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[Esclava]

I simply cannot believe the number of uninformed who think it's perfectly fine to pull a cock from someone's ass then shove it down the fuckee's throat - especially if no condom was used!

Esclava

 

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[kajiraahava]

I simply cannot believe the number of uninformed who think it's perfectly fine to pull a cock from someone's ass then shove it down the fuckee's throat - especially if no condom was used!

Esclava

While I most certainly agree, perhaps it is a kink. I am a health conscious individual, which prevents me from attempting certain things which others find enjoyable. However, I have to respect their choices.

 

[A Desert Rose]

I simply cannot believe the number of uninformed who think it's perfectly fine to pull a cock from someone's ass then shove it down the fuckee's throat - especially if no condom was used!

Esclava

I read an article the other day in my nursing magazine. It said that 26 people have been gravely ill, this year, from E.choli that originated in bagged salad. There is no way to determine where the E.choli came from for sure - the hands of pickers, sorters in the factory, the ground - but E.choli begins in fecal matter. It belongs in the bowels.

It does not belong in the GI or urinary tract. When it gets into those systems, it makes you sick.

I'm in agreement with you, Esclava. But then, I'm just a nurse. What do I know?

 

[kajiraahava]

- - cut - - E.choli begins in fecal matter. It belongs in the bowels.

It does not belong in the GI or urinary tract. When it gets into those systems, it makes you sick.

I'm in agreement with you, Esclava. But then, I'm just a nurse. What do I know?

I couldn't agree with you more! Both you and Esclava have brought the "health awareness" angle to the table.<<laughs>> Oh my, did I make mention of E. choli at the table. That is most certainly not the way I meant it. At any rate, it is always a helpful reminder for those who may be curious or tempted.

ADR - Please, NEVER refer to yourself as "just a nurse". I have heard that phrase uttered from family members and employees. Believe me, IMO and experience, nurses are the backbone of healthcare. They are the patients advocate and the last bit of protection patient has from poor care and medical errors.

Regardless of our differences, my respect for your profession is endless. That alone will turn a "dark soul" into a saint any day! Speaking of E. choli, you must run across it constantly. I hear that nurses put up with an enormous amount of shit! (This is all meant to be respectful, warm, and quirky.)

 

[A Desert Rose]

I couldn't agree with you more! Both you and Esclava have brought the "health awareness" angle to the table.<<laughs>> Oh my, did I make mention of E. choli at the table. That is most certainly not the way I meant it. At any rate, it is always a helpful reminder for those who may be curious or tempted.

ADR - Please, NEVER refer to yourself as "just a nurse". I have heard that phrase uttered from family members and employees. Believe me, IMO and experience, nurses are the backbone of healthcare. They are the patients advocate and the last bit of protection patient has from poor care and medical errors.

Regardless of our differences, my respect for your profession is endless. That alone will turn a "dark soul" into a saint any day! Speaking of E. choli, you must run across it constantly. I hear that nurses put up with an enormous amount of shit! (This is all meant to be respectful, warm, and quirky.)

Thank you for your post. And yes, I deal with a lot of shit in my job... LOL.

Regarding the UTI part of my post, right now, today, I have 2 female patients being treated for UTIs. Their UAs came back full of E.choli. They were straight cathed UAs, I did one of them last week, so there was no possibility of contamination.

The urethra of a female is half as long as that of a man. Lots less travel space for bacteria to make it to the bladder and an infection. This is one reason why you see UTIs in females much more often than in males. Another is the 'wiping' issue... a lot of women don't wipe correctly after using the toliet and 'bring' bacteria from back to front (where the uretha is) instead of vise versa. The uretha on a female is more than half as close to the rectum than on a male. Again, less travel space for bacteria to make it's way to a lady's bladder.

Personally, and I can't speak for Esclava but I think she would agree, people can practice sex any way they want to. And if you (rhetorically speaking) never get infections then you are the rare person. I know that for me, being allerigic to so many different kinds of antibiotics and having a depressed white count thanks to my chemo, infections (even a common cold) are something I don't want to have happen to me. (But don't get me wrong and don't get me started - LOL I have strong feelings about the overuse of antibacterial soaps and stuff at home, so some bacteria is a good thing.)

If you (again, rhetorically speaking) are not concerned and don't get sick from the misplacement of bacteria (E.choli) in your body, then carry on and fuck everywhichway you want to. I just believe that health issues and advice should be mentioned and explained and people can take it or leave it. ;-)

Coming from me, most of you I'm sure will leave it.

 

[kajiraahava]

Thank you for your post. And yes, I deal with a lot of shit in my job... LOL.
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I know that for me, being allerigic to so many different kinds of antibiotics and having a depressed white count thanks to my chemo, infections (even a common cold) are something I don't want to have happen to me. (But don't get me wrong and don't get me started - LOL I have strong feelings about the overuse of antibacterial soaps and stuff at home, so some bacteria is a good thing.)

If you (again, rhetorically speaking) are not concerned and don't get sick from the misplacement of bacteria (E.choli) in your body, then carry on and fuck everywhichway you want to. I just believe that health issues and advice should be mentioned and explained and people can take it or leave it. ;-)

Coming from me, most of you I'm sure will leave it.

ADR it is sad that you are like me with the antibiotic allergies. (allergic to PCN & sulfa here)

Likewise, it is quite easy to send me into a conniption over the OTC home products, as well as excessive prescription use. There is an interesting correlation between the increased use of antibiotics & antibacterials and the increase & permutation of pathogens. I have not a single doubt that you see this predicament daily.

I give kudos to all healthcare professionals and other knowledgeable folk for their wise advice, which is far more valuable than "two cents". Education empowers people, allowing them to make an informed decision. What else can I say?

(ty ADR, you and I have an interesting wave-length, eh?)

 

[Kajira Callista]

now this is confusing me

 

[A Desert Rose]

ADR it is sad that you are like me with the antibiotic allergies. (allergic to PCN & sulfa here)

Likewise, it is quite easy to send me into a conniption over the OTC home products, as well as excessive prescription use. There is an interesting correlation between the increased use of antibiotics & antibacterials and the increase & permutation of pathogens. I have not a single doubt that you see this predicament daily.

I give kudos to all healthcare professionals and other knowledgeable folk for their wise advice, which is far more valuable than "two cents". Education empowers people, allowing them to make an informed decision. What else can I say?

(ty ADR, you and I have an interesting wave-length, eh?)

This is my biggest soapbox issue. I see MRSA every fucking day where I work. And MRSA is no longer a hospital/nursing home issue. It's now seen in gyms and day care centers everywhere.

We have been brainwashed to believe that clean is the end-all be-all and we have created way too many supergerms because of it. We can no longer combat them with simple antibiotics. They are resistant to nearly every ABT (antibiotic) we have. Vancomycin and Levaquin are really all that is left. (On my list of ABT allergies, Levaquin has recently been added... to Penicillin, sulfa, Keflex and Avelox. And when you are allergic to one, as I'm sure you know, you will eventually be allergic to their "cousins" too.)

Which brings up another issue for me... many people confuse a side effect with an allergy. They are NOT the same thing.

And you are so right.... Education empowers people, allowing them to make informed health decisions. Great point.

 

[A Desert Rose]

now this is confusing me

How are you confused? I could try and clear this up for you... maybe. LOL

 

[Kajira Callista]

How are you confused? I could try and clear this up for you... maybe. LOL

i dunno, maybe i should stay confused...what do you think?

 

[A Desert Rose]

i dunno, maybe i should stay confused...what do you think?

Confused can be charming. ;-)

 

[Kajira Callista]

Confused can be charming. ;-)

*shrug* its easier

 

[kajiraahava]

*shrug* its easier

Most often, yes Ma'am. <<agrees>>

 

[Kajira Callista]

Most often, yes Ma'am. <<agrees>>

*looks around for "Ma'am"

 

[kajiraahava]

This is my biggest soapbox issue. I see MRSA every fucking day where I work. And MRSA is no longer a hospital/nursing home issue. It's now seen in gyms and day care centers everywhere.

We have been brainwashed to believe that clean is the end-all be-all and we have created way too many supergerms because of it. We can no longer combat them with simple antibiotics. They are resistant to nearly every ABT (antibiotic) we have. Vancomycin and Levaquin are really all that is left. (On my list of ABT allergies, Levaquin has recently been added... to Penicillin, sulfa, Keflex and Avelox. And when you are allergic to one, as I'm sure you know, you will eventually be allergic to their "cousins" too.)

Which brings up another issue for me... many people confuse a side effect with an allergy. They are NOT the same thing.

And you are so right.... Education empowers people, allowing them to make informed health decisions. Great point.

Perhaps I see not only a hijack, but an entire thread transformation that we have managed here.

My first response, strictly out of habit, was to respond "Oh my gawwd, do you know what a BITCH that is to deal with?" <<pitiful slang>> Well of COURSE you do! When you (rhetorically speaking ) begin your medical career on MRSA WARDS, it tends to have a life-altering effect.

Ouch, I'm sorry about the Levaquin. <<crossing fingers for the Vanc>> I could only begin to imagine the frustration, when attempting to cover allergies, from a nursing standpoint. Immediately after reporting my allergies, I automatically say, "Causing anaphylactic shock." Typically, I get a chuckle.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Perhaps I see not only a hijack, but an entire thread transformation that we have managed here.

My first response, strictly out of habit, was to respond "Oh my gawwd, do you know what a BITCH that is to deal with?" <<pitiful slang>> Well of COURSE you do! When you (rhetorically speaking ) begin your medical career on MRSA WARDS, it tends to have a life-altering effect.

Ouch, I'm sorry about the Levaquin. <<crossing fingers for the Vanc>> I could only begin to imagine the frustration, when attempting to cover allergies, from a nursing standpoint. Immediately after reporting my allergies, I automatically say, "Causing anaphylactic shock." Typically, I get a chuckle.

And that is a good thing for you to say. It shows the medical person that right off the bat, you understand what an ALLERGY is. So knowing that I'm preaching to the choir when I say this to you, I'll speak to those who lurk... LOL:

I ask "do you have any drug allergies?"

I get, "I can't take codiene (or whatever.) It makes me throw up."

That is a side effect or adverse reaction. Not an allergy. Look up any drug and the first side effect will be nausea/vomiting. Of course, the challenge is to prevent the vomiting so the patient will be able to keep down and metabolize the drug for the desired cure effect.

On a personal note: One thing I'm lucky about is that the first day of my 5 day chemo regime, I get extremely sick and vomit a lot, but that doesn't start until 5 or 6 hours after I've taken my first dose. By then the drug is out of my stomach and in my system.

 

[Etoile]

I simply cannot believe the number of uninformed who think it's perfectly fine to pull a cock from someone's ass then shove it down the fuckee's throat - especially if no condom was used!

Starting from this, and reading down the rest of the page, I'm still confused. Is it just the E. coli issue? I have honestly not heard of any problems resulting from ass-to-mouth play so I am simply ignorant on the matter.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Starting from this, and reading down the rest of the page, I'm still confused. Is it just the E. coli issue? I have honestly not heard of any problems resulting from ass-to-mouth play so I am simply ignorant on the matter.

Thank you. I'm sorry I misspelled E.coli.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Starting from this, and reading down the rest of the page, I'm still confused. Is it just the E. coli issue? I have honestly not heard of any problems resulting from ass-to-mouth play so I am simply ignorant on the matter.

Quote : Porn Industry Health Document
There is currently a trendy fetish for ass-to-mouth contact, using everything from penises and fingers to sex toys, and there are even a few porn series specifically devoted to showing the practice. Ass-to-mouth contact puts the recipient at great risk for contracting Hepatitis A, which can be treated but not cured. The penetrator is at no risk in this situation. Hepatitis A comes from getting fecal matter in the mouth, and many starlets reduce their chances by taking multiple enemas before anal sex scenes, though this is not a foolproof measure. Anal-to-vaginal penetration is another sex act fetish, which by bringing E. coli bacteria from the anus to the vagina causes a severe bacterial infection. Again, enemas are used beforehand, but this is not a reliable safeguard.

 

[myinnerslut]

I read an article the other day in my nursing magazine. It said that 26 people have been gravely ill, this year, from E.choli that originated in bagged salad. There is no way to determine where the E.choli came from for sure - the hands of pickers, sorters in the factory, the ground - but E.choli begins in fecal matter. It belongs in the bowels.

It does not belong in the GI or urinary tract. When it gets into those systems, it makes you sick.

I'm in agreement with you, Esclava. But then, I'm just a nurse. What do I know?

Quote : Porn Industry Health Document
There is currently a trendy fetish for ass-to-mouth contact, using everything from penises and fingers to sex toys, and there are even a few porn series specifically devoted to showing the practice. Ass-to-mouth contact puts the recipient at great risk for contracting Hepatitis A, which can be treated but not cured. The penetrator is at no risk in this situation. Hepatitis A comes from getting fecal matter in the mouth, and many starlets reduce their chances by taking multiple enemas before anal sex scenes, though this is not a foolproof measure. Anal-to-vaginal penetration is another sex act fetish, which by bringing E. coli bacteria from the anus to the vagina causes a severe bacterial infection. Again, enemas are used beforehand, but this is not a reliable safeguard.

the health aspect really intrests me. what if you use a condom while engaging in anal, and then remove it before engaging in any oral? does that make it safe? safer? or does itmake no diffrence at all?

 

[Etoile]

Thank you. I'm sorry I misspelled E.coli.

I wasn't correcting your spelling, I was italicizing because it's a Latin thingy, though I don't know what the E part stands for!

 

[Etoile]

Quote : Porn Industry Health Document
There is currently a trendy fetish for ass-to-mouth contact, using everything from penises and fingers to sex toys, and there are even a few porn series specifically devoted to showing the practice. Ass-to-mouth contact puts the recipient at great risk for contracting Hepatitis A, which can be treated but not cured. The penetrator is at no risk in this situation. Hepatitis A comes from getting fecal matter in the mouth, and many starlets reduce their chances by taking multiple enemas before anal sex scenes, though this is not a foolproof measure. Anal-to-vaginal penetration is another sex act fetish, which by bringing E. coli bacteria from the anus to the vagina causes a severe bacterial infection. Again, enemas are used beforehand, but this is not a reliable safeguard.

Aha! Excellent information, thank you!

 

[A Desert Rose]

I wasn't correcting your spelling, I was italicizing because it's a Latin thingy, though I don't know what the E part stands for!

Dr. Escherichia... the doctor who discovered the bacterium.

 

[A Desert Rose]

the health aspect really intrests me. what if you use a condom while engaging in anal, and then remove it before engaging in any oral? does that make it safe? safer? or does itmake no diffrence at all?

Yes, condoms make it safer. Condoms make a lot of things safer. But the key word is safer.

Do you want to be safer or safest?

You know, this all depends on your kink and the risks you are willing to take for it. Ass-to-mouth sex is no different than eating contaminated lettuce or meat or not washing your hands after using the toliet and then preparing dinner. (does anyone remember the great $15m lawsuit against Jack-in-the-box or am I the only ancient body here?) This is no different to me than scat play.

I, for all the reasons I've already posted, do not want that risk. That's just me. Everyone is entitled to the sexual adventures they want to parttake in.

If you're willing to take the risk... I say go for it. I'm no authority on anything, really.