World Trade Center-Plane Crash

I have managed to stay away from news coverage of 9-11 this last week, yet I felt compelled to read through this thread, all of it. It brings It all back ...... Damn
 
Jim_Henson said:
Someone had to fucking bring it back up

Don't worry, if someone else hadn't already bumped it, I was ready to bump it on 9/11.

And if you stick around a few years, I'll bump it every 9/11.
 
Cheyenne said:


Don't worry, if someone else hadn't already bumped it, I was ready to bump it on 9/11.

And if you stick around a few years, I'll bump it every 9/11.

EVERY 9/11? Can't you let it go after a while?
 
Spinaroonie said:


EVERY 9/11? Can't you let it go after a while?

Nope. Seems like a very fitting way to remember to me. You don't have to read it if you don't want to.
 
Thanks for bumping this one up. It does bring it all back. It's history as it happened. And something to remember.
 
Cheyenne said:


Nope. Seems like a very fitting way to remember to me. You don't have to read it if you don't want to.

Do you light a candle every april 19th and 20th?
 
Cheyenne said:


Nope. Seems like a very fitting way to remember to me. You don't have to read it if you don't want to.


Thanks Chey, I just read the whole thread. My God, brought back so many memories, that I didn't really want to remember. But after reading this, I'm glad I did.
 
OMG...I couldn't read through the whole thread...it just is bringing it back too strongly. But thanks for bumping it....it should be here on page one this week.

How's everyone coping with it 1 year later?

I have to be at work in midtown on Wed...I don't really want to be there.
 
Spinaroonie said:
I think it's really interesting to look through this thread and just see how inaccurate the information is that we get from breaking news developments. False Carbombings, Snipers, #number of planes hijacked... What's really interesting is that the numbers always go down... The "10,000 dead and will only rise" went down to Less than half of that. All of those carbombs turned out not to be true.

Says a lot about the media, I think.

<-- Read text on bottom of tv screen that the PLO took responsibility for it after the buildings fell.
 
Spinaroonie said:


yes, I know, at the time it was impossible to do fact checking or things like that. But you would think that since they show such horror in the death count being at 10K plus, that they'd show some relief when it dipped below 3K. Instead it was a blurb before commercials.

Relief? The body count could have dropped below 1K, but my heart wouldn't have bled any less. Whether it's 10K or 3K is irrelevant. It's still too many.
 
Thank you for bringing this thread back up.
After all the arguing, the bickering about such trivial things ... reading this thread took me back to that moment .. brought me back to what's real, what's important. It's not political spin, it isn't media sound bites .. people are important. There are thousands of wonderful people that the world doesn't have anymore. That is the tragedy, that is what is important, and important to remember.

Every generation has it's own event to remind them .. if they choose to learn the lesson. I chose to learn.

Tolerance is so important
Love of your fellow man is so important
Remembering that every human on this earth has just as much a right to live and breathe and love and hope as you do
Put aside the pettiness and make something in your world better.

Helen Keller - born deaf and blind was far more intuitive than many with functioning senses. It was she who said: "I cannot do everything, but I can do something"

God Bless the World. God Bless my home, the Mitten of the USA.

Thank you - I needed this.
 
i wonder if in 25 years....the memory of it all will hurt like this....be as overwhelming....it's all so crystal-clear in my mind....

just achy lil waves that hit.....
 
Wow... the other board I post on wasn't around before 9/11, so to read something like this is kind of stunning...
 
I was on a board at a different website at the time, and it has since been dismantled. May this one last a lifetime.
 
I had just joined Lit the week before 9/11.

It absolutely amazed me how supportive the community was of everyone .. even me .. the chic with like 70 posts that they didn't know. I spent a full day on Lit, talking to people and watching the news.

Whenever the bickering starts I remember days like that - I remember the Journey of Never. This board rocks.
 
I actually registered the evening ot the 11th. I had just come off a very long shift at work and was bone brain weary. I wanted some place to go - any place - where I could try to sort things out. I honestly can't tell you why I chose here, but in all, I'm not sorry I did.

For those who are curious this is my first-ever post . It's actually an interesting companion thread to all of this.
 
This editorial is from last year, 9-12-2001
I think it reflects how most of us were feeling.


Leonard Pitts Jr. column from the Miami Herald
Published Wednesday, September 12, 2001
=================================

We'll go forward from this moment

It's my job to have something to say.

They pay me to provide words that help make sense of
that which troubles the American soul. But in this
moment of airless shock when hot tears sting
disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the
only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the
unknown author of this suffering.

You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard.

What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's
attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What
was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please
know that you failed.

Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned
your cause.

Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our
resolve.

Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us
together.

Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and
quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social,
political and class division but a family nonetheless.
We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending
tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae --
a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a
cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready
availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe
because of that, we walk through life with a certain
sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally
decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We
struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we
are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith,
believers in a just and loving God.

Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of
this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak.
Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by
arsenals.


IN PAIN

Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in
shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the
awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves
understand that this isn't a special effect from some
Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a
Tom Clancy novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of
their ambition and the probable final death toll, your
attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of
terrorism in the history of the United States and,
probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us
as we have never been bloodied before.



But there's a gulf of difference between making us
bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was
taught to its bitter sorrow the last time anyone hit us
this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt
and monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in
our outrage, terrible in our force. When provoked by
this level of barbarism, we will bear any suffering, pay
any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice.

I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my
people, as you, I think, do not. What I know reassures
me. It also causes me to tremble with dread of the
future.

In the days to come, there will be recrimination and
accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose failure
allowed this to happen and what can be done to prevent
it from happening again. There will be heightened
security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms.
We'll go forward from this moment sobered, chastened,
sad. But determined, too. Unimaginably determined.


THE STEEL IN US

You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent.
That aspect of our character is seldom understood by
people who don't know us well.
On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold. As
Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and
as Americans, we will rise in defense of all that we
cherish.

So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It
occurs to me that maybe you just wanted us to know the
depths of your hatred. If that's the case, consider the
message received. And take this message in exchange: You
don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable
of. You don't know what you just started.

But you're about to learn.
 
Ginny said:
i wonder if in 25 years....the memory of it all will hurt like this....be as overwhelming....it's all so crystal-clear in my mind....

just achy lil waves that hit.....

Time heals, Gin. The next one won't be as bad.
 
ya know Spin....i dig you.....but that remark was uncalled for....and not even funny...


i'm not sure there is any place for sarcasm about September 11th on this thread....or making fun of or light of anyone who expresses their feelings about it....

<shaking head>
 
Ginny said:
ya know Spin....i dig you.....but that remark was uncalled for....and not even funny...


i'm not sure there is any place for sarcasm about September 11th on this thread....or making fun of or light of anyone who expresses their feelings about it....

<shaking head>

That one in response to yours wasn't supposed to be funny.

I'm just saying as time goes on we won't be as emotional over it, we won't feel as bad over it. We'll move on from it. Next year you will not feel as down about it as you do this year. The year after that you'll feel even less worse about it.

To be emotionally healthy you have to move on from things like this. You have to heal.

I'm sorry if that's sarcasm about it, but I feel it's human nature to heal after such things. I still miss my grandfather, but I don't feel as terribly when he died.
 
my apologies Spin.....a few of your other comments just made me assume you were making fun of me.....

you're right....it prolly will get better....<nodding>....sorry for jumping to the wrong conclusion about your post......assumptions are nasty thangs.....
 
Ginny said:
my apologies Spin.....a few of your other comments just made me assume you were making fun of me.....

you're right....it prolly will get better....<nodding>....sorry for jumping to the wrong conclusion about your post......assumptions are nasty thangs.....

That's alright, Gin. I can see how that can happen.
 
To be emotionally healthy you have to move on from things like this. You have to heal.

Gee spin, can we grieve for just one more day, come on, be a guy, just let us have one more day ....please, I promise I will never mention It again.
 
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