2008 News & Views: Discussion and Announcements for the Survivorphile

[starrkers]

Yes and no. I suggest reading the relevant rules etc for yourself. BFW as usual is putting his own spin on things.

 

[sr71plt]

Yes and no. I suggest reading the relevant rules etc for yourself. BFW as usual is putting his own spin on things.

I shouldn't have to review the rules to follow this discussion (as I said, this whole contest seems Byzantine)--if BFW is wrong, why doesn't someone just cite the official posted rule to him? There should be a comprehensive set of official rules posted, shouldn't there? Everyone's pointing to some sort of informal rule changes. I don't understand why he isn't getting a straight "look at the official posted rules" answer to the objection he posts. Shrug.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

I'm just reacting to the discussion. It seems simple enough. BFW is saying that the chapter business isn't in the official rules posted and the responses to him aren't claiming the rule is in the official rules. Seems a straightforward answer would clear that up. This contest really sounds convoluted--and a little screwy, frankly. It certainly is promoting a lot of spitting.

Several straightforward answers have been given, I think. *shrug*

Multi chapter stories are allowed in 2008. That's not a problem.

The CLARIFICATION was that stories should be comprehensible in and of themselves, and if they weren't, they should be reported. (The post also included the suggestion of reporting stories with an incorrect category placement as well...) Lauren posted that in the VERY FIRST announcement about the new 2008 rules. She was talking about the NEW 2008 RULES. You know, way back at the beginning of 2008?

In case anyone missed it.

It's really not that complicated. I mean, it's not rocket science. And her post was certainly not obscure. It was the very first post on a clean board back in 2008, and anyone starting the contest would have been hard-pressed not to have noticed and read it. And we all know Freddie was around then...

Every year, there are concerns about multichapter stories and about the quality of some submissions. Once again we must remind all contestants that the only quality control in place is Laurel, at the moment of approval of the submissions. If you read a story that cannot be understood without reading the others in the series, if it doesn't make sense on its own, or if it doesn't correspond, on its own, to the minimum that can be expected for the category it is placed in, please report the story. If you think that any story you read in Literotica is substandard, please report the story. Let Laurel know about it. That's the only way a quality control can be implemented.

So if chapter eight of a multi-part series made no sense unless you read chapters 1-7, it should be reported. The moderators were encouraging others to do so. That's all. It's that simple.

If BFW was reported for violating that rule, or if anyone else was, I have no idea.

 

[sr71plt]

Oh, thanks. This contest certainly seems to bring out the worst in a lot of folks.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Freddie, I just read your story "Alabama Revenge." It was the first chaptered story in your index so I picked it. I didn't count the words, but I suppose all five parts were about 750 words or a little more. It was five chapters and I voted and commented on the last part. I did that because it was a single story in five parts. It was not five stand-alone stories.

It was actually pretty good, although there were some loose ends and it depended on a huge coincidence.

 

[sr71plt]

Freddie, I just read your story "Alabama Revenge." It was the first chaptered story in your index so I picked it. I didn't count the words, but I suppose all five parts were about 750 words or a little more. It was five chapters and I voted and commented on the last part. I did that because it was a single story in five parts. It was not five stand-alone stories.

It was actually pretty good, although there were some loose ends and it depended on a huge coincidence.

Yep, runs between 850 and 1,050 words each segment and just one short story in itself (about a page and a half Lit. page total) with no attempt at chapter breaks in content whatsoever.

Only checked it because he constantly yammers about others in this contest doing this--all the while doing it himself.

This is really just one Lit. story of modest length. What folks will do here in glumping up the story file just to make a little cash they claim they don't need.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Yep, runs between 850 and 1,050 words each segment and just one short story in itself (about a page and a half Lit. page total) with no attempt at chapter breaks in content whatsoever.

Only checked it because he constantly yammers about others in this contest doing this--all the while doing it himself.

This is really just one Lit. story of modest length. What folks will do here in glumping up the story file just to make a little cash they claim they don't need.

That seriously didn't surprise you did it?

I don't know about anybody else, but whenever I was participating, I could definitely use any money I won. I know $500 sure would come in handy right now. Too bad I didn't compete this year. (Not that it would have mattered. No way in hell I could get over 600 points... Okay, so technically, I could since I scored over 600 one year. However... I don't think I have that many stories in me anymore. That year pretty much killed my muse and she never really came back.)

 

[sr71plt]

That seriously didn't surprise you did it?

I don't know about anybody else, but whenever I was participating, I could definitely use any money I won. I know $500 sure would come in handy right now. Too bad I didn't compete this year. (Not that it would have mattered. No way in hell I could get over 600 points... Okay, so technically, I could since I scored 665 back in 2005. However... I don't think I have that many stories in me anymore. That year pretty much killed my muse and she never really came back.)

Well, on the length--yes, sort of. I mean he was so very nasty and condescending about those throwing in short pieces just to qualify them. Seems a little dumb to me.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Well, on the length--yes, sort of. I mean he was so very nasty and condescending about those throwing in short pieces just to qualify them. Seems a little dumb to me.

He's been nasty and condescending about everything. Besides, I'm sure you've heard "methinks he doth protest too much". Maybe he thought if he shouted loud enough about it no one would think he was doing it too.

 

[sr71plt]

He's been nasty and condescending about everything. Besides, I'm sure you've heard "methinks he doth protest too much". Maybe he thought if he shouted loud enough about it no one would think he was doing it too.

I see. So, instead of 300 stories this year, he has 60 stories cut up into small pieces(?)--and, as Boxlicker has noted, half-baked pieces at that. I see. (Makes me feel pretty good about the 900,000 words I've published with eXcessica in just the last eight months. )

I see.

 

[starrkers]

I see. So, instead of 300 stories this year, he has 60 stories cut up into small pieces(?)--and, as Boxlicker has noted, half-baked pieces at that. I see. (Makes me feel pretty good about the 900,000 words I've published with eXcessica in just the last eight months. )

I see.

That about covers it, yeah. Except he has written a fair number of different pieces. About 190 I seem to recall counting.

 

[michchick98]

I shouldn't have to review the rules to follow this discussion (as I said, this whole contest seems Byzantine)--if BFW is wrong, why doesn't someone just cite the official posted rule to him? There should be a comprehensive set of official rules posted, shouldn't there? Everyone's pointing to some sort of informal rule changes. I don't understand why he isn't getting a straight "look at the official posted rules" answer to the objection he posts. Shrug.

Several have posted the official rules for him. Several have pointed him to the posts in this thread he needed to read back when this year's contest began. He's still not getting it. He won't ever get it.

 

[starrkers]

Damn, I was hoping a story would post today, but it hasn't.
*Bites nails*

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Below are the 2008 Survivor Literotica Contest: Rules

This is what I read and reread. This is what I went by to participate in this contest. Now, if there is a rule change in 2008 for this 2008 contest, that rule change should have been listed in the 2008 Survivor Contest rules.

You are all just trying to find a loophole to disqualify most of my stories, stories that I wrote by the 2008 Survivor Contest rules that were posted and continually and constantly referred to me to read. You even have a separate thread for the 2008 Survivor Contest rules. No where on that Official Survivor Contest rule thread does it mention a rule change.

Either you have rules or you don't.

2008 Survivor Literotica Contest: Rules and Registration

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Keep in mind that these rules are currently under review and may be altered within the next few days.



Official 2008 Survivor Literotica Contest Rules


Entering the Contest
You may enter the contest any time before midnight, Pacific Standard Time (UTC-8:00) on October 31, 2008.
You may officially enter by pressing "Post Reply" in this thread and giving notice of your intention to participate. You will be notified via Private Message (PM) once your scoring thread has been created, and you may begin tracking your scores immediately after. In order to enter the contest, you must have Private Messaging enabled in your User CP.
You must enter the contest in order to be eligible for prizes.

Eligibility
Open to all persons over the age of 18, where legal.
Entrants found infringing copyright or cheating will be automatically disqualified.
Literotica reserves the right to disqualify entrants for cause at any time without notice.

Objective
To write as many new and original stories in as many different categories listed on the main story index in the course of the year as possible.

Winning the Contest
The participant with the most points wins!
Ties will break in favour of:
the participant with more categories with at least one submission or immunity;
the participant with more categories with at least 10 submissions;
the participant with more submissions entered in the contest.
Winners to be announced shortly after 1/5/2009
Prizes
Top Survivor ........................... $500
2nd-Placed Survivor ................ $250
3rd-Placed Survivor ................. $200
4th-Placed Survivor ................. $150
5th-Placed Survivor ................. $100
6th- to 15th-Placed Survivors ... $25 Amazon.com gift certificate

Scoring

Stories

(except Novels and Novellas)
First submission posted in each category: 3 points;
Each subsequent submission posted in each category: 1 point;
There is no limit for additional submissions eligible to receive points.
(Novels and Novellas only)
Only submissions with 7500 words or more are eligible for points in this category;
First submission posted in this category: 6 points;
Each subsequent submission posted in this category up to and including the 10th: 2 points;
Each subsequent submission posted in this category after the 10th: 1 point;
There is no limit for additional submissions eligible to receive points.
Poems
First poem posted in each category: 3 points;
Each subsequent poem in each category: 1 point;
There is a cap of 10 poems per poetry category eligible to earn points.
Bonuses
For 10 categories filled: 5 points;
For 20 categories filled: 10 points;
For 30 categories filled: 15 points;
For all categories filled: 30 points;
For 10 stories in one category (each category eligible for one bonus): 5 points.
Immunities
Weekly immunity: 2 points
Your ScoreCard
All entrants will have a ScoreCard thread created in the Survivor contest forum for the purposes of tracking scores upon entering.
Official ScoreCard Threads will be the basis for judging the winners of the contest.
See the rules concerning Scoring below.

Rules

Stories and Poems
Stories and poems must be accepted and posted at Literotica.
Literotica reserves the right to reject a submission at any time. Entrance in the contest does not guarantee publication.
Literotica reserves the right to change the category under which a submission is entered, if it is judged not to correspond to the characteristics of that category.
Only stories and poems with posting dates on or between 1/2/2008 and 1/1/2009 are eligible for the contest.
Contest entries submitted after 12/20/2008 must be clearly marked SURVIVOR CONTEST in the notes field for the editor. Failure to do this may result in stories not being posted in time for the contest.
Multipart stories are posted one a day by Literotica rules. If you wish all parts to be entered into the contest, please make sure that you submit them to the site early enough for Literotica to publish them by 1/1/2009.
Stories and poems used for points in 2007 may not be used for points in 2008. Stories and poems that win or are entered in other Literotica contests are eligible for points in Survivor.
Each story or poem must be original work from the entrant for points to be awarded. Stories and poems that had already been posted at Literotica.com, as well as translated, illustrated, narrated, transcribed or templated versions of submissions already entered in the contest are not eligible for points.


Novels and Novellas: All submissions made to the Novels and Novellas category must be 7500 words or more to be eligible for the contest.


Audio stories and poems: All audio stories must be 750 words or more to be eligible for the contest. There is no minimum length for poetry submissions. The accompanying text must be an accurate transcript of the submitted audio, and must be posted in the Text With Audio or Poetry With Audio categories as applicable. See Audio Story FAQ for information on submitting work.


Illustrated stories and poems: All illustrated stories must be 750 words or more to be eligible for the contest. There is no minimum length for poetry submissions. All submissions, including the illustrations, must be original work of the entrant, i.e. photographs taken, or drawings or paintings created by the entrant. The use of royalty-free and/or public domain images will make a submission ineligible for points. The use of the same illustration in more than one submission will render all said submissions after the first ineligible for points. The use of images in the production of which the contestant was not directly involved, either by creating or by being portrayed in them, will make submissions in the "Illustrated" and "Illustrated Poetry" categories ineligible for points in Survivor. That means that you can use photographs that you yourself took or that were taken of you, or paintings or drawings that you yourself created. It also means that you cannot use royalty-free or public domain images, or images pulled from somewhere off the web. See Illustrated Story FAQ for information on submitting work.


Non-English stories and poems: Submissions in all languages are eligible for the contest and must be posted in the corresponding categories as applicable. There will not be a specific non-English category in the scoreboards. All submissions must be original work of the entrant, and subsequent translations in any language are not eligible for points.


Chain Stories must comply with Literotica guidelines. See Chain Story FAQ for more information.
If a new category is created in the course of the year, it will be added to the contest.
Immunities
Immunity points are awarded on a weekly basis.
There is no requirement to participate in Immunities. An entrant may forego all Immunity activity.
Immunities must be posted in an official immunity thread. Posts in any other threads will not be eligible for points.
Immunities are won based on the weekly Wednesday Lottery available here: http://lottery.merseyworld.com/
Entrants can select a single number between 1 and 49. The selected number must be posted by the entrant prior to 7:30 PM GMT on Wednesday for the number to be consider for that day's draw. That is 7:30 PM in London on Wednesday. For the timezone illiterate: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html
Immunity will be awarded if entrant's guess matches any one of the winning numbers or the bonus ball listed at the top of the page at http://lottery.merseyworld.com/
Immunity points must be used by 7:30 PM GMT on the following Wednesday.
Immunity points are only available for use in a category that has not been filled by a story or poem. For example, if you do not want to write an Incest/Taboo story, use your immunity in that category.
Immunities will irreversibly disqualify any future story from that category. Once the immunity is posted, that category is closed to submissions.
If you've won an immunity, the first thing to do is make a post in the official immunity thread corresponding to that month (and only that thread) that you've won an immunity and which category you will use it for. This is the only way you will earn the immunity.
Do not edit the post after 7:30 PM GMT on Wednesday. If you do so, your immunity will be invalidated. This post is the only way we have to verify the immunity and the category you choose.
When an immunity is scored in your ScoreCard, please list the date the immunity was won and the category it fills. For example, if you win an immunity on the 2nd of January, please list it: Immunity 1/2/2008.
At the end of the year, all immunities claimed will be considered valid, as long as there are two categories filled with regular submissions for each immunity. e.g.: If a contestant has 7 immunities won, but has only regular submissions in 12 different categories, only the first 6 immunities will be considered valid.
Scoring
Stories must be published at Literotica in order to earn points. Stories that are pending review or in submission do not count for points in the contest.
Each contestant will have his or her own ScoreCard thread to keep track of scoring.
Entrants must track immunities as soon as they elect to use their immunity.
It is the entrant's responsibility to accurately track story scores, immunities, and bonus points.
Entrants are encouraged to track their points regularly and maintain their ScoreCards updated at all times.
Entrants have until midnight, Pacific Standard Time, on 1/4/2009 to make any changes to their ScoreCards. Winners will be announced on or shortly after 1/5/2009.
Scoring is subject to random checks by the moderator without notice for purposes of quality control.
Miscellany
All entrants will be responsible for tracking their own progress through the Contest.

Entrants and winners retain copyright to all works submitted.
Sections 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 of Official Monthly Contest Rules apply.
Plagiarism or cheating will result in expulsion from the Contest and potentially other actions taken by Literotica.
Rules are subject to change without notice.
Questions should be directed to the moderators. You may privately contact the moderators at any time by pressing the PM button at any of their posts.
Questions may be directed to the webmaster at contests@literotica.com. Questions may be referred to the moderators.
This contest is sponsored by Literotica.com. Literotica.com claims no liability in the administration of this contest.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Please note that the above post is the "Official Rules for the 2008 Survivor Contest".

There are no other rules, otherwise they'd be posted on the Official 2008 Survivor Contest rules and in the Official 2008 Survivor Contest thread.

Now, if there was a rule change, especially a rule change that supposedly took place in January 2008, that the Official Rules for the 2008 Survivor Contest would at some point be updated?

If the rule is not on the Official 2008 Survivor Contest rules and not in the Official 2008 Survivor Contest thread, then it is not a rule and there is no rule change.

Yes, I understand that Literotica has the right to change rules at any time they wish, only they must post those rule changes so that we, as writers, know the rules of the contest.

Show me the "rule" that reads all stories must correspond to your arbitrary definition of a stand alone story.

I need to see the "rule".

I don't want to see a post that was imbedded in a thread. I don't waste my time reading threads and responding to threads 24/7 as some of these others do. I write stories.

Now, if you show me a "rule" that states stories must meet your "arbitrary" definition of a stand alone story, then I'll go away.

Moreover, it's odd that this "phantom" rule, a rule not listed on the "Official Survivor Rule Thread" only applies to me and to my story. No one is effected by this rule.

This is not a rule but a "ruse" to deny me from the points that I worked so hard to earn in the course of the year by writing more than 300 stories.

I played by the rules and now there are "new" rules, rules that Literotica doesn't even have to post, I guess.

I read that Literotica can change the rules at any time. I didn't read that when Literotica changes the rules at any time, it doesn't have to post the new rule.

What kind of contest is this? Certainly, it is not a fair contest. This contest is again twisted by popularity and not by those who followed the rules, the "Official" rules that you posted all year long in your "Official Survivor Contest thread".

Wouldn't you think if a new rule change was that important, you'd take the time to add the rule to the Official Survivor Contest rules instead of hiding it among other posts hoping that "I" wouldn't see it?

This is not a fair contest. Once, again, I am cheated by Literotica from winning.

 

[starrkers]

If you don't waste your time keeping up with a thread that contains announcements pertaining to the contest you've entered, I guess that's your loss.
But don't go blaming the organisers for your failure.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

If you don't waste your time keeping up with a thread that contains announcements pertaining to the contest you've entered, I guess that's your loss.
But don't go blaming the organisers for your failure.

First of all, who are you to speak for the contest, the moderators, and for Literotica?

Secondly, have you taken the time to read the "Official Rules of the Survivor Contest for 2008?"

Now, I'm not talking about the "Official Rules for the Survivor Contest for 2009, I'm talking about the "Official Rules for the Survivor Contest for 2008," the official rules that were posted in their own special "Official Survivor Rule Thread" and have been posted there all year without change.

Allow me to post them for you. Ready? Here they are.

Official 2008 Survivor Literotica Contest Rules


Entering the Contest
You may enter the contest any time before midnight, Pacific Standard Time (UTC-8:00) on October 31, 2008.
You may officially enter by pressing "Post Reply" in this thread and giving notice of your intention to participate. You will be notified via Private Message (PM) once your scoring thread has been created, and you may begin tracking your scores immediately after. In order to enter the contest, you must have Private Messaging enabled in your User CP.
You must enter the contest in order to be eligible for prizes.

Eligibility
Open to all persons over the age of 18, where legal.
Entrants found infringing copyright or cheating will be automatically disqualified.
Literotica reserves the right to disqualify entrants for cause at any time without notice.

Objective
To write as many new and original stories in as many different categories listed on the main story index in the course of the year as possible.

Winning the Contest
The participant with the most points wins!
Ties will break in favour of:
the participant with more categories with at least one submission or immunity;
the participant with more categories with at least 10 submissions;
the participant with more submissions entered in the contest.
Winners to be announced shortly after 1/5/2009
Prizes
Top Survivor ........................... $500
2nd-Placed Survivor ................ $250
3rd-Placed Survivor ................. $200
4th-Placed Survivor ................. $150
5th-Placed Survivor ................. $100
6th- to 15th-Placed Survivors ... $25 Amazon.com gift certificate

Scoring

Stories

(except Novels and Novellas)
First submission posted in each category: 3 points;
Each subsequent submission posted in each category: 1 point;
There is no limit for additional submissions eligible to receive points.
(Novels and Novellas only)
Only submissions with 7500 words or more are eligible for points in this category;
First submission posted in this category: 6 points;
Each subsequent submission posted in this category up to and including the 10th: 2 points;
Each subsequent submission posted in this category after the 10th: 1 point;
There is no limit for additional submissions eligible to receive points.
Poems
First poem posted in each category: 3 points;
Each subsequent poem in each category: 1 point;
There is a cap of 10 poems per poetry category eligible to earn points.
Bonuses
For 10 categories filled: 5 points;
For 20 categories filled: 10 points;
For 30 categories filled: 15 points;
For all categories filled: 30 points;
For 10 stories in one category (each category eligible for one bonus): 5 points.
Immunities
Weekly immunity: 2 points
Your ScoreCard
All entrants will have a ScoreCard thread created in the Survivor contest forum for the purposes of tracking scores upon entering.
Official ScoreCard Threads will be the basis for judging the winners of the contest.
See the rules concerning Scoring below.

Rules

Stories and Poems
Stories and poems must be accepted and posted at Literotica.
Literotica reserves the right to reject a submission at any time. Entrance in the contest does not guarantee publication.
Literotica reserves the right to change the category under which a submission is entered, if it is judged not to correspond to the characteristics of that category.
Only stories and poems with posting dates on or between 1/2/2008 and 1/1/2009 are eligible for the contest.
Contest entries submitted after 12/20/2008 must be clearly marked SURVIVOR CONTEST in the notes field for the editor. Failure to do this may result in stories not being posted in time for the contest.
Multipart stories are posted one a day by Literotica rules. If you wish all parts to be entered into the contest, please make sure that you submit them to the site early enough for Literotica to publish them by 1/1/2009.
Stories and poems used for points in 2007 may not be used for points in 2008. Stories and poems that win or are entered in other Literotica contests are eligible for points in Survivor.
Each story or poem must be original work from the entrant for points to be awarded. Stories and poems that had already been posted at Literotica.com, as well as translated, illustrated, narrated, transcribed or templated versions of submissions already entered in the contest are not eligible for points.


Novels and Novellas: All submissions made to the Novels and Novellas category must be 7500 words or more to be eligible for the contest.


Audio stories and poems: All audio stories must be 750 words or more to be eligible for the contest. There is no minimum length for poetry submissions. The accompanying text must be an accurate transcript of the submitted audio, and must be posted in the Text With Audio or Poetry With Audio categories as applicable. See Audio Story FAQ for information on submitting work.


Illustrated stories and poems: All illustrated stories must be 750 words or more to be eligible for the contest. There is no minimum length for poetry submissions. All submissions, including the illustrations, must be original work of the entrant, i.e. photographs taken, or drawings or paintings created by the entrant. The use of royalty-free and/or public domain images will make a submission ineligible for points. The use of the same illustration in more than one submission will render all said submissions after the first ineligible for points. The use of images in the production of which the contestant was not directly involved, either by creating or by being portrayed in them, will make submissions in the "Illustrated" and "Illustrated Poetry" categories ineligible for points in Survivor. That means that you can use photographs that you yourself took or that were taken of you, or paintings or drawings that you yourself created. It also means that you cannot use royalty-free or public domain images, or images pulled from somewhere off the web. See Illustrated Story FAQ for information on submitting work.


Non-English stories and poems: Submissions in all languages are eligible for the contest and must be posted in the corresponding categories as applicable. There will not be a specific non-English category in the scoreboards. All submissions must be original work of the entrant, and subsequent translations in any language are not eligible for points.


Chain Stories must comply with Literotica guidelines. See Chain Story FAQ for more information.
If a new category is created in the course of the year, it will be added to the contest.
Immunities
Immunity points are awarded on a weekly basis.
There is no requirement to participate in Immunities. An entrant may forego all Immunity activity.
Immunities must be posted in an official immunity thread. Posts in any other threads will not be eligible for points.
Immunities are won based on the weekly Wednesday Lottery available here: http://lottery.merseyworld.com/
Entrants can select a single number between 1 and 49. The selected number must be posted by the entrant prior to 7:30 PM GMT on Wednesday for the number to be consider for that day's draw. That is 7:30 PM in London on Wednesday. For the timezone illiterate: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html
Immunity will be awarded if entrant's guess matches any one of the winning numbers or the bonus ball listed at the top of the page at http://lottery.merseyworld.com/
Immunity points must be used by 7:30 PM GMT on the following Wednesday.
Immunity points are only available for use in a category that has not been filled by a story or poem. For example, if you do not want to write an Incest/Taboo story, use your immunity in that category.
Immunities will irreversibly disqualify any future story from that category. Once the immunity is posted, that category is closed to submissions.
If you've won an immunity, the first thing to do is make a post in the official immunity thread corresponding to that month (and only that thread) that you've won an immunity and which category you will use it for. This is the only way you will earn the immunity.
Do not edit the post after 7:30 PM GMT on Wednesday. If you do so, your immunity will be invalidated. This post is the only way we have to verify the immunity and the category you choose.
When an immunity is scored in your ScoreCard, please list the date the immunity was won and the category it fills. For example, if you win an immunity on the 2nd of January, please list it: Immunity 1/2/2008.
At the end of the year, all immunities claimed will be considered valid, as long as there are two categories filled with regular submissions for each immunity. e.g.: If a contestant has 7 immunities won, but has only regular submissions in 12 different categories, only the first 6 immunities will be considered valid.
Scoring
Stories must be published at Literotica in order to earn points. Stories that are pending review or in submission do not count for points in the contest.
Each contestant will have his or her own ScoreCard thread to keep track of scoring.
Entrants must track immunities as soon as they elect to use their immunity.
It is the entrant's responsibility to accurately track story scores, immunities, and bonus points.
Entrants are encouraged to track their points regularly and maintain their ScoreCards updated at all times.
Entrants have until midnight, Pacific Standard Time, on 1/4/2009 to make any changes to their ScoreCards. Winners will be announced on or shortly after 1/5/2009.
Scoring is subject to random checks by the moderator without notice for purposes of quality control.
Miscellany
All entrants will be responsible for tracking their own progress through the Contest.

Entrants and winners retain copyright to all works submitted.
Sections 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 of Official Monthly Contest Rules apply.
Plagiarism or cheating will result in expulsion from the Contest and potentially other actions taken by Literotica.
Rules are subject to change without notice.
Questions should be directed to the moderators. You may privately contact the moderators at any time by pressing the PM button at any of their posts.
Questions may be directed to the webmaster at contests@literotica.com. Questions may be referred to the moderators.
This contest is sponsored by Literotica.com. Literotica.com claims no liability in the administration of this contest.

Did you notice that it says nothing about stories must be "stand alone" to earn points in the Official 2008 Survivor Contest?

Maybe, you should put your glasses on, those fireworks must be adding glare to your screen.

Yeah, I know, see, it doen't have any rule that says stories must meet Literotica's arbitrary definition of a stand alone story.

No where could I find a rule that states, only Bostonfictionwriter's card will be change and only his stories will be disallowed. I looked and I looked. It's just not there. I don't get it. I mean, this is the Official Survivor Contest rules posted to the Official Survivor Contest thread.

Wouldn't you think that if Literotica made a change to the rules, which I understand they can do at any time, they would post it as a new rule to their Official Survivor Contest rule list for 2008?

Moreover, wouldn't you think that if Literotica made a change to the rules, which I understand they can do at any time, they would have made a posted the new rule to the "Official Survivor Contest 2008 rule thread?

I don't get it. It just doesn't sound right to me. I seems that Literotica is doing everything it can not to pay me any money. That's weird, huh? I mean, I'd hate to believe that.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

I think what Literotica should do to cover their "big" asses, is to post new "Official Survivor Contest rules for 2008 and just say that the new rule was always there.

That way, you and all your little friends, Starrkers, can vouch for Literotica and lie that the rule change was always there.

Yeah, that's a good ploy. I wonder why they haven't thought of that before?

I'll look for the new Official Surivor Contest rules for 2008 soon.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

I shouldn't have to review the rules to follow this discussion (as I said, this whole contest seems Byzantine)--if BFW is wrong, why doesn't someone just cite the official posted rule to him? There should be a comprehensive set of official rules posted, shouldn't there? Everyone's pointing to some sort of informal rule changes. I don't understand why he isn't getting a straight "look at the official posted rules" answer to the objection he posts. Shrug.

...Because there is no "official posted rule".

There is no official rule change. Nothing stating that stories must meet Literotica's arbitrary definition of stand alone.

There's nothing in the official rules.

 

[KarennaC]

Damn, I was hoping a story would post today, but it hasn't.
*Bites nails*

Same here... I submitted a story yesterday morning, hoping to squeeze it in under the wire (my Christmas contest story posted the *same day* I submitted it), but now I"m afraid it won't post in time to count for this year's contest

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

I'm just reacting to the discussion. It seems simple enough. BFW is saying that the chapter business isn't in the official rules posted and the responses to him aren't claiming the rule is in the official rules. Seems a straightforward answer would clear that up. This contest really sounds convoluted--and a little screwy, frankly. It certainly is promoting a lot of spitting.

Yes, this is a convoluted contest and a little screwy. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it that way.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

You mean there are miscellaneous rules running around for this contest that aren't incorporated in the official rules posted? And how would someone starting in the contest in February know that? Surely there's more to this than that. Otherwise . . . wow.

What am I missing?

You're missing the part where Literotica and it's moderators screws Bostonfictionwriter out of another Survivor Contest win.

Yep, there apparently are "miscellaneous rules" that are not posted in the official Survivor Contest rules for 2008.

It doesn't seem fair, does it?

 

[starrkers]

You can post the rules all the times you want, but you have to READ them.

Let's see, there's a rule that says "Rules are subject to change without notice" and a thread called "Discussion and Announcements for the Surivorphile".

Any sensible person would make that link and watch for Announcements of rule changes in the Announcements thread.

But keep banging that drum, BFW, I think there's someone in Outer Mongolia who hasn't heard it yet.

Goodbye, I'm done.

 

[LadynStFreknBed]

Same here... I submitted a story yesterday morning, hoping to squeeze it in under the wire (my Christmas contest story posted the *same day* I submitted it), but now I"m afraid it won't post in time to count for this year's contest

I thought that as long as the story was submitted by midnight tonight and you put "SURVIVOR CONTEST" in the notes field that it counts, whether it posts in time or not. I submitted a story a few days ago with "SURVIVOR CONTEST" in the notes section. It says it will post tomorrow. I assume it still counts.. you know, since I followed the rule.

 

[LadynStFreknBed]

You're missing the part where Literotica and it's moderators screws Bostonfictionwriter out of another Survivor Contest win.

Why are you assuming that you didn't win?

Was the winner announced yet?