Will Someone Please Shoot This Pagan in The Face?
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Found this article on a quick google: http://www.religionnewsblog.com/9612-.html
This quote struck me:
'Someone please shoot this lapsed pagan in the face' doesn't quite have the same ring to it. So the marriage and the practising of witchcraft were apparently all from the girl's religion, not the woman's current religion? My level of respect for that lazy journalist is slipping further by the second.
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This quote struck me:
'Someone please shoot this lapsed pagan in the face' doesn't quite have the same ring to it. So the marriage and the practising of witchcraft were apparently all from the girl's religion, not the woman's current religion? My level of respect for that lazy journalist is slipping further by the second.
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Against my better judgement...
...one would think I'd have learned from the "southerners" thread, but fuck all!
At the risk of slings and arrows, I must admit that I have some misgivings about the arbitrary age of consent, which leaves a no-man's-land (bad pun, but I couldn't resist) between post-pubescence and voter registration.
Whether the relationship is a teacher/student, mentor/apprentice, spiritual guide/postulate, there is an element of coercion in the relationship. Those are the ones that imply an age difference as well. What would you say about the star athlete/cheerleader, BMOC/really-stacked-nice-girl, senior-girl/sophmore hot-guy? There isn't an element of coercion there?
I don't mean to imply that it's all the same, but I draw a clear distinction between those instances, and episodes where the coercer is under the same roof and related, or the victim is biologically immature.
I've had the luck, or misfortune, of living in a totally alien culture at a very young age. I was 10 when my family lived in Kaduna, Nigeria, in the late 1960s. Coming "of age" in some cultures involves some pretty strange rituals, even while maintaining a successful societal structure for generations.
In Nigeria, "modern" culture was side-by-side with traditional Muslim culture (Ramadan celebrations featured horsemen wearing chainmail captured during the Crusades), which was side-by-side with people who wore leaves over their genitals and styled their hair with dung.
When I got back to "civilization" in the USA, within a few years I had friends who became involved in a "teen group" with a young priest at a popular parish, girls who went to parties at the University campus in the same small town, boys who became involved with Barbershop Quartets or Bagpipe groups with dubious offshoots, and girls who escaped parental abuse by latching onto young teachers, guys in a band, or other similar types of behavior. Is that right? I don't know. I just know that it isn't very unusual.
I surely don't mean to wholly embrace the "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed" ethos. I just think that these sorts of cases have been problematic throughout history, and therefore belong in a category separate from paedophilia. As a parent, I'd love to cling to the idea that my son was a child at age 14; but the facts are that he had classmates who became pregnant (by 16-yr olds), and girls signed his memory book with blatant come-ons.
The article Joe brought up wouldn't be much of an issue if it weren't for the Wicca/lesbian angle. At most, it would be a local scandal. Who hasn't seen a "volleyball/soccer/basketball/swimming/cheerleader coach involved with student" story in the last five years?
...one would think I'd have learned from the "southerners" thread, but fuck all!
At the risk of slings and arrows, I must admit that I have some misgivings about the arbitrary age of consent, which leaves a no-man's-land (bad pun, but I couldn't resist) between post-pubescence and voter registration.
Whether the relationship is a teacher/student, mentor/apprentice, spiritual guide/postulate, there is an element of coercion in the relationship. Those are the ones that imply an age difference as well. What would you say about the star athlete/cheerleader, BMOC/really-stacked-nice-girl, senior-girl/sophmore hot-guy? There isn't an element of coercion there?
I don't mean to imply that it's all the same, but I draw a clear distinction between those instances, and episodes where the coercer is under the same roof and related, or the victim is biologically immature.
I've had the luck, or misfortune, of living in a totally alien culture at a very young age. I was 10 when my family lived in Kaduna, Nigeria, in the late 1960s. Coming "of age" in some cultures involves some pretty strange rituals, even while maintaining a successful societal structure for generations.
In Nigeria, "modern" culture was side-by-side with traditional Muslim culture (Ramadan celebrations featured horsemen wearing chainmail captured during the Crusades), which was side-by-side with people who wore leaves over their genitals and styled their hair with dung.
When I got back to "civilization" in the USA, within a few years I had friends who became involved in a "teen group" with a young priest at a popular parish, girls who went to parties at the University campus in the same small town, boys who became involved with Barbershop Quartets or Bagpipe groups with dubious offshoots, and girls who escaped parental abuse by latching onto young teachers, guys in a band, or other similar types of behavior. Is that right? I don't know. I just know that it isn't very unusual.
I surely don't mean to wholly embrace the "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed" ethos. I just think that these sorts of cases have been problematic throughout history, and therefore belong in a category separate from paedophilia. As a parent, I'd love to cling to the idea that my son was a child at age 14; but the facts are that he had classmates who became pregnant (by 16-yr olds), and girls signed his memory book with blatant come-ons.
The article Joe brought up wouldn't be much of an issue if it weren't for the Wicca/lesbian angle. At most, it would be a local scandal. Who hasn't seen a "volleyball/soccer/basketball/swimming/cheerleader coach involved with student" story in the last five years?
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