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Etoile said:
whats a spongemonkey? is it scary?
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Spongmonkey, and that depends on your point of view! You may have seen them in Quizno's commercials, but they originated here:Kajira Callista said:
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Etoile said:
oh my goodness, thats pretty scary lol
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rosco rathbone said:It's never pleasant to have to slap someone down, sunfox, and normally i would say this in PM to spare you the embarrassment; but since your shortsighted and know-nothing commentary is now publicly availible to newcomers and inexperienced people, this slapdown must necesarily be public as well.
I would think you'd think it quite a pleasure to slap someone down, since that's how you make yourself feel superior. I'm so depressed that you didn't spare me the embarrassment you felt inclined to heap upon your own head.. but let me allow you to keep the ball rolling.
Your arrogance and bigotry are pathetic and it's obvious that the most confused newbie here could probably give you a lesson in submissive psychology if the doors to her heart were opened. It's people like you who are largely responsible for the plight of the deeply submissive woman in this scene and in this society. Embittered and wounded yourself, you seek to label other women who are in touch with their deepest desires as "damaged". I pity you.
How do I manage to be both arrogant and pathetic at the same time? I must be talented. Perhaps I'm a Dominant. Oh wait, no.. according to you, since I prefer adults who can make decisions and don't need me to wipe their asses... I must not be a Dominant. If you can't see that it's your egomaniacal, holier-than-thou attitude that is responsible for your so-called plight of the 'deeply submissive woman', then far be it from me to give you the wake up call. I'd pity you, but you're so far beneath my notice, I wouldn't cross the street to piss on you if you were on fire.
It may well be that you are attracted to the scene simply because it will have you (we are pretty accepting); because you can gain a bit of status in the community; or more likely because of a narcissistic and immature attraction to a concept of submissision that is about 73% fantasy and 27% bullshit (internet variety more than likely).
Thank you, Dr. Freud. If it weren't for your insightful and educated personal analysis of someone you don't know at all, I can't imagine how I could continue. Why... I might have to be institutionalized like the last poor child you picked up.
Children like you give submissive women a bad name. A real bad name. You may however serve the purpose of attracting a similarly callow and shallow "dom" in order to have a partner for your little bedroom games; thus taking him out of circulation where he might hurt a real submissive.
Again, what you know about me fits into a thimble. Much like your penis likely does. Boys like you.. little, "My mommy never breast fed me long enough" whiners that can't take care of themselves do serve a purpose though. You leave all the real Masters open for the girls like me who can be an asset and a pride to their Dominant. Thanks for that.
sunfox, I am a dominant master. I've been called every name in the book and your opinion of me personally just makes me chuckle. But I am not going to stand idly by while you spread your disgusting slurs about the women I protect and nurture; while you portray their deepest desires as worthy of contempt and while you do your best to add to the atmosphere of this society that makes it impossible for many submissive women to seek the fulfilment of their needs without shame.
You're a dominant master. As opposed to a submissive one, I suppose? And what are you going to do about my 'disgusting slurs', O Dominant one? A true submissive doesn't need you to feel whole, or to be an entire person. What she needs is a Dominant to make her fulfilled. Being and adult, and being fulfilled, are two different things. Perhaps someday you'll manage to figure out that point... but I doubt it. If you in any way think that I portray my own desires, and those of the women and men on this board that I have come to appreciate, as worthy of contempt, then perhaps you should pull your head out of your ass, and try reading my posts instead of going off like the uneducated, backward controller that you are.
sunfox, you need to think about the effect your words, spoken in selfish rage, have on other people. There are a lot of young submissives who are going to look up to anyone with a pretense of experience such
as you are affecting; and not be able to seperate the bullshit from the...er...other bullshit.
dismissed.
Rage? Now you're telling me I'm angry? Thanks. I'd thought I was rather amused.. but what do I know? I'm just a damaged submissive who can't go through life without a Master to hold my hand when I cross the street.
I'm glad that others on the thread have had a chance to experience your vitriol and vicious assumptions for themselves, and have chosen to laugh you off as the pitiful clown that you are. I look at your self-important, self-righteous posing, and I sincerely hope that the women you gather are exactly as mentally inept as you are, because god help the intelligent, capable woman that gets swept up in your litany of shame and degradation.
I think I'll stick to a Master that appreciates me for the capable person that I am, not one who thinks of me as incapable and ruined simply because I am submissive at heart. You've shown us the true face of false Dominant abuse. Bravo.
Oh yes.. and dismissed.
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My god I must have a very strange way of telling jokes, maybe I should put smilies on every single line I make.Kajira Callista said:
For the rest I must say that I find it ironic how many have jumped on the bandwagon when I was trying to defend myself and Catalina from a troll while I did not see anyone coming to our support, with 2 exceptions .
It is a matter of fact that to expect anyone to take abuse and just sit there and take it is an unrealistic expectation. I do not actually think of myself as a saint so I do not turn the other cheek, nor do I think it a productive move to do so.
Francisco.
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lark sparrow said:I'm glad it was all a little respectful joke that was let out slowly, and not intended to cast doubt or destruction
And all you really had to was ask lol. I suppose I should be flattered that some here think a tremendous more about me than I think about them... something has to keep the gossip mill alive!
Lark, you must be aware by now that I have only the highest respect for you. I enjoy reading your posts and the way you are capable of putting wonderful thoughts into words.
It was never my intention to start a smear campaign against you, nor have I. I thought it was pretty clear it was a joke to start. I mean come on who could actually think that you and RR are the same person. It would be like saying that I am Pure.
http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=pure+literotica+profile&btnG=Google+zoeken&lr=
Francisco.
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sunfox said:*snaps her fingers*
My secret attempt to stalk lark has been discovered!
And Etoile, how -could- you post those awful Quizno's things.. they make my stomach turn.
I thought you were stalking us, that is not fair! Lark you can not steal stalkers from us like that.
Francisco.
This is a joke, just making sure everyone realises this, I am not actually saying that LS is stealing stalkers from me.
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Well what a beautiful morning. I wake up to the snow I have been watching for the last couple of months....hmmmm, do I dare make my first snowball....and a barrage of posts in this thread both supportive and denigrating of the thread direction. Interesting, the views some have that is. I do not think anyone here comes off looking perfect and above redemption, myself included, but I do think in all fairness there are aspects to consider.
First for me, I look and react to a poster based on overall posting history that I have experienced. That does not mean I hold grudges, or judge a person, but when you have been personally attacked here (let's see, page 1 of the thread when I had purposely avoided the thread and not posted) and elsewhere by a particular person, and without grounds, who surprisingly can make good posts from time to time, I doubt any of you, and I mean any, would sit there and not say a thing, turning the other cheek as F says. I am not a big fan of hypocrisy, so I don't do that, nor do I run to someone else to rescue me as some I know here do, nor do I make excuses for myself, but I also do not lay down like a beaten dog and lick my wounds, submissive or not.
Secondly, I also look at the legitimacy of a person's words, and sorry, this whole thread comes off to me as a huge joke, whether to attention seek or not I don't know, but as the submissives here, and a Dominant or two have pointed out in various ways, the so-called advice is very off, so I fail to see where this was ever going to be a shining thread for new submissives to draw from....shudder at the thought actually. Giving the benefit of the doubt, perhaps it was intended as a different version of JM's highly successful 'New Sub Haven'
And lastly, while we are talking about submissives, under no circumstances do I see it required to stand by and watch someone put down and ridicule submissives as a whole, as well as personally attack the submissives who visit the thread. Oh, I forgot, RR was trying to HELP submissives because of his genuine concern for their welfare?
So while perhaps at moments my words could have been worded different, I am not regretting for a moment posting to a thread that I see as harmful, and insulting to all submissives. As I have said, I don't see moderating as anything to do with having my say on the board, the same as I did before moderating. It really is not that lofty a position, just another human member of an existing and thriving community who shares the same rights and realities as everyone, who can speak when they see outright attacks on fellow posters, left, right, and centre. Interestingly, some have wanted to speak out, but been afraid....I can understand that.
Catalina
First for me, I look and react to a poster based on overall posting history that I have experienced. That does not mean I hold grudges, or judge a person, but when you have been personally attacked here (let's see, page 1 of the thread when I had purposely avoided the thread and not posted) and elsewhere by a particular person, and without grounds, who surprisingly can make good posts from time to time, I doubt any of you, and I mean any, would sit there and not say a thing, turning the other cheek as F says. I am not a big fan of hypocrisy, so I don't do that, nor do I run to someone else to rescue me as some I know here do, nor do I make excuses for myself, but I also do not lay down like a beaten dog and lick my wounds, submissive or not.
Secondly, I also look at the legitimacy of a person's words, and sorry, this whole thread comes off to me as a huge joke, whether to attention seek or not I don't know, but as the submissives here, and a Dominant or two have pointed out in various ways, the so-called advice is very off, so I fail to see where this was ever going to be a shining thread for new submissives to draw from....shudder at the thought actually. Giving the benefit of the doubt, perhaps it was intended as a different version of JM's highly successful 'New Sub Haven'
And lastly, while we are talking about submissives, under no circumstances do I see it required to stand by and watch someone put down and ridicule submissives as a whole, as well as personally attack the submissives who visit the thread. Oh, I forgot, RR was trying to HELP submissives because of his genuine concern for their welfare?
So while perhaps at moments my words could have been worded different, I am not regretting for a moment posting to a thread that I see as harmful, and insulting to all submissives. As I have said, I don't see moderating as anything to do with having my say on the board, the same as I did before moderating. It really is not that lofty a position, just another human member of an existing and thriving community who shares the same rights and realities as everyone, who can speak when they see outright attacks on fellow posters, left, right, and centre. Interestingly, some have wanted to speak out, but been afraid....I can understand that.
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Maybe RR was using this thread to make a point? And maybe everyone missed it? BTW (and noooooooooo im not saying i agree with all he says) if you read what he has written without looking for fault, there are a bunch of things he says that make a whole lot of sense. He may have a very different way of expressing things but you all should already know that when you click on his thread....with that in mind, reread (i just did) and see that there are alot of good points made as well as some most of us dont get. And IMHO we should give the nonposting readers a bit more credit if they are reading this thread, they dont only see what RR posts they also see the disagreement posted. Im pretty sure by seeing both sides they can make thier own decisions on what is right and wrong for them personally. So how im seeing it is RR is posting to get everyone in an uproar, and in return by the posts that follow, ppl are getting some real good info from the thread.
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catalina_francisco said:
Don't worry... I'm an equal opportunity stalker! I have lots of room in my needy little heart to love you all! (In that scary trenchcoat wearing, standing in the rain, staring at your front door all night kind of way
)
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May the Gods bless those people that share. And I agree that it would be better to stick in and try to contribute. That's why I keep coming back here. When there is a subject I feel I can speak to, I do.
But I'm not one who posts just so I can up my count, or so I can share (or more accurately inflict upon) my all knowing point of view with those who couldn't give a shit about what I think. When I notice that the subject is muddled by all of this BS that all who read the thread can plainly see, I don't bother. I have in the past, but as you see, my post count is low, so I certainly can't know much. (according to some around here anyhow) and I've been slammed more than once. I don't like it and don't usually have the time for it. There are other folks in real life that seek my counsel, and unless you actually want it, you don't get it. I'd rather spend my time on them.
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Wait a second, I'm a clam?
Wildrose, you are correct in that personal feelings got involved early on in this thread but that is the nature of the thread itself.
The great wise Rosco, did not open this thread as a place for ALL dominants to share their knowledge, but rather just his own. Such an all-inclusive endevour is bound to bring about criticism.
Had the all-knowing decade-old dom Rosco started this as a thread for subs to seek advice from a variety of dominants, I highly doubt it would have degraded into what it is.
You ask if we can't learn from others, of course we can. And so that is why an all-inclusive thread is so frustrating.
Is Rosco the end all be all of domination that he can so proudly boast as to answer all the sub's questions? Perhaps Rosco, oh I tremble to think it, might answer wrongly...shudder.
Oh and it was Rosco that chose to slam Catalina without her ever saying a word. Very dom like I say. Of course every true dominant takes the time to participate in playground games.
This thread, as so many others, is simply indicitive of the egomaniacs that have convinced themselves they are truly special.
Wildrose, you are correct in that personal feelings got involved early on in this thread but that is the nature of the thread itself.
The great wise Rosco, did not open this thread as a place for ALL dominants to share their knowledge, but rather just his own. Such an all-inclusive endevour is bound to bring about criticism.
Had the all-knowing decade-old dom Rosco started this as a thread for subs to seek advice from a variety of dominants, I highly doubt it would have degraded into what it is.
You ask if we can't learn from others, of course we can. And so that is why an all-inclusive thread is so frustrating.
Is Rosco the end all be all of domination that he can so proudly boast as to answer all the sub's questions? Perhaps Rosco, oh I tremble to think it, might answer wrongly...shudder.
Oh and it was Rosco that chose to slam Catalina without her ever saying a word. Very dom like I say. Of course every true dominant takes the time to participate in playground games.
This thread, as so many others, is simply indicitive of the egomaniacs that have convinced themselves they are truly special.
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catalina_francisco said:
First a liar, now a thief! With respect like this, may I please try some good old fashioned scorn for a change?
Water under the bridge, Francisco.
Or as some might say... a bridge over troubled water, is like a fish on dry land, with hungry fisherman casting their line into a dirty stream with smooth rocks who have no hunger for the hook.
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MEMO FROM THE MASTER#2
I am out of town on pervy business this weekend; so I will not be able to put false submissives; fake dominants; misguided wanderers and searching newbies in their proper places until next week.
Submissives; "keep those cards and emails coming"; as they sort of used to say at the end of the mouseketeer hour.
rosco
I am out of town on pervy business this weekend; so I will not be able to put false submissives; fake dominants; misguided wanderers and searching newbies in their proper places until next week.
Submissives; "keep those cards and emails coming"; as they sort of used to say at the end of the mouseketeer hour.
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[enter Robin, stage left]
Ok, I missed a whole bunch of this thread, and while I was away, it stopped being as funny as when it started out. But, um, Limbhugger... think 'camp'. Think 'extreme camp'.
Personally, I'm an expert on nothing. However, a few things seem clear to me, regardless of whether Rosco Rathborne is or is not a arch-master dominant with ten years of experience.
Firstly, Rosco is clearly a performer. He mixes metaphors and takes extreme stances for humorous and dramatic effect. It may be that he also mixes metaphors and takes extreme stances when he's being serious. But he's clearly not serious all the time. Anyone who swallows his advice whole ... well, anyone who swallows advice whole doesn't really think about advice, and they're likely to mess things up regardless of how good it is or who gives it.
Secondly, this would not be the ideal place for a wannabe king-of-all-masters to lure naive newbie subs into a dark and horrible fate. That's what IRC is for. Rosco's advice does not seem horribly sinister, and some of it seems at least partially good, from my perspective. (Flashback to Bart & Homer chasing the ham.) Some of it, of course, seems appallingly wrongheaded to me. But all of it is publicly posted, and every post he makes gives anyone who is interested the opportunity to agree, or heckle, or parody, or protest; anyone can try to improve on his advice, or present a different viewpoint, or explain point-by-point (ideally to the hypothetical inquirer rather than to Rosco) why he is wrong and how harmful his advice might be.
Thirdly, even if he isn't a cross between Santa, the Marquis de Sade, the Incredible Hulk, and a grizzly bear, Rosco seems entirely capable of taking care of himself. It can be difficult to understand the context of remarks that seem unfair, and it's not an inherently bad thing to speak up when you feel like someone's getting slagged. Ultimately, though, it's always someone else's battle. You shouldn't break out the nukes when two people are fighting skirmishes.
Finally, I find it completely unfathomable that anyone would think that they can truly understand submission except insofar as they are submissive. They may have known a lot of submissives, and they may know a lot about how they themselves (or doms in general) relate to submissives. I frankly don't get the part where that would mean they understand or can advise one regarding an experience they haven't had. But that could just be me not getting something, though. And salt should be provided gently, in grains. A suprisingly modest amount can render fish or pork suitable for packing.
Anyway, there's my usual fifty cents.
Ok, I missed a whole bunch of this thread, and while I was away, it stopped being as funny as when it started out. But, um, Limbhugger... think 'camp'. Think 'extreme camp'.
Personally, I'm an expert on nothing. However, a few things seem clear to me, regardless of whether Rosco Rathborne is or is not a arch-master dominant with ten years of experience.
Firstly, Rosco is clearly a performer. He mixes metaphors and takes extreme stances for humorous and dramatic effect. It may be that he also mixes metaphors and takes extreme stances when he's being serious. But he's clearly not serious all the time. Anyone who swallows his advice whole ... well, anyone who swallows advice whole doesn't really think about advice, and they're likely to mess things up regardless of how good it is or who gives it.
Secondly, this would not be the ideal place for a wannabe king-of-all-masters to lure naive newbie subs into a dark and horrible fate. That's what IRC is for. Rosco's advice does not seem horribly sinister, and some of it seems at least partially good, from my perspective. (Flashback to Bart & Homer chasing the ham.) Some of it, of course, seems appallingly wrongheaded to me. But all of it is publicly posted, and every post he makes gives anyone who is interested the opportunity to agree, or heckle, or parody, or protest; anyone can try to improve on his advice, or present a different viewpoint, or explain point-by-point (ideally to the hypothetical inquirer rather than to Rosco) why he is wrong and how harmful his advice might be.
Thirdly, even if he isn't a cross between Santa, the Marquis de Sade, the Incredible Hulk, and a grizzly bear, Rosco seems entirely capable of taking care of himself. It can be difficult to understand the context of remarks that seem unfair, and it's not an inherently bad thing to speak up when you feel like someone's getting slagged. Ultimately, though, it's always someone else's battle. You shouldn't break out the nukes when two people are fighting skirmishes.
Finally, I find it completely unfathomable that anyone would think that they can truly understand submission except insofar as they are submissive. They may have known a lot of submissives, and they may know a lot about how they themselves (or doms in general) relate to submissives. I frankly don't get the part where that would mean they understand or can advise one regarding an experience they haven't had. But that could just be me not getting something, though. And salt should be provided gently, in grains. A suprisingly modest amount can render fish or pork suitable for packing.
Anyway, there's my usual fifty cents.
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lark sparrow said:First a liar, now a thief! With respect like this, may I please try some good old fashioned scorn for a change?
Water under the bridge, Francisco.
Or as some might say... a bridge over troubled water, is like a fish on dry land, with hungry fisherman casting their line into a dirty stream with smooth rocks who have no hunger for the hook.
Just wonders what bait makes lark hungry for the hook.
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It is good to see such a wide array of opinions expressed in this thread. I am a newbie to the Lit site, but I have also learned the difficult lesson of asking many questions of the one who would be my Dom. There are many things I claim ignorance about. Nevertheless, I will learn. I will learn from the virtual Master I now serve - and i will learn from all who have contributed an opinion here.
To be very honest, I have been one of those independent women that has had to be strong all the time - single parent who always worked hard to survive. My children are grown now and I may embrace my submissive nature. Perhaps my former was correct when he said that I could never be completely submissive ... I believe he was wrong. He was abusive, unfair and did not have what was required to earn the level of love, respect and trust that would allow me to fully submit to him. My new Master is MUCH different. And more like what I always felt the M/s relationship should have been like.
I do have a question, though.....What is the meaning of "TPE"? This is an interesting thread...Master would think it interesting that I have sent a post. I will be punished for not asking Him first, but His punishment keeps me bound in submissive humility - and I love Him for that!
I will return - I will ask questions and I may be allowed to reveal more about myself. Thank you for your attention. Escalva
To be very honest, I have been one of those independent women that has had to be strong all the time - single parent who always worked hard to survive. My children are grown now and I may embrace my submissive nature. Perhaps my former was correct when he said that I could never be completely submissive ... I believe he was wrong. He was abusive, unfair and did not have what was required to earn the level of love, respect and trust that would allow me to fully submit to him. My new Master is MUCH different. And more like what I always felt the M/s relationship should have been like.
I do have a question, though.....What is the meaning of "TPE"? This is an interesting thread...Master would think it interesting that I have sent a post. I will be punished for not asking Him first, but His punishment keeps me bound in submissive humility - and I love Him for that!
I will return - I will ask questions and I may be allowed to reveal more about myself. Thank you for your attention. Escalva
