Who can clearly state the current Democrat position on Iraq?

Cap’n AMatrixca said:
Woods, you crack me up...

zip. I think they've reached a tentative deal on the oil. Where's the goalpost going to be moved to now?

None of this was an issue as long you had your civil war. When it evaporated, then this becomes an issue. When this proves to be much ado about nothing, what's the next play? We aren't distributing condoms to the schools?

LOL, I'm moving the goalposts? That's actually hysterical considering how the expectations for what constitutes "success" in Iraq have been downgraded year after year. And sorry, but you "thinking" they've reached a deal doesn't make it a fact. Your credibility ceased to have any value a long time ago.

I was calling for benchmarks in Iraq for a long time. It's all about accountability, a concept you can't seem to grasp.

But then again, truth doesn't matter to you does it, partisan boy.
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
When did we "win" the civil war?

Or did we lose the civil war?

How badly has the surge failed?

Why is Hillary saying she will stay in a quagmire for years to come?

Why aren't more Marines in jail?

Why is Dukakis so downbeat with 2008 all locked up and in the bag?

Isn't Hillary a lock, or is she just becoming a Bush sock-puppet like Leiberman?

The Democrat position is quite simple.

They were for the Iraq war when it was popular and everybody thought that America would win.

They are against the Iraq war now that it is unpopular and America has lost.

Funnily enough, that's exactly the same position that the mob . . . I'm sorry, I mean the electorate . . . have taken.

Coincidence or what !
 
vetteman said:
They might lead us to hell before they are through.

They won't have the chance.

Just saw that pathetic little fag of a draft dodger you voted for squealing about how everything's Iran's fault.

Can't be long until the strategic genius decides to join the dots of Afghanistan and Iraq by invading Iran.

Sooooooooooooooooooooo glad we got rid of Bush's bitch Blair in time to avoid that one.

:nana: :nana: :nana:
 
vetteman said:
You know Borscht, if there weren't at least ten good men in your country to feel guilty about I'd almost wish that when they did get that weapon that you were the first one served with it. Just keep thinking you can talk to these assholes and someday it will happen.

You don't need to wish.

The Iranians will get a nuclear weapon because their national survival requires it. After all, if they don't get nuked up, the odds are that America will attack them.

On the plus side, Iranians aren't the evil, orc-like subhumans that Israel and its stooges in the US claim they are.

I mean, why would any country start a nuclear war unless it was being over-run?
 
vetteman said:
You don't see it do you? Well fortunately for the rest of the world you don't have to because it isn't going to be allowed to happen.

That Borscht is looney is a given.

That Iran is not the most friendly regime to the Bush camp is, also.


I'm not so sure not the Great Republic getting bogged down with MORE ragheads is wise, at all. ;)
 
vetteman said:
You don't see it do you? Well fortunately for the rest of the world you don't have to because it isn't going to be allowed to happen.

Sure it will.

It's like Road Runner and Wiley Coyote.

Wiley Coyote's running for his dinner, whereas Road Runner's running for his life.

Bush and his advisors (being strategic geniuses, every one) have made it clear that, in order to survive, Iran has to get itself some nuclear weapons. Better to be North Korea and live of American Danegeld than to be Iraq and be attacked.

Nuking up ain't that tough to do, either. Fifty year old technology, an educated elite, Pakistan and North Korea routing for you . . . shit, if I had that kind of help and motivation I could get a nuke myself.

Luckily, by the time Iran has nukes, the Democrats will be in power, so you'll be able to blame them for the radioactive fruit Bush's foreign policy has produced.

The swine !
 
Jimi said:
That Borscht is looney is a given.

That Iran is not the most friendly regime to the Bush camp is, also.


I'm not so sure not the Great Republic getting bogged down with MORE ragheads is wise, at all. ;)

Nonsense.

Given that the best way to hide the failure to bag Bin Laden was to attack Iraq, what do you think the best way to hide failure in Iraq is ?

Like I said, I'm soooooooooooo happy we got rid of Bush's bitch Blair in time to escape the next escalation in American lunacy . . . I mean, foreign policy.

:D
 
vetteman said:
Might not have to, take out that nuke capability and destroy the monopoly on violence currently held by the Revolutionary Guard with air power, and let the Iranians themselves sort it out.

OK.

So, you think that the Iranian response to being bombed by a bunch of foreignors will be different to the American response to being bombed by a bunch of foreignors.

Why, exactly ?
 
vetteman said:
They were building their nuke capability long before Bush came along. The rest is laughing material.

Yeah well.

Like I said, it's fifty year old tech, and every KJ they produce by nuclear power is another X number of oil barrels they can export for hard currency.

Putting myself in the Iranian's place, though, I'd forget about civil nuclear power and put everything I had into accelerating the bomb building program.

It would be the only way to be safe.
 
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