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it's been ages since i've had a gin and tonic. how do you choose a good gin?
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it's been ages since i've had a gin and tonic. how do you choose a good gin?
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I have no idea. LOL My ex always drank Bombay Sapphire.
Anyway, the recipe for 2 (which recommended Hendrick's Gin) was:
Squeeze two limes.
Slice rinds and place in pitcher.
Pour four jiggers of gin into pitcher and mash.
Pour juice into pitcher. Mash more.
Divide between two glasses of ice.
Top with tonic.
It just.sounds.good.
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cheers!
grey goose goes great with a cherry limeade from sonic!
Ooooh...that sounds delicious!
Captain and Diet over here. Cheers, ladies!
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There's a guy in another thread serving up Cialis Enema Water and Gingers.
It's aged, but not in oak barrels.
It's aged, but not in oak barrels.
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Yes, I know. I wasn't trying to impugn your personal ethics; just giving my opinion on dog training.
Aren't you a cat person, anyway?
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cheers!
grey goose goes great with a cherry limeade from sonic!
fuck yeah!
intothewoods
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I've just started to read up on dog training, particularly older dogs. Ours actually have been trained in many ways, despite the fact that their training began post-puppyhood, although they are far from perfect. Evidently it's not impossible to train older dogs.
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I'm an animal person. I love dogs, my lifestyle is simply not suited for a dog at this point, unfortunately. I cannot think of getting a dog until I can offer it a stable, suitable environment. I take pet ownership very seriously.
Cats are much lower maintenance but I don't even have a cat right now. I'm going to wait - as much as it kills me - until we have purchased our house and we're settled, then I'll stock it with furry critters.
For now, I will be content as a part time pet sitter.
I concur, 100% with your dog training ideals but unfortunately, the majority of pet owners are not capable, or even remotely interested in doing the work required. If I had a dollar for every incompetent pet owner I saw over my five years in the vet clinic, well, I would be writing this post from my gold-encrusted yacht.
It is hard enough to get most owners to do the basics - vaccines, flea prevention, deworming, etc - getting them to properly train and socialize their dogs is nigh on impossible. The gentle leader is a practical solution. It is effective, it does not hurt the dog, (as choke chains, prong collars and shock collars do), and it is cheap enough to make it a possible for even low income families to afford. It has saved many dogs from being dumped off at the SPCA or worse. So there's where I stand.
Ideal world, no. Real world, yes.
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Of course not. Look at all I've learned in the last few years.
Tonight, just a simple bottle of Sam Adams Boston Lager paired with a sensitively grilled Boca burger.
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Of course not. Look at all I've learned in the last few years.
Tonight, just a simple bottle of Sam Adams Boston Lager paired with a sensitively grilled Boca burger.
You grilled a boca burger? I want to grill some ramps and leeks tomorrow.
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Ramps?
And yes, Boca burgers do well on the grill. I get the larger size at Costco.
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This has got to killing Netzach.
A sad state of affairs, but I guess that "real world" characterization is mostly right.
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This has got to killing Netzach.
LOL, yes.
Sad, yes. That job was an eye opener...not in a good way much of the time.
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Of course it's not impossible.
It can be heartbreaking, if the dog's been abused. But the same basic rules apply. Patience and consistency are key.
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hello..... do I know you?.... this will be my 97th post on the thread... in only a handful of which I have mentioned a beverage.
ITW has yet to tell me to get the fuck off. If she did, I'd consider it. Maybe.
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Quick topic digression...
K, question for you re: dog training. I have trained a number of dogs and have found different tactics work with different personalities. But my golden retriever did not respond to the gentle leader at all. For him, the choke chain was the only thing that worked. I was initially opposed to the choke chain but after talking through it with my vet and the training group I worked with, learned how to use it properly (as, in, it needs to lie high up under the neck/throat - so as not to actually choke or hurt the dog). And yes, it was still uncomfortable for him when he tried to do something he wasn't supposed to be doing.
For that particular dog (as a rakish youngster, anyway), the choke chain was very effective - and he was never hurt or punished with it. What I wish to say here is that it can be a positive training aid when used properly. For us, after 6 or 8 weeks, it was never again necessary.
This all about this particular dog, of course. The choke chain will never be my first choice, but I do think it can be an effective and humane training aid when used properly.
Back to topic...water with lemon. Early flight tomorrow.
K, question for you re: dog training. I have trained a number of dogs and have found different tactics work with different personalities. But my golden retriever did not respond to the gentle leader at all. For him, the choke chain was the only thing that worked. I was initially opposed to the choke chain but after talking through it with my vet and the training group I worked with, learned how to use it properly (as, in, it needs to lie high up under the neck/throat - so as not to actually choke or hurt the dog). And yes, it was still uncomfortable for him when he tried to do something he wasn't supposed to be doing.
For that particular dog (as a rakish youngster, anyway), the choke chain was very effective - and he was never hurt or punished with it. What I wish to say here is that it can be a positive training aid when used properly. For us, after 6 or 8 weeks, it was never again necessary.
This all about this particular dog, of course. The choke chain will never be my first choice, but I do think it can be an effective and humane training aid when used properly.
Back to topic...water with lemon. Early flight tomorrow.
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Hi LB! Good to see you again!
Yes, all dogs are different. I have two dear friends who owned a black lab that was...I hate to say it...almost untrainable. They had owned and successfully trained dogs before but Max, wow, he was from another planet. Planet Hyperactive. Unfortunately, labs are over bred, (as are golden retrievers and many other breeds), so I have a feeling that was a contributing factor. They knocked themselves out trying to get him to at least a functional level of behaviour. He finally settled down...at the age of five.
So, there are exceptions but as you mentioned the choke collar should not be the first method of training. And most people do not know how to use them and do not take the time to learn. The majority of dogs do not need a choke collar, or even the gentle leader, to be trained properly.
And, frankly, from the thousands of dogs and owners I saw at the clinic and continue to see in daily life, what I see is that the majority of dog owners are just lazy and/or uneducated.
Have a good flight!
