Being a woman in geek culture

[marvelguy14]

This is a interesting thread topic for my first post.

Tbh I personally haven't noticed female geeks getting treated any worse than male geeks irl. Though there is a stereotype that female geeks are just pretending to be into nerdy stuff. Like how some women pretend to care about sports because their boyfriend is into them (or like the opposite on The Big Bang Theory where Leonard pretends to like football to impress Penny) so maybe some male nerds assume that any women into nerdy stuff is doing it for attention. This probably only happens on the internet mostly because there are a lot of cases (on forums I go to at least) where someone you think is a female poster turns out to be a guy.

Plus there's the problem of females who are into nerdy things (like say superhero movies) just because they think the guys in them are hot. I know a lot of girls who only care about The Avengers and Thor because of Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston same with The Dark knight and Heath Ledger. i know females who are into superhero movies regardless of how the guys in the movies look as well but you can't deny a lot of female fans seem to care more about the looks of the guys. So some guys on teh interwebz just assume that a lot of female posters are either guys pretending to be girls, girls who only care about the "hot" guy actors or girls who really don't care about geek culture and just want attention.

I haven't seen females who clearly know what they're talking about and are true fans get any problems, people will respect you if they know you're a real fan male or female. There are males who get called out on if they don't know what they're talking about too. Just like casual male fans who will wear Batman or Superman t-shirts but then no next to nothing about the actual characters, or even worse the people who say stupid things like "Why wasn't Batman in The Avengers? Will he be in the next one?" Male or female who else hates people like that? Batman is DC and in the Justice League God dammit learn the difference between Marvel (Avengers) and DC (Batman) you assholes!!!211!... Ahem, anyway, if you come off as a phony or bandwagon fan nerds will call you out on it doesn't matter what your sex is.

 

[Bramblethorn]

This is a interesting thread topic for my first post.

Tbh I personally haven't noticed female geeks getting treated any worse than male geeks irl.

Welcome to the board.

Individual observations tend to be very unreliable on this sort of stuff. I'm not harshing on you in particular here, it's just human nature. Unless you go out of your way to look for it, there's a lot of the female experience that you're unlikely to see.

Here's a post by Seanan McGuire about her experience with the "fake geek girl" thing. (If you don't know her work, she got five Hugo noms this year including a win for Best Fancast, a couple of years back she picked up the Campbell for Best New Writer, etc etc.) Worth reading the whole post, but I'll just quote this bit:

"I attended SDCC and similar shows for years before anyone said "Gasp! Some of these geek girls ARE TOTALLY FAKE!" and I started getting my geek credentials checked. Since that began, I have been forced to defend my knowledge of horror movies, the X-Men, zombie literature, the Resident Evil franchise, Doctor Who, and My Little Pony.

Let's pause a moment and just think about that. Men—adult men—have asked me to defend my knowledge of and right to be a fan of My Little motherfucking Pony. My first fandom, the fandom that is arguably responsible for getting me into epic fantasy (not kidding), the franchise that I have publicly credited with teaching me how to plot long-term. A franchise that was, at least originally, aimed exclusively at little girls who enjoyed ponies and hair-play. I think that all fandoms should be for everyone, and I love that My Little Pony has finally found a male audience, but are you kidding here? Are you seriously telling me that the second men discover something I have loved since I was four years old, I suddenly have to pass trivia exams to keep considering myself a fan?"

Plus there's the problem of females who are into nerdy things (like say superhero movies) just because they think the guys in them are hot. I know a lot of girls who only care about The Avengers and Thor because of Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston same with The Dark knight and Heath Ledger.

Two questions:

(1) So what? If some lady likes Iron Man because she has a crush on RDJ, where's the problem? How does this interfere with anybody else's enjoyment of Iron Man? What are the acceptable reasons for liking that stuff?

(2) Do you think women are the only ones who join fandom for eye candy? Comics and movies put far more effort into catering to the male gaze. It's a safe bet that not everybody who buys Rob Liefeld's work is in it for the gripping storylines and thoughtful characterisation.

And yet male geeks get the benefit of the doubt. A guy can buy Liefeld, or Frank Miller, or Deodato, and his fellow geeks are unlikely to accuse him of being in the hobby just for the wank fodder unless he's exceptionally blatant.

i know females who are into superhero movies regardless of how the guys in the movies look as well but you can't deny a lot of female fans seem to care more about the looks of the guys.

Uh-huh. So how do you feel male fans would react to a movie superheroine who wasn't conventionally attractive?

I'm having difficulty thinking of even one example there. There's plenty of scope for male heroes who aren't beefcake gods - Professor X, Hulk, The Thing, Ghost Rider, Spawn, and so on. But for women it's pretty much "tits or GTFO".

I haven't seen females who clearly know what they're talking about and are true fans get any problems, people will respect you if they know you're a real fan male or female. There are males who get called out on if they don't know what they're talking about too.

Emphasis added, because there are two different standards operating there: women have to prove themselves worthy of respect by demonstrating that they know the fandom and are "true fans" (whatever that means). Men get respect by default, and lose it if they screw up.

Just like casual male fans who will wear Batman or Superman t-shirts but then no next to nothing about the actual characters, or even worse the people who say stupid things like "Why wasn't Batman in The Avengers? Will he be in the next one?" Male or female who else hates people like that? Batman is DC and in the Justice League God dammit learn the difference between Marvel (Avengers) and DC (Batman) you assholes!!!211!...

TBH, that seems like a fairly petty reason to hate somebody. If learning a lifetime's worth of superhero trivia gives you pleasure, go for it! But if somebody else manages to enjoy watching Batman or Avengers without that background... why is that a problem for you? What do you lose by their pleasure?

Something to consider...

Last I looked, the circulation of the Avengers comics was somewhere around 100,000. The Avengers movie cost about $220 million to make - that's about two thousand bucks for each person who bought the comic.

The reason it got the green light, the reason it made its money back, and the reason you're getting a sequel, is because millions of "casual fans" bought tickets and merch. So next time you see somebody in a Batman T-shirt who doesn't know the difference between DC and Marvel, instead of calling them an "asshole" you might want to consider shaking their hand and thanking them for making it possible for you to enjoy a kickass Avengers movie.

Ahem, anyway, if you come off as a phony or bandwagon fan nerds will call you out on it doesn't matter what your sex is.

No doubt, even when it's against their best interests. But only one sex is prone to being assumed phony until proven otherwise.

 

[Recidiva]

I hated Avengers. Just to be clear. I love Joss Whedon and they didn't let the guy give anybody human vulnerability, just harsh hotness. Ick.

I could not wait to go home.

I don't care if they're pretty. I want them to talk good. I adore Jeremy Renner and I hate it when I think he's boring and pouty. Give the man a good part, you assholes! You know what you got sitting and sweating in leather and latex! A great actor!

 

[KoPilot]

Marvelguy14, I highly doubt 90% of men buy Heavy Metal for the Moebius art. You gonna give them shit too?

 

[satindesire]

This is a interesting thread topic for my first post.

Tbh I personally haven't noticed female geeks getting treated any worse than male geeks irl. Though there is a stereotype that female geeks are just pretending to be into nerdy stuff. Like how some women pretend to care about sports because their boyfriend is into them (or like the opposite on The Big Bang Theory where Leonard pretends to like football to impress Penny) so maybe some male nerds assume that any women into nerdy stuff is doing it for attention. This probably only happens on the internet mostly because there are a lot of cases (on forums I go to at least) where someone you think is a female poster turns out to be a guy.

Plus there's the problem of females who are into nerdy things (like say superhero movies) just because they think the guys in them are hot. I know a lot of girls who only care about The Avengers and Thor because of Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston same with The Dark knight and Heath Ledger. i know females who are into superhero movies regardless of how the guys in the movies look as well but you can't deny a lot of female fans seem to care more about the looks of the guys. So some guys on teh interwebz just assume that a lot of female posters are either guys pretending to be girls, girls who only care about the "hot" guy actors or girls who really don't care about geek culture and just want attention.

I haven't seen females who clearly know what they're talking about and are true fans get any problems, people will respect you if they know you're a real fan male or female. There are males who get called out on if they don't know what they're talking about too. Just like casual male fans who will wear Batman or Superman t-shirts but then no next to nothing about the actual characters, or even worse the people who say stupid things like "Why wasn't Batman in The Avengers? Will he be in the next one?" Male or female who else hates people like that? Batman is DC and in the Justice League God dammit learn the difference between Marvel (Avengers) and DC (Batman) you assholes!!!211!... Ahem, anyway, if you come off as a phony or bandwagon fan nerds will call you out on it doesn't matter what your sex is.

Don't you find it even slightly strange that you're saying "Girls don't get treated worse than guys about nerdy stuff" while doing EXACTLY THAT in your post?

I mean...fuckin' honestly bro.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I hated Avengers. Just to be clear. I love Joss Whedon and they didn't let the guy give anybody human vulnerability, just harsh hotness. Ick.

I could not wait to go home.

I don't care if they're pretty. I want them to talk good. I adore Jeremy Renner and I hate it when I think he's boring and pouty. Give the man a good part, you assholes! You know what you got sitting and sweating in leather and latex! A great actor!

TBH, it wasn't entirely my cup of tea either; I start to get itchy when action sequences draw out too long (see also: the "run jump dodge the dinosaurs/falling rocks/collapsing platform" scenes that Peter Jackson loves so much). It didn't come close to a Bechdel moment*, and my reaction to Hawkeye was "does this guy have a backstory movie that I missed, or are we just not bothering to establish him?"

But according to the box-office I was in the minority there, and certainly it had its moments.

*Tempting to blame this all on the studios but I'm not sure that would be correct. For all his feminist cred, Whedon struggles on this sometimes; 'Firefly' has surprisingly few Bechdel moments for a show with so many female characters, and they don't get a lot of agency. And as much as I enjoyed 'Dr Horrible', Penny could pretty much be a RealDoll for all her power to shape events.

 

[Recidiva]

TBH, it wasn't entirely my cup of tea either; I start to get itchy when action sequences draw out too long (see also: the "run jump dodge the dinosaurs/falling rocks/collapsing platform" scenes that Peter Jackson loves so much). It didn't come close to a Bechdel moment*, and my reaction to Hawkeye was "does this guy have a backstory movie that I missed, or are we just not bothering to establish him?"

But according to the box-office I was in the minority there, and certainly it had its moments.

*Tempting to blame this all on the studios but I'm not sure that would be correct. For all his feminist cred, Whedon struggles on this sometimes; 'Firefly' has surprisingly few Bechdel moments for a show with so many female characters, and they don't get a lot of agency. And as much as I enjoyed 'Dr Horrible', Penny could pretty much be a RealDoll for all her power to shape events.

I was really excited because Whedon was writing. But through the whole thing I could just imagine him giving his characters depth and they booted it back saying "Fuck all that talky crap, make it awesomer."

 

[unicorn64]

Who cares if shes' a geek. Some think because I can fix computers I am a geek or computer nerd but I don't push it. The ones who have had me fix their computers don't care that I am a woman and those who I haven't fixed don't care either. I fit where I fit and if someone don't like it oh well. I don't have to spend lots of money paying the nerd down the street to fix mine, I fix it myself and if I need help I know where to go.

 

[Stella_Omega]

TBH, it wasn't entirely my cup of tea either; I start to get itchy when action sequences draw out too long (see also: the "run jump dodge the dinosaurs/falling rocks/collapsing platform" scenes that Peter Jackson loves so much). It didn't come close to a Bechdel moment*, and my reaction to Hawkeye was "does this guy have a backstory movie that I missed, or are we just not bothering to establish him?"

But according to the box-office I was in the minority there, and certainly it had its moments.

*Tempting to blame this all on the studios but I'm not sure that would be correct. For all his feminist cred, Whedon struggles on this sometimes; 'Firefly' has surprisingly few Bechdel moments for a show with so many female characters, and they don't get a lot of agency. And as much as I enjoyed 'Dr Horrible', Penny could pretty much be a RealDoll for all her power to shape events.

The ONLY reason Buffy was what it was was because Joss wrote your typical boy saves the world adventure story and then gender switched the (human) characters. Xander might as well have been the token girl that gets in the way during fights and has to be pushed to safety.

It was a clever gimmick, that's all.

 

[Noor]

The ONLY reason Buffy was what it was was because Joss wrote your typical boy saves the world adventure story and then gender switched the (human) characters. Xander might as well have been the token girl that gets in the way during fights and has to be pushed to safety.

It was a clever gimmick, that's all.

Like Thelma and Louise, basically a traditional guy road story but with women who shoot and blow things up.

 

[Noor]

A group of us go to movies like Thor for fun and eye candy. We don't take any guys unless they beg to come.

 

[KoPilot]

So all the one-hit-wonder dudebro posters, I'm gonna save you time and just preemptively post what you all were going to say anyways:

"I love females in my geekdom except when they're ugly/not as smart as me/a bunch of bitches."

 

[Stella_Omega]

So all the one-hit-wonder dudebro posters, I'm gonna save you time and just preemptively post what you all were going to say anyways:

"I love females in my geekdom except when they're ugly/not as smart as me/a bunch of bitches."

or "pretty/smarter than me/a bunch of bitches"

 

[marvelguy14]

Welcome to the board.

Individual observations tend to be very unreliable on this sort of stuff. I'm not harshing on you in particular here, it's just human nature. Unless you go out of your way to look for it, there's a lot of the female experience that you're unlikely to see.

Here's a post by Seanan McGuire about her experience with the "fake geek girl" thing. (If you don't know her work, she got five Hugo noms this year including a win for Best Fancast, a couple of years back she picked up the Campbell for Best New Writer, etc etc.) Worth reading the whole post, but I'll just quote this bit:

"I attended SDCC and similar shows for years before anyone said "Gasp! Some of these geek girls ARE TOTALLY FAKE!" and I started getting my geek credentials checked. Since that began, I have been forced to defend my knowledge of horror movies, the X-Men, zombie literature, the Resident Evil franchise, Doctor Who, and My Little Pony.

Let's pause a moment and just think about that. Men—adult men—have asked me to defend my knowledge of and right to be a fan of My Little motherfucking Pony. My first fandom, the fandom that is arguably responsible for getting me into epic fantasy (not kidding), the franchise that I have publicly credited with teaching me how to plot long-term. A franchise that was, at least originally, aimed exclusively at little girls who enjoyed ponies and hair-play. I think that all fandoms should be for everyone, and I love that My Little Pony has finally found a male audience, but are you kidding here? Are you seriously telling me that the second men discover something I have loved since I was four years old, I suddenly have to pass trivia exams to keep considering myself a fan?"



Two questions:

(1) So what? If some lady likes Iron Man because she has a crush on RDJ, where's the problem? How does this interfere with anybody else's enjoyment of Iron Man? What are the acceptable reasons for liking that stuff?

(2) Do you think women are the only ones who join fandom for eye candy? Comics and movies put far more effort into catering to the male gaze. It's a safe bet that not everybody who buys Rob Liefeld's work is in it for the gripping storylines and thoughtful characterisation.

And yet male geeks get the benefit of the doubt. A guy can buy Liefeld, or Frank Miller, or Deodato, and his fellow geeks are unlikely to accuse him of being in the hobby just for the wank fodder unless he's exceptionally blatant.



Uh-huh. So how do you feel male fans would react to a movie superheroine who wasn't conventionally attractive?

I'm having difficulty thinking of even one example there. There's plenty of scope for male heroes who aren't beefcake gods - Professor X, Hulk, The Thing, Ghost Rider, Spawn, and so on. But for women it's pretty much "tits or GTFO".



Emphasis added, because there are two different standards operating there: women have to prove themselves worthy of respect by demonstrating that they know the fandom and are "true fans" (whatever that means). Men get respect by default, and lose it if they screw up.



TBH, that seems like a fairly petty reason to hate somebody. If learning a lifetime's worth of superhero trivia gives you pleasure, go for it! But if somebody else manages to enjoy watching Batman or Avengers without that background... why is that a problem for you? What do you lose by their pleasure?

Something to consider...

Last I looked, the circulation of the Avengers comics was somewhere around 100,000. The Avengers movie cost about $220 million to make - that's about two thousand bucks for each person who bought the comic.

The reason it got the green light, the reason it made its money back, and the reason you're getting a sequel, is because millions of "casual fans" bought tickets and merch. So next time you see somebody in a Batman T-shirt who doesn't know the difference between DC and Marvel, instead of calling them an "asshole" you might want to consider shaking their hand and thanking them for making it possible for you to enjoy a kickass Avengers movie.



No doubt, even when it's against their best interests. But only one sex is prone to being assumed phony until proven otherwise.

Never said that since I haven't seen it means it doesn't happen...

I'm not saying there's a problem with having a crush on an actor in a movie. The problem however is that some girls will pass themselves off as uber nerds when all they really care about is how hot the guy is. Guess what if Thor was played by Drew Carey instead of Chris Hemsworth his popularity with females would be close to non existent. Seriously ask a Loki fangirl to name a Thor character other than Thor or Loki, they'll draw blanks. I'm saying is that it's fine to be attracted to actors but when that's ALL you care about and don't even pay attention to scenes where the hot guys not around maybe you're not as much of a nerd as you'd like to think you are. It's like guys who saw Catwoman they didn't give a damn about that shitty movie they just wanted to see Halle Berry in a catsuit. Same situation with some women and superhero movies.

Yeah men like eye candy don't see where I said they don't but there's a difference. Like I said guys will see a movie they clearly have no interest in if there's a hot woman in it. BUT they won't claim to be super fans of the movie they'll admit they just saw it for the women. Whereas in my experience women who clearly only saw a movie because of a guy will try to act like they're fans of the movie when it's clear they're not. An example I'm a wrestling fan and there are plenty of female wrestlers who aren't the most attractive women in the world. But dammit they can wrestle so a lot of guys are fans of them. On the flip side there are hot women who can't wrestle at all, and the fans don't like them. Guys don't always need eye candy if someone is talented. And lets try not to act like women don't get annoyed at guys who only care about stuff because of hot women. I'm pretty sure if I watched Elektra with a women and only talked about how hot she was the women would get pissed off rightfully so. I've seen superhero movies with women who clearly only give a shit when the guy is shirtless, the rest of the time? Off to text!

And I never said just women had to prove themselves men do too, do you think if I want on a comic book site and said something stupid that I'd get respect? NOPE, if a person doesn't come across as fake then you'll get respect. Stop with this "A bird took a shit on my car because I'm a woman and everyone's out to get us!" attitude some women don't get respect on forums just like some men don't. It's not because their women. I'm mean I don't always get treated well by nerds either and I don't blame it on me being black (I'm black btw) not everyone in life is going to be nice to you.

You clearly don't get sarcasm thought the "Batman is DC and in the Justice League God dammit learn the difference between Marvel (Avengers) and DC (Batman) you assholes!!!211!" you see those numbers mixed with the exclamation points? Sign that I was just kidding thought it was pretty obvious might have to start announcing when I'm being sarcastic. And I don't have to thank casual fans for anything. They aren't the reason the movie as made. If The Avengers weren't initially popular with nerds in the first place there'd be no movie.

 

[marvelguy14]

So all the one-hit-wonder dudebro posters, I'm gonna save you time and just preemptively post what you all were going to say anyways:

"I love females in my geekdom except when they're ugly/not as smart as me/a bunch of bitches."

If it helps you sleep at night, sure pal that's true. lol I love how you can get away with stereotyping men with that but if I were to stereotype women I'd be the bad guy. Double standards for the win! My favorite type of Feminist the egotistical "men are just intimidated by strong women, yeah that's why men don't like me!" yep has nothing to do with your off putting arrogant nothing is ever my fault attitude.

 

[BiBunny]

Welcome to the board.

Individual observations tend to be very unreliable on this sort of stuff. I'm not harshing on you in particular here, it's just human nature. Unless you go out of your way to look for it, there's a lot of the female experience that you're unlikely to see.

Here's a post by Seanan McGuire about her experience with the "fake geek girl" thing. (If you don't know her work, she got five Hugo noms this year including a win for Best Fancast, a couple of years back she picked up the Campbell for Best New Writer, etc etc.) Worth reading the whole post, but I'll just quote this bit:

"I attended SDCC and similar shows for years before anyone said "Gasp! Some of these geek girls ARE TOTALLY FAKE!" and I started getting my geek credentials checked. Since that began, I have been forced to defend my knowledge of horror movies, the X-Men, zombie literature, the Resident Evil franchise, Doctor Who, and My Little Pony.

Let's pause a moment and just think about that. Men—adult men—have asked me to defend my knowledge of and right to be a fan of My Little motherfucking Pony. My first fandom, the fandom that is arguably responsible for getting me into epic fantasy (not kidding), the franchise that I have publicly credited with teaching me how to plot long-term. A franchise that was, at least originally, aimed exclusively at little girls who enjoyed ponies and hair-play. I think that all fandoms should be for everyone, and I love that My Little Pony has finally found a male audience, but are you kidding here? Are you seriously telling me that the second men discover something I have loved since I was four years old, I suddenly have to pass trivia exams to keep considering myself a fan?"



Two questions:

(1) So what? If some lady likes Iron Man because she has a crush on RDJ, where's the problem? How does this interfere with anybody else's enjoyment of Iron Man? What are the acceptable reasons for liking that stuff?

(2) Do you think women are the only ones who join fandom for eye candy? Comics and movies put far more effort into catering to the male gaze. It's a safe bet that not everybody who buys Rob Liefeld's work is in it for the gripping storylines and thoughtful characterisation.

And yet male geeks get the benefit of the doubt. A guy can buy Liefeld, or Frank Miller, or Deodato, and his fellow geeks are unlikely to accuse him of being in the hobby just for the wank fodder unless he's exceptionally blatant.



Uh-huh. So how do you feel male fans would react to a movie superheroine who wasn't conventionally attractive?

I'm having difficulty thinking of even one example there. There's plenty of scope for male heroes who aren't beefcake gods - Professor X, Hulk, The Thing, Ghost Rider, Spawn, and so on. But for women it's pretty much "tits or GTFO".



Emphasis added, because there are two different standards operating there: women have to prove themselves worthy of respect by demonstrating that they know the fandom and are "true fans" (whatever that means). Men get respect by default, and lose it if they screw up.



TBH, that seems like a fairly petty reason to hate somebody. If learning a lifetime's worth of superhero trivia gives you pleasure, go for it! But if somebody else manages to enjoy watching Batman or Avengers without that background... why is that a problem for you? What do you lose by their pleasure?

Something to consider...

Last I looked, the circulation of the Avengers comics was somewhere around 100,000. The Avengers movie cost about $220 million to make - that's about two thousand bucks for each person who bought the comic.

The reason it got the green light, the reason it made its money back, and the reason you're getting a sequel, is because millions of "casual fans" bought tickets and merch. So next time you see somebody in a Batman T-shirt who doesn't know the difference between DC and Marvel, instead of calling them an "asshole" you might want to consider shaking their hand and thanking them for making it possible for you to enjoy a kickass Avengers movie.



No doubt, even when it's against their best interests. But only one sex is prone to being assumed phony until proven otherwise.

Stop making so much sense, dammit!

 

[marvelguy14]

Stop making so much sense, dammit!

Sense? lol ok. Bet if I bought one of them new fangled vagina's I'd be getting that response too. Alas.

 

[BiBunny]

Sense? lol ok. Bet if I bought one of them new fangled vagina's I'd be getting that response too. Alas.

Ok, legitimate question: Why does what these other people do--male or female--matter that much to you?

 

[Noor]

If it helps you sleep at night, sure pal that's true. lol I love how you can get away with stereotyping men with that but if I were to stereotype women I'd be the bad guy. Double standards for the win! My favorite type of Feminist the egotistical "men are just intimidated by strong women, yeah that's why men don't like me!" yep has nothing to do with your off putting arrogant nothing is ever my fault attitude.

I wish to hell they were intimated by strong women, not like me and stop trying to pick me up at cons, especially the young ones!

No doubt for being nice, polite and friendly.

I fully admit to only going to Thor for group movie night and eye candy, it had really good sets too.

 

[marvelguy14]

Ok, legitimate question: Why does what these other people do--male or female--matter that much to you?

Um... it doesn't. Like at all don't know why you think it does.

 

[BiBunny]

Um... it doesn't. Like at all don't know why you think it does.

It matters enough that you made several long tirades in this thread about it. I just wondered why that affected you so much.

 

[marvelguy14]

It matters enough that you made several long tirades in this thread about it. I just wondered why that affected you so much.

lol what tirade? I was just giving my opinion, sorry for not giving an opinion that wasn't completely kissing the female genders ass. Would you rather I posted nothing but "You go girl! All men are sexist jerks! Everything bad in history that has ever happened to a woman is because she's a woman!" type of posts? Would that have been better for you?

 

[BiBunny]

lol what tirade?

You've got 6 posts, all of them in this thread, and 2 of them TL;DRs. Either you're an alt, or you're new, and in either case, the discussion mattered enough for you to create your screen name to post here. I was just trying to figure out why.

I was just giving my opinion, sorry for not giving an opinion that wasn't completely kissing the female genders ass. Would you rather I posted nothing but "You go girl! All men are sexist jerks! Everything bad in history that has ever happened to a woman is because she's a woman!" type of posts? Would that have been better for you?

If you'd read any of my previous posts in the thread, you'd see that I'm no fan of the majority of mainstream feminism, so your sarcasm is misdirected.

This is a discussion board. I made the mistake of thinking there was something you wanted to discuss. Lo siento.

 

[marvelguy14]

You've got 6 posts, all of them in this thread, and 2 of them TL;DRs. Either you're an alt, or you're new, and in either case, the discussion mattered enough for you to create your screen name to post here. I was just trying to figure out why.



If you'd read any of my previous posts in the thread, you'd see that I'm no fan of the majority of mainstream feminism, so your sarcasm is misdirected.

This is a discussion board. I made the mistake of thinking there was something you wanted to discuss. Lo siento.

Who gives a shit if all of my posts are in this thread? And since when did long posts = tirade? Was I cussing anyone out or giving out personal insults? Nope. And really I'm a alt or because I posted in the thread? What do you mean the discussion mattered enough for me to post here when did I say the discussion didn't matter. In my first post I clearly say this is an interesting topic hence why I've posted here so many times. If anything I came into this thread offered my opinions respectfully and have had people cop attitudes and be sarcastic with me first.

I never said you were a Feminist though, I just get the feeling you don't agree with my posts because they may seem anti women which they aren't at all. Because going by this thread's logic pointing out that yes some women do go to superhero movies only because the guy is hot and nothing else is sexist. Pointing out that females on nerd forums have to know what they're talking about to gain respect (same as males) is sexist in this backwards place.

 

[Stella_Omega]

mansplaining, stop doing it.