Why Don't We Focus on Wealth Distribution in America?

[clistenovena]

We have 7.5 billion people on this planet. What about when we have 10 billion? Or 15 billion? What then?

They aren't pumping billions of dollars into exploring Mars for no good reason. Just saying.

But that was off topic. Back to tail chasing.

 

[Chris_Michael]

If you really believed that no lives matter you wouldnt be interested in solutions to economic inequality or religious extremism.

Way to strawman my point.

No lives matter in terms of nature. Nature does not have any prejudice. What we're doing by trying to save every single person on the planet from dying is counterintuitive to how natural selection works. So, if an old person has cancer and we just don't have the resources to perform the emergency surgery on them, well that's life.

That's not to say that we should pick and choose who deserves to live and who deserves to die. It's just saying that if life gives you an unfair hand, that is just how it is.

Seriously, looking at the figures of what Medicare pays out when a senior citizen makes it past the Donut Hole, it's just outright insane. To maintain these people, it can cost up to millions of dollars per day. That's ridiculous.

And if a doctor can see a child will be born with cerebral palsy or other terrible conditions, it should just be an abortion. Any mother who allows that child to be born should be fucking ashamed of herself.

 

[TheWhiteBull]

Way to strawman my point.

Chris, if we're going to continue spending all this time together in the same threads you're going to need to learn to recognize my sarcasm.

In seriousness though, pretty much in agreement.

 

[Chris_Michael]

Chris, if we're going to continue spending all this time together in the same threads you're going to need to learn to recognize my sarcasm.

In seriousness though, pretty much in agreement.

Oh lol my bad. I'm getting a taste of my own medicine as people tell me that they can never tell when I'm being sarcastic.

Nah but in all seriousness, I know very little in terms of American history, world history, economics, and politics. I only took core college classes, which were all very basic. So, when I try to make threads like these, I also like to make sure that people realize that I'm not trying to come across as an expert. I'm just saying what seems to make logical sense.

This would lead some to think I'm a Marxist. I've had this discussion with personal friends in the real world, and they say I'm definitely no Marxist. Some people think I want Socialism. Some think I want Communism.

I don't associate myself with any of that. All I make a stance on is that I look at the obvious problem and think that whatever we're doing is not working. The problem is that people then place me in with Republicans JUST BECAUSE I VOTED TRUMP. As if that makes any difference.

The worst thing is, I say "What can Democrats do to get in office?" and the responses are just shit talking Trump. You cannot get Liberals here on this forum to discuss their own party... and GOD FORBID anybody criticize the Democratic party. Because it's perfect as is, and the problem lies with the people who vote.

That's the fucking problem. These tribalistic idiots just have no way of discussing how to make Democrats electable. Ask them who's on the table for 2020. They're all too busy shitting on Trump to even think about it.

Seriously, it blows my mind. It's just unreal how personal they take this. It's like when kids in elementary school get so upset when another kid calls their momma fat. That's how these people are when you say ANYTHING about Clinton or the Democratic party.

How do things get better? Criticism.

Anyway, I'm going to sleep. I hope everybody has a great 4th. Stay safe on the roads. Later.

 

[TheWhiteBull]

That's the fucking problem. These tribalistic idiots just have no way of discussing how to make Democrats electable. Ask them who's on the table for 2020. They're all too busy shitting on Trump to even think about it.

Democrats are good at winning cultural battles and Republicans are good at winning political battles.

 

[magicalmoments]

Redistribution of wealth has been a hot topic for generations and none have got it right yet. Something seriously dramatic, of a global nature, is going to have to happen before it is addressed in a way that makes a difference to the 80%.

One of the key issues is the value placed on labor. Is it just for a worker to be rewarded with minimum wage when his employer is rewarded a thousandfold? If the employer could not find workers then he would lose his capital altogether and earn nothing. This dilemma is not likely to be addressed while there is a surplus of labour and a decreasing demand.

Another issue is govt subsidies to underperforming industries for political purposes. This is especially true in the agricultural industries in many western countries. Millions are paid every year to Farmers, for nothing. In a free market they should either make it on their own or go to the wall. It'd be a brave politician that cut the subsidies though.

Those who suggest redistribution of wealth are generally castigated as being socialist or Communist. However, one of the fastest things on Earth is a capitalist moving to the front of the queue when the govt is handing out grants and subsidies. Socialist when it suits them.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Aw, let's throw you a pity party. Are you being labeled, judged? Is someone calling you names, attributing things to you you don't believe?

Your every thread and post including this one is a complaint about "liberals" and "the left." Every one. Your entire pea brain is FIXATED on some fake group that doesn't even exist. You wake up in the morning to go see what "the liberals" are doing. You whine about "liberals" 24/7. You blame all your problems on them. You bitch constantly about the "Left" as if there is such a thing. You wake up and go to sleep and dream about "the left" every minute of your life.

Now poor little baby, aw, you're complaining about being labeled a "Republican" you poor hypocrite you.

The only person here OBSSESSED with "tribal" identity labels is you.

The problem is that people then place me in with Republicans JUST BECAUSE I VOTED TRUMP. As if that makes any difference.

Um, how the fuck are we supposed to know? You call them "tribalistic idiots" and them whine and complain that they don't have a pre-made, pre-approved candidate all queued up and ready to go four years from now? You whine about them being "tribal" and then bitch that they don't have a tribal identity all ready to consume for you to digest in one sound bite?

Ask them who's on the table for 2020.

1. You have it wrong. Trump is shitting on this country. Democrats are resisting it.
2. 99.99% of Democrats are average people going about their business. A teensy number of them are in positions to even think about candidates or even running themselves. Since none of us are in those positions, how the fuck would we know about candidates? Would you like me to e-mail Tom Perez on my speed dial and get him to join us on this forum?
3. I know you have yet to comprehend this, but you elected a President who is, you know, in office making policies that are affecting this country--that whole "governing" thing you know nothing about. You elected someone, and don't give a SHIT what he's doing. Instead, you're bitching about Democratic planning for 2020. At least the ones who are RESISTING Trump are paying attention to what your President is doing. You don't even know. You don't even care.
4. You elected a turd who did nothing but shit on Obama (the birther thing?) and then Hillary (Lock Her Up) to get into office. You elected the King of Shit Talk. He has no clue how to run the country, so now he's shitting on the media. That's the problem, not Democrats resisting Trump.

They're all too busy shitting on Trump to even think about it.

Personally, I don't respond to your blather about Hillary or Democrats because it's always right wing crap.

Seriously, it blows my mind. It's just unreal how personal they take this. It's like when kids in elementary school get so upset when another kid calls their momma fat. That's how these people are when you say ANYTHING about Clinton or the Democratic party.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Democrats are good at winning cultural battles and Republicans are good at winning political battles.

Yeah well, we're learning and we're starting to turn that one round too. Cycles, you know. Everything in its season. The snowflakes have had their time in the sun and now the meltdown has started. The balls rolling now.....

 

[Chris_Michael]

Aw, let's throw you a pity party. Are you being labeled, judged? Is someone calling you names, attributing things to you you don't believe?

Your every thread and post including this one is a complaint about "liberals" and "the left." Every one. Your entire pea brain is FIXATED on some fake group that doesn't even exist. You wake up in the morning to go see what "the liberals" are doing. You whine about "liberals" 24/7. You blame all your problems on them. You bitch constantly about the "Left" as if there is such a thing. You wake up and go to sleep and dream about "the left" every minute of your life.

Now poor little baby, aw, you're complaining about being labeled a "Republican" you poor hypocrite you.

The only person here OBSSESSED with "tribal" identity labels is you.



Um, how the fuck are we supposed to know? You call them "tribalistic idiots" and them whine and complain that they don't have a pre-made, pre-approved candidate all queued up and ready to go four years from now? You whine about them being "tribal" and then bitch that they don't have a tribal identity all ready to consume for you to digest in one sound bite?



1. You have it wrong. Trump is shitting on this country. Democrats are resisting it.
2. 99.99% of Democrats are average people going about their business. A teensy number of them are in positions to even think about candidates or even running themselves. Since none of us are in those positions, how the fuck would we know about candidates? Would you like me to e-mail Tom Perez on my speed dial and get him to join us on this forum?
3. I know you have yet to comprehend this, but you elected a President who is, you know, in office making policies that are affecting this country--that whole "governing" thing you know nothing about. You elected someone, and don't give a SHIT what he's doing. Instead, you're bitching about Democratic planning for 2020. At least the ones who are RESISTING Trump are paying attention to what your President is doing. You don't even know. You don't even care.
4. You elected a turd who did nothing but shit on Obama (the birther thing?) and then Hillary (Lock Her Up) to get into office. You elected the King of Shit Talk. He has no clue how to run the country, so now he's shitting on the media. That's the problem, not Democrats resisting Trump.



Personally, I don't respond to your blather about Hillary or Democrats because it's always right wing crap.

There's an underscore in my username.

 

[EmpressJosephine]

History shows that systems based on artificial redistribution of wealth ultimately fail.

As a very smart woman said:

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Here is the best sort of wealth distribution: People work hard, earn money, and buy things.

The problem has become that people with the confused ideas expressed by the originator of this thread have created whole sectors of society that believe they are entitled to money without having to work. Thus:

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What exactly would you call THIS? Because THIS is what we have. You think this is ideal? You think trillions of dollars in debt is successful?

Also, let me explain something. There's a REASON it's called the fucking WORKING POOR. They WORK. God, you act like these people just sit around doing nothing except smoking weed all day. I bet that's what you imagine, too. I bet you think everybody who's poor is just uneducated and worthless to society.

The middle class is shrinking. The money is in the pockets of the rich. HOW DO WE FIX THAT? Because ignoring it is stupid and you're not helping yourself unless you are in the top 20%.

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In actuality, I agree with every point you make above, especially those I have highlighted. I do not address them ad seriatim, but rather in order of increasing significance.

"I bet you think everybody who's poor is just uneducated and worthless to society."

I actually do NOT think this, but I can see how my previous post gave this impression. That was simply imprecise writing on my part. You are right. What I called "sectors of society that believe they are entitled to money without having to work" are actually a very small percentage of the poor. As an educator, I have worked quite extensively with both the urban and rural unemployed. Most of them do want to work, although in the last five to six years, many have lost hope.


"You think this is ideal? You think trillions of dollars in debt is successful?"

I agree. The USA's "trillions of dollars in debt" is a developing disaster. Please allow me to remind you that approximately half of that debt was incurred by the last Administration, a supposed friend of the poor. (It was also under the Obama Administration that workforce participation fell to its lowest level since women seriously entered the workforce in the early 1970s, again devastating the poor and middle class.) In actuality, the Obama presidency was the epitome of what caused not just the debt, but much of the income inequality that so concerns you. The primary cause of such economic imbalance is governmental interference in the marketplace. When the government can pick winners and losers, some people use their government connections to become fabulously rich.

Look at the other two periods in which the USA had such income inequality, the late Nineteenth Century and the late 1930s to early 1940s. In the former case, we saw the rise of the robber barons, who took advantage of preferential government contracts to build their financial empires. This was solved by the trust-busting Progressives restoring competition to the marketplace. In the latter, the New Deal and then rearmament benefited those businesses best connected with the FDR Administration and Congress. This was resolved by the post-war boom and the loosely regulated economic growth of the 1950s and 1960s. (While I specifically mention the Obama and FDR Administrations in this writing, please don't think this is just a problem of the Democrats; the Republicans are essentially as bad. Indeed, after the boom just mentioned, it was the Republican Nixon Administration that enacted the next round of disastrous economic "reforms.") The fact that it is during periods of major government interference in the economy that we see these problems develop that suggests the solution.


"HOW DO WE FIX THAT?"

I wish I remember who said it, but once while listening to a program discussing the problem of big business money influencing elections, a panelist remarked: "Take governmental interference out of business, and you'll get business interference out of government." While nibbling at details, you have not disputed my two major theses above: "History shows that systems based on artificial redistribution of wealth ultimately fail"; and "Here is the best sort of wealth distribution: People work hard, earn money, and buy things."

The best way to fix the problem of income inequality is for the government to get out of the way and let the competitive marketplace provide ordinary people the opportunity to work hard and accumulate wealth. In the current regulatory environment, the rich will get richer with little benefit to the poor because only already rich businesses can afford to navigate the maze of federal, state and local regulations. Likewise, only the already rich businesses can wield the necessary political influence to guarantee that when the government picks winners and losers, they are the winners. Note that the one sector of the economy where this is not the case is the tiny fraction of dot.com businesses that have made their creators rich in the relatively unregulated environment of the internet.

Of course, there are other things that would help the USA's economy, such as lowering the corporate tax rate to be competitive with the rest of the world, and returning to an emphasis on technical education for those for whom other post-secondary choices do not well fit. None the less, I'll repeat that the best wealth distribution happens when people work hard, earn money, and buy things. It is time for the government to get out of the way and let that happen again.

 

[Chris_Michael]

Okay, so I take back what I said about you thinking the poor are lazy. That's fine.

Now, I am the dumbest person when it comes to economics but when it comes to Corporate, I know they put money into the pockets of those who control our government. That is just something that is common knowledge unless I'm 100% wrong and I'm just dreaming here.

Sitting in on meetings at CVS/Pharmacy was a fucking nightmare. Maybe I was just super naive to think I wanted to help people as a pharmacist, but it was a huge shock to realize that we were scheming to milk the public as much as possible. We were fucking them in the ass. How do you give good customer service when your smile is the biggest scam in America?

I'm not talking about selling computers or cars. I'm not talking about being a restaurant manager. I'm talking about YOUR healthcare. The next time you get pissed off at a pharmacist, you can thank CORPORATE. They don't care.

There's the people who take money from the government artificially and then there is Corporate who takes money from the blue collar workers by force. I mean, it's not like a gun's being placed to their head but it's like "Oh you want your medication that keeps you alive? Give me an unreasonable amount of money per month. I don't care if you can't pay your other bills."

And guess what! There's no competition. You have Walgreens. You know what WAGS just did this past year? They merged with Rite Aid. Oh no... no they didn't. They were going to merge with Rite Aid and then abandoned the deal, leaving Rite aid with about half of their original stores. They stripped the competition to half of its stores.

You know CVS just did? They bought out Target Pharmacy. Any Target Pharmacy you go to is now CVS.

Again, we're not talking about groceries. We're not talking about products that you can live without. We're talking about massive Corporations taking out the competition and monopolizing the market. There's no way in hell that can be healthy for the economy.

HOWEVER, let's let that go. Let's just say that's the way a natural business is ran. Fine.

When lawmakers are having money poured into their pockets by these big fucking corporations, the law becomes run by CORPORATE. Take out government interference, and you have CORPORATE interference.

We need the government to STOP Corporate from running our country. We need checks in place to stop Corporate from getting involved in any way possible. That has to happen.

People seriously think my experiences with pharmacy is a joke, but I want every single person to rethink that the next time they see an outrageous cost on their meds. And for those who think the pharmaceutical industry is pumping out new innovative medications each year, you're wrong. It's copycat drugs being labeled with pretty pictures and nice commercials. Or they take 2 cheap medications, put them together in one pill, and then rebrand it.

Taking the government out is not always a good thing. The quotes you have shared have been how the government has been working for decades and we are in trillions of dollars of debt, with all of our currency on one end of the spectrum.

And the funniest thing is, it's just as artificial as you're making socialism out to be. How is our economy NOT artificial? Rich people paying rich people to make laws to make rich people more rich.

 

[HisArpy]

Okay, so I take back what I said about you thinking the poor are lazy.

~snip~

Taking the government out is not always a good thing. The quotes you have shared have been how the government has been working for decades and we are in trillions of dollars of debt, with all of our currency on one end of the spectrum.

And the funniest thing is, it's just as artificial as you're making socialism out to be. How is our economy NOT artificial? Rich people paying rich people to make laws to make rich people more rich.

Two valid points here.

People ARE lazy. Not just poor people but EVERYONE. This is the major reason behind the fact that there are so many "poor" out there.

Government cannot redistribute wealth. Yes, they can take money from the rich (legal theft) and give it to the poor (redistribution) but they CANNOT change what is a fact - that eventually all that money WILL gravitate back into the hands of the rich and the poor will be poor again.

So, what's the answer other than a continual taxation rate which discourages innovation and wealth building?

Education.

The facts are clear, people do not get rich sitting on their asses or working for a low paying wage. A forced wage increase doesn't change the fact that the workers are STILL sitting on their asses or working for a low paying wage compared to the "rich".

More facts: Complaining doesn't help. Some are poor and the rich are rich. The laws favor the rich (so they say) and not the poor. The truth is, the laws favor everyone, you just have to take advantage of them.

So, how do we do that? Again, the answer is education.

If the laws favor the rich, and the poor cannot get rich by working harder, then doesn't it make sense to teach the poor what the rich are doing that allows them to get rich?

It's the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" idea. There are simple concepts out there which can change the financial status of most people. Yet people are complaining about being poor and are IGNORING them in favor of financing the next glitzy piece of garbage that comes on the market.

Some of the things everyone should know (and these are just the beginning):

• Get out of the credit debt trap.

• Stop buying everything in sight on impulse.

• Start a savings account and put your ENTIRE paycheck in it. Then only pull enough back to pay your bills and leave the rest alone.

• DIVEST yourself of those things which cost you money with no return.

• LEARN how to invest your savings wisely. FUCK all those investment companies which churn your account to make themselves money at your expense (and loss). YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST LEARN how to keep your money safe and growing.

Those are only SOME of the things that rich people know and do. If you want to be "rich", maybe you should be doing them too instead of hoping the government will come along and save you.

I'm going to plug a book here: The Richest Man in Babylon by George Clason. Buy it, read it and THINK about it. If more people were taught the basic principles found in that book the world would be different for most of them. Of the rest, either they're lazy or so inept they would never be able to help themselves without the government to save them. At that point it ceases to be MY concern. Nor should it be yours. At least not politically.

 

[TheWhiteBull]

I think its also important to remember that while this might currently be an extreme disparity there have been even more extreme ones throughout history and no society at all in history without a serious divide between the top and the bottom. We're not going to solve it tomorrow if it hasnt been solved during the last 5,000 years.

 

[urguyscott]

Yes we should be more like Cuba and China and see that the wealth is given to the proper people. In Cuba everyone, but the elite royalist of the party, make $29 a month, no matter what the job. That's fair. The slum lord for the whole country is Castro. He owns everything. The people live on food ration cards where the government tells them what to eat and how much. Fair. The communists party members are not responsible to the people and corruption is a way of life. (Like in any Democrat city or state here)

In China the salary of all workers goes to the party. Or that is to the party leaders. That is fair. The Party elite all have off shore bank accounts. They have to put the money the people give them somewhere. The Chinese government owns all business and banks, etc. Like Castro they are king and the people are serfs whose duty is to see to the comfort of the leaders. The leftist crying for Wealth Distribution here understand that.

Look at Emperor Kim of North Korea. The only over fed person in the entire country. He makes sure the wealth is in his country like all socialist and communists countries is taken care of by the leaders.

The leader of Russia is one of the richest men in the world. The Russian people are still as happy as ever under Imperialist Russian rule which is still Communist rule. Happy happy happy.

Yes the people who on here preach for Wealth Distribution want us to be as happy as the people in Cuba, Russia, North Korea, China, etc. There no one worries about money or working hard and quality of work or the safety of the workers. The government sees to that. Poverty for all. Yes lets thank the wise people who are asking that we have "Wealth Distribution" and make our political leaders richer and our people poorer. Happy happy happy.

They know that slavery and forced labor and hunger and poverty are the best qualities of a communist state. All the people, but the party elite of course, share and share alike. Happy happy happy.

History is filled with happy socialist and communist and fascists states. Their rewritten history of course. If you asked them to show you a communists country where the people don't have to be guarded or they will try to escape the happy land of workers they won't be able to do it. But that's OK. Slavery is fun. Happy happy happy.

 

[AnalCreampieGiver]

I wish Jill Stein or even Gary Johnson would have miraculously won this past election, they would've tried to do something about it I'm sure.

 

[mackiemack]

Gee! look! Busy Body's metrosexual alt. That oldtimer has too much time on his hands

 

[Freudian_Slit]

Isn't government wonderful!!! Yay socialism!!!


LOL.....

Wealth inequality in the US is a direct result of government market mongering.

An alternative perspective holds that unequal wealth distribution is systemic, and has a deeper history than USA (see, Pareto Principle). That a robust middle class is more likely the result of historical anomalies, or government intervention.

 

[phrodeau]

Gee! look! Busy Body's metrosexual alt. That oldtimer has too much time on his hands

Scotty? He was in high school when he first appeared here in 2003.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

https://youtu.be/pz2p4EQtEXs

 

[handysr]

How the FUCK do you get from anger at CVS to "knowing" Hillary Clinton is a liar? Is she the CEO? Does she personally run that corporation? Why is she to blame for all these problems you see?

It seems to me you're a miserable, fat fuck mired in your own helplessness and bitterness and confusion about your own life. All your own problems. You are latching onto "Politics," which you admit you know nothing about, because you can't take responsibility for YOURSELF. You're a self-pitying snowflake victim. Politicians give you something to blame.

You're a pathetic man-baby whimpering in a crib whining endlessly that Mommy and Daddy aren't taking care of you. Grow the fuck up. Politicians are not all-powerful parents. Stop thinking like a helpless child.

In the end, instead of growing up, you chose to just end it all, like a school shooter. Oh, waa waa waaa, life is so bad, parents are so full of shit, the world is so bad and unfair, I'm gonna just get rid of it all. I'm gonna take my gun and go mow down as many people as I can before I check out.

Fine, then own it. You chose to go full on school shooter. And you're still too much of a weak whining turd to take responsibility for it. It was Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, she's so all-mighty powerful she forced me to do it, she did!

I always thought you were kinda retarded, but now I see you're off the deep end. Nothing but a nasty cunt. I don't care about the political or religious angles of the "person" who says shit like this, not who it's said to.

Regardless, no make no qualms about sharing your viewpoints, and for all you bleeding heart liberals, this bullshit right here is what you're being compared to. This is what liberal tolerance looks like to someone with a different idea. X.Makes you proud, don't it?

Dude this bitch is a lunatic, a complete psychopath. She is just such an anomaly. I really don't even think most people here actually even want to associate themselves with her.

Not even talking politics here, Carnal Flower is either an amazing troll or she is just absolutely insane.

When people say "Typical Trump supporter," I just remember there are people like Carnal Flower and know that she evens out the playing field quite a bit.

I would agree with you, mostly, but I've seen her posts through the general and politics boards. Her ideas mesh nicely with almost all the other liberals.

CF, ladies and gents of the liberal persuasion, CF is the average of how I see most of you. All giggly and happy to repeat feel-good slogans, and march in the "give me more rights" parades, but as soon as a person says something that offends their poor widdle feelers, then we get the CF rant.

Aren't you glad to be associated with that retarded idiot?

 

[urguyscott]

Ask yourself. Do you want to live in a country like Russia or China or Cuba, etc. where no matter how hard you work or how good you are at your job it doesn't matter, because the state is going to take all or most of your money and they will decide what school you go to and what job you have? And if you do or say anything against the state or its leaders, no matter how vital you are, you will end up in jail or dead?

Or do you want to work hard, and get ahead and make money and see that you and your family lead a good life? Life isn't fair, but at least in a free society you have a fighting chance.

It's true that in a great nation say like Cuba, everyone but the Communists party bosses and the military leaders earn equal salaries. $29 a month. Castro owns everything, the houses, the cars, the food, the clothes, etc. You don't have to worry about things like that. If you are a party boss and corrupt you can have a few nice things. But all others must live equal. Must have wealth distribution. Stores in Communist Russia had bare shelf's and little food. The people, like in Cube needed ration cards and had to stand in long lines in hope that there was some food for them. That's fair. It didn't matter if you were good at your job, no one cared. And the buildings, streets, etc. showed it. In China they send out their people to countries to work factories the state has bought. They don't put locals to work, and the Chinese have to send most of their money back to the Party (whose leaders all have off shore bank accounts by the way). That's fair.

My sisters friend came from Russia and as a child lived under the great Wealth Distribution Society. Whenever the big wigs wanted a parade to show off they would send a party member to the school with fresh new clean uniforms for the children to put on and pretty red flags and then the kids and teachers would have to stand for hours waving the flags for the wonderful leaders.

At the end they went back to school, returned the uniforms and put on their old patched ones and were taught the party line. One day their teacher didn't show up and they never heard from her again. Instead a new teacher (well he was really a plumber but the state told him to report to the school) and he took over the class. Seems fair. After all everyone is equal.

I think that all the rich politicians like the Clinton's and the Obama's should have their money taken from them and their wealth spread out to the people. The rich Hollywood Clowns and the people in Silicon Valley lose their big homes like what happen in Russia and China when the Commies took over and get shot. Seems fair. Spread the wealth.

Remember it is the duty of the masses to see that the leaders are kept fat, happy and rich. Clinton and Obama and Soros are gods who rule by divine right and should be obeyed without question. That's only fair. Spread the wealth. Much for them, little for us. That's fair.

The party says become drug users, don't work, don't get an education, don't allow free press or speech. The gangs rule. That's fair. That spreads the wealth to the people who control you.

Ask the people on here who are so high and mighty and want wealth distribution if they are willing to give up their cars, their phones, their computers, their jobs (if they have one, but I'm sure they are too lazy to have one or they would't be pushing this crap) and live on say $29 a month in a one or two room slum run by the state? Are they willing to give up everything they have and live "equal" with everyone else?