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[rosco rathbone]

Re: Re: Re: Re: ROSCOS BACK AND YOUR GOING TO BE SORRY "HEY LA, HAY LA, THE MASTERS BACK!

In crusty-old-sea-captain terms, anyone without a beard is a cabin boy.

Either that, or Esclava is a drag king (well, with 'my boy', maybe more of a drag prince...), and you're trompin' your big gender-anxious boots all over Rosco's tenative and vulnerable exploration of his latent homoerotic tendences. Shame on you, Etoile! I call natty-nat-nat no touchbacks!

shadow boy is so charming; so erudite; so learned; so pleasing to the eye; that methinks he is almost pure in drag.

you wouldn't do that to us pure, would you??

esclava, i don't know what the fuck you are, but we pervy seamen (semen) like the cut of your jib.

now it comes to my attention that with all this railery this thread may seem another rosco vanity thread (tm analize). let's try to turn our thoughts to themes of dark mastery. as a matter of fact, clear the decks , i am working on post about the Work Ethic of the Master.

rosko

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Errgh... but your thread has already worked wonders in my case, Milord... er Captain... I mean Master (I'm a newbie and soooo confused!)

Enlightment Occurs: Somehow I couldn't help but return again to this thread. Again and again I would return and read, until today... A Thought! My G-D, I must be a Masochist to keep coming back! Hmmm.... Eureka!

Blessings on you all for helping my find myself

 

[rosco rathbone]

Errgh... but your thread has already worked wonders in my case, Milord... er Captain... I mean Master (I'm a newbie and soooo confused!)

Enlightment Occurs: Somehow I couldn't help but return again to this thread. Again and again I would return and read, until today... A Thought! My G-D, I must be a Masochist to keep coming back! Hmmm.... Eureka!

Blessings on you all for helping my find myself

Oh, bite your tongue.

 

[the shadow of a boy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ROSCOS BACK AND YOUR GOING TO BE SORRY "HEY LA, HAY LA, THE MASTE

shadow boy is so charming; so erudite; so learned; so pleasing to the eye; that methinks he is almost pure in drag.

It's been more than half my life since I looked anything even vaugely resembling pure in drag.

 

[Esclava]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ROSCOS BACK AND YOUR GOING TO BE SORRY "HEY LA, HAY LA, THE MASTERS BACK!

... esclava, i don't know what the fuck you are, but we pervy seamen (semen) like the cut of your jib...

rosko

This one thanks ye, mon Captain. My jib is cut as a gash with pink in the middle and a hole that holds you tightly while producing a deep massage during orgasm. It is what feeds my naughtiness and offers my Master many hours of pleasure .

In quiet humility, I await the post on the Work Ethic of the Master.

Esclava

 

[catalina_francisco]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ROSCOS BACK AND YOUR GOING TO BE SORRY "HEY LA, HAY LA, THE M

It's been more than half my life since I looked anything even vaugely resembling pure in drag.

I have to actually say that by your remarks you are actually reinforcing RR joke.

We have to carefully consider and disect what TSOB has said. The question arises how does TSOB knows what Pure looks like in drag?

Pure being the private person that he is, has never shared with us a picture of himself in drag.

TSOB having seen Pure indrag must mean he has a more intimate knowledge of Pure then anyone else.

Hmmm maybe we do have another scarlet vixen.

Francisco.

just in case anyone does not get it this is a joke, or is it?

 

[the shadow of a boy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ROSCOS BACK AND YOUR GOING TO BE SORRY "HEY LA, HAY LA, T

...TSOB having seen Pure indrag must mean he has a more intimate knowledge of Pure then anyone else...

That's pure speculation. I couldn't have had intimate knowledge of anyone truthfully known as Pure. And besides, an examination of my posting history will satisfy anyone that I've frequently had rather decidedly impure thoughts...

 

[rosco rathbone]

Shadow of a boy, you are one S.O.B.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Oh, bite your tongue.

Uh, wouldn't I have to be a Switch to do that properly, Oh Wisebone?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Uh, wouldn't I have to be a Switch to do that properly, Oh Wisebone?

er, you got me there

scratches head

 

[Esclava]

er, you got me there

scratches head

Ummmm....which head, MRosco?????

Esclava

 

[Etoile]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ROSCOS BACK AND YOUR GOING TO BE SORRY "HEY LA, HAY LA, T

Pure being the private person that he is, has never shared with us a picture of himself in drag.

So wait. What gender is Pure, again?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ROSCOS BACK AND YOUR GOING TO BE SORRY "HEY LA, HAY LA, T

So wait. What gender is Pure, again?

I've seen Pure. He is 100% all man.

 

[Netzach]

Aren't you the social butterfly.

I'm first absorbing the black socks and the one foot entangled in pants in your av. They obviously aren't the first place your eye goes.

Nice, utterly abject, touches.

 

[Esclava]

Aren't you the social butterfly.

I'm first absorbing the black socks and the one foot entangled in pants in your av. They obviously aren't the first place your eye goes.

Nice, utterly abject, touches.

It IS an interesting av. I like looking at a picture of what someone else would see if they walk up as I kneel in obedient service and worship Master's staff. It intrigues me.

Esclava

 

[Etoile]

It IS an interesting av. I like looking at a picture of what someone else would see if they walk up as I kneel in obedient service and worship Master's staff. It intrigues me.

Oooh, that is a nice way of imagining it.

 

[rosco rathbone]

WARNING SIGNS OF FALSE DOMINATION

) Controlling behavior due to fear of losing their partner.

A) Isolating the submissive from family and friends
B) Discouraging self sufficient behavior
C) Not allowing any social interaction which does not include the dominant
D) Out of control jealousy

2) Explosive temper

3) Behaves like a spoiled child when not getting his/her way

4) Abuses drugs/alcohol

5) Does not take responsibility for mistakes

6) Uses unhealthy behavior to gain control over the submissive

A) Emotional blackmail
example: Keeping the submissive in a constant state of fear that the relationship will end if they don't get their way.

B) Emotional Withdrawal
example: Using the "silent treatment" or physically withdrawing and cutting off all contact rather than communicating and taking responsibility for the situation.

C) Withdrawal of affection

Refusing any/all intimacy as a punishment which can be quite damaging and reinforces the fear that the submissive will lose the relationship unless he/she gives into this type of blackmail.

 

[Netzach]

I can't argue with that, it's actually the first sign of logic I've seen all day.

Although I prefer to call it "do you really want to be in this relationship?"

not 'false Domination."

 

[rosco rathbone]

I can't argue with that, it's actually the first sign of logic I've seen all day.

Although I prefer to call it "do you really want to be in this relationship?"

not 'false Domination."

You think you are pretty @#$% smart, dont you.

 

[Netzach]

Not especially, I'm just a little shyer about pissing off the world than you are.

 

[Esclava]

Thanks, Rosco!

I wish I had known those signs BEFORE I had my really bad experience. I might be a thoroughly happy submissive serving a strong, loving Dom in RL right now.

Instead I'm a RL single submissive serving a strong, loving OL Master - yet craving the physical relationship I have missed.

Oh, btw, piss off the world all you want - there are plenty out there that deserve it!

Esclava

 

[Pure]

A Is 'false domination' getting one's way because some improper motivation (fear of losing; etc. in general, emotional inbalance).

OR

B Is 'false domination' a getting one's way that occurs without full, free, and informed consent? (I.e., it occurs because the 'sub' is fearing to be left alone, and thus toes the line.)

Would one or both of these capture your lists?

I like the lists ok (recognizing that we're all a bit unbalanced) but it seems to me that a whole class of 'false' or 'phoney' dominations are left out. Or maybe you havent said what a true one is.

A Maybe it's getting ones' way and being a balanced secure person

B Maybe it's getting ones way with full and informed consent

or both.

What's left out-- perhaps you didn't intend to cover this.

{Added: In what follows, assume Joe, Pete, and Roger have passed all the previously posted 'roscoe' tests of emotional balance.}

Suppose Joe and Mariska have this routine worked out. J acts like the plantation owner, and Mariska acts out the slave.

OR Pete and Nancy do a lot of playing 'horsey'.

OR Roger 'says' he's lord of the manor, but Leslie in fact, is the power behind the throne (i.e., is getting her way routinely).

IOW, would you agree that only if you know positively what occurring -- not what's not occurring based on the lists-- can one decide on whether there's 'true domination.'

It's sorta like saying, "You're dealing with a phoney doctor if he keeps looking things up in the Merck manual." But that test, or several like it, won't ensure you get a real doctor

 

[Esclava]

Hi Pure!

This one submits that it also has to include those that "get their way" by not exercising honesty in what they want and what they have to give. If a Dom does not declare his sado nature after being informed that he is dealing with a non-maso sub, there is nothing but unhappiness to be had by both until the relationship ends. Unfortunately, for me, our commitment was a commitment. Fortunately, it was broken when he moved out of the state to accept a new job and I couldn't (wouldn't) go with him.

Dishonesty is a cruel, but efficient teacher. It only takes one brush with it to learn its hard lessons.

Esclava

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Re: WARNING SIGNS OF FALSE DOMINATION

) Controlling behavior due to fear of losing their partner.

A) Isolating the submissive from family and friends
B) Discouraging self sufficient behavior
C) Not allowing any social interaction which does not include the dominant
D) Out of control jealousy

2) Explosive temper

3) Behaves like a spoiled child when not getting his/her way

4) Abuses drugs/alcohol

5) Does not take responsibility for mistakes

6) Uses unhealthy behavior to gain control over the submissive

A) Emotional blackmail
example: Keeping the submissive in a constant state of fear that the relationship will end if they don't get their way.

B) Emotional Withdrawal
example: Using the "silent treatment" or physically withdrawing and cutting off all contact rather than communicating and taking responsibility for the situation.

C) Withdrawal of affection

Refusing any/all intimacy as a punishment which can be quite damaging and reinforces the fear that the submissive will lose the relationship unless he/she gives into this type of blackmail.

Ahah!! Forgot one telling warning sign!

D) No sense of humor

(You don't display that one, even if I'm not sure you got my hilarious little riposte about switches, to your 'bite your tongue' comment.)

 

[rosco rathbone]

Re: Re: WARNING SIGNS OF FALSE DOMINATION

Ahah!! Forgot one telling warning sign!

D) No sense of humor

(You don't display that one, even if I'm not sure you got my hilarious little riposte about switches, to your 'bite your tongue' comment.)

*Raised eyebrow*

There are a lot of little people running around underfoot who fnid themselves to be exceedingly droll in this thread.

Now make me my tea.