged to his death.

Perhaps he should have followed the law.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The positive thing is that the chief immediately recognized that yeah, this was a massive fuckup. I imagine that helped.

My own impression of race relations in Galveston, as someone who has been there a few times, is that it's not especially tense — it's a beach community, after all, with a long history of folks having had to cooperate to keep above water, metaphorically and occasionally literally — but it's still the South, with the levels of segregation that implies. If you never leave the more touristy parts, you could get the impression that it's an overwhelmingly white city, and that ain't so.

You're absolutely right, and I've been to Galveston about a dozen times as well. Nobody got harmed, but the optics were terrible. And in the Age of Trump, it's "Optics Uber Alles".

The Hilton has a fantastic swim-up bar.

 

[colddiesel]

You're absolutely right, and I've been to Galveston about a dozen times as well. Nobody got harmed, but the optics were terrible. And in the Age of Trump, it's "Optics Uber Alles".

Piss weak diversion Rob. Trump's a cunt; that's a given, but you made an unjustified attack on the Cops and ishtat pinned you for it. Just own it and move on.

 

[mark_j]

That would be my thought since they were only going a block or so.

Aside from everything else, there is a safety issue. While these horses are highly trained, there have been incidents where one has bolted. What happens to the cuffed suspect if that happens?

The rope is held between the two mounted officers and passed through the perps arms. The rope is NOT tied to anything, it is simply held by the officers as they move. If at any point, if either one of the officers has to take control of the horse for any reason, the rope is simply dropped.

Granted, it is a very old technique, but done properly it is relatively safe for both the officers and the perp.

hell, even if they'd handcuffed the trespasser to one of their stirrups as they rode would have made for better optics than the rope.

Cuffing him to the stirrup would have been EXTREMELY dangerous. You can't release the stirrup very quickly and if something goes wrong you endanger the horse, the perp and the mounted officer.

 

[Hal9000_]

The rope is held between the two mounted officers and passed through the perps arms. The rope is NOT tied to anything, it is simply held by the officers as they move. If at any point, if either one of the officers has to take control of the horse for any reason, the rope is simply dropped.

Granted, it is a very old technique, but done properly it is relatively safe for both the officers and the perp.



Cuffing him to the stirrup would have been EXTREMELY dangerous. You can't release the stirrup very quickly and if something goes wrong you endanger the horse, the perp and the mounted officer.

I am still amazed at the deliberate disinformation. The "perp", or "suspect" was never tied directly to the horse.

Which seems obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense.

 

[butters]

The rope is held between the two mounted officers and passed through the perps arms. The rope is NOT tied to anything, it is simply held by the officers as they move. If at any point, if either one of the officers has to take control of the horse for any reason, the rope is simply dropped.

Granted, it is a very old technique, but done properly it is relatively safe for both the officers and the perp.



Cuffing him to the stirrup would have been EXTREMELY dangerous. You can't release the stirrup very quickly and if something goes wrong you endanger the horse, the perp and the mounted officer.

the fact is, one of the mounted officers could have taken control of the other horse whilst the other walked with the man. and photos do not bear out your suggestion that the rope is held between officers and through the perpetrator's arms:
[edit: oops, screen stretchers]
instead, the link to the page where you can access all the images proving the man was being led by one officer only, not at all in the manner you describe:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pho...Y6wKHbz2ANsQ_AUIESgB&biw=1920&bih=969#imgrc=_

and, yes, having lived around horses i realise that handcuffing to a stirrup could potentially be dangerous - my point was an extreme one to illustrate how even that would have provided better optics. of course, optics shouldn't be the first consideration, the safety of all people involved as the officers execute their job is paramount.