Character Development

Answering without reading hte other posts, will do so afterwards...


How do you flesh out your character? (eg.s welcome)

Often very little. I tend to only mention the things I find necessary for the story itself, for the role people take in it... as you asked for examples I will give some... in one of my stories I do describe a secondary character into what for me is quite a bit of detail - in that case less to have her be an individual that looks a certain way, but rather to place a cultural or regional setting for which she is somewhat stereotype:
The girl was short and burly, as all women of the village. Her cheeks were dark, almost black, burned by the merciless sun of the day and the biting cold of the night. Her long hair was plaited into two braids that dangled along her back. Above it she wore a hat that was decorated with colorful ribbons of similar color as her traditional skirts. Nothing distinguished her from other young women of her village, except for the fact that she, just like her father, knew a few words in my language.
In a way I think this is one of the most precise pictures I have given of a character of any of the things I have written, at least concerning the way someone looks. Of the actual main character in that story the only things look-wise taht are mentioned - and even that a lot later into the story, are that she is red haired and blue eyed (which has an importance to the story itself, and is only mentioned at the point when this comes up), and that she has quite pale skin. I think it isn't even clear she is a girl until quite a bit into the story.

In some cases I write even less about what the characters look like - especially if it is written in first person or in third person but very much from the point of view of the character.

This is not because I can't come up with the way someone looks, usually, but more because I don't want to. As I said, I see it as important if it places them somehow into the context of the story, or if the way they look characterizes them, but else I don't like too clear descriptions.

As for the characters character and state of mind - I guess in a way I do describe that a lot because I tend to like to write about how someone feels... Which of course is an indication to what kind of a person they are.

How far do you go to create a picture in your head before you write?

There is a picture there - the thing (and part of the reason I don't like descriptions) is that I think quite often to a certain degree I identify with the characters... In other cases, like the text example above, there is a stereotype I see...

But I think few of my characters are complete characters - it depends on the kind of text, but if it is a short text they are often more an idea, or an aspect of a personality, rather than a complete person.

Are character flaws important?

They are, if they have an importance to the story, or to the placement of the character. But when the text is in first person or from the point of view of a character they are of course more likely to be implied rather than said... In other cases where it is not from someone's point of view, I sometimes like going distant enough that again, I wouldn't name flaws or characteristics, though they could be guessed from what happens...

Do you find you are better at plot or characterisation?

Don't know... I was told I am good at descriptions, but it isn't usually people I describe. So then that would be neither one (unless of course you say that a place or similar can in fact be the protagonist of a story)... I don#t know, really...
 
Just something more that came to my mind - there are times when I enjoy to describe a character just for the fun of it. The other day I sat in the train and wrote down a page describing a young man, only character though, not looks (and with the character some of his "history")... Now I am quite anxious to find a story to fit him in, he is not at all a nice person, hehe...

So that can happen too, that the first thing I have is a character. Just as in other cases the description of a place is what really starts the story (this was the case in the blue bed for example)...
 
How do you flesh out your character? (eg.s welcome)
I don't think I do it enough. I usually come up with their traits as I go along, and go back to the begining to add anything that needs o be set up.

How far do you go to create a picture in your head before you write?
Changes from story to story. Some of them I have an idea for oneor two of the characters either as a celebrity or someone I know, other times it is just a blank face and a body type. Yet others, it changes from the beginning of the story to the end.

In my "Over the Sink" series, I started out with the mother being Julie Cooper from The O.C. (and names such as well), Sally was this woman I worked with at my second job, and Jennifer was a blank face with a tall slim body. As time progressed Julie stayed the same, but Sally changed to porn star Eve Laurence and then Tori Lane. Jennifer changed to this girl Nicky that I know thorugh my Shaolin school.

All of the men are either faceless blanks or myself.

Are character flaws important?
Depends on the story. Sometimes I barely develope the character at all, don't forget (and sometimes I release an incompete storyt and have to go back a few months later and finish it... :eek: ).

Do you find you are better at plot or characterisation?
Plot. I like to keep the story moving, to a flaw sometimes. I need to slow down and be more descriptive sometimes.
 
TheeGoatPig said:

All of the men are either faceless blanks or myself.



Ain't that the truth?

I've gotten a way from that now, but for a while all my men were me. It seemed to me that I was doing all the work writing it, why shouldn't I be the guy having the fun?

Haven't seen you on the boards before, Goat. Just wanted to say welcome.

--Zoot
 
Munachi said:
Just something more that came to my mind - there are times when I enjoy to describe a character just for the fun of it. The other day I sat in the train and wrote down a page describing a young man, only character though, not looks (and with the character some of his "history")... Now I am quite anxious to find a story to fit him in, he is not at all a nice person, hehe...

That's why I'm suspicious of big, detailed character sheets. It's tempting to just sit and imagine your character's favorite food and rock band and never write the damned story at all.

Also, aren't the most interesting parts of a story where your characters act out-of-character?.
 
Alex756 said:
I don't create a picture before I write I create a voice... the words a person uses and there thoughts tell more of their character than any mirror scene can ever tell you.

I think al characters have 'flaws' but I don't see them as flaws? does that make sense ... its just part of the character.

Reading what you have written is the closest to how I approach character development :D I only manage to write snippets of a story at a time, so character development only begins about chapter 3 or 4 for me. Before that, I use dialogue to create and shape the character in the readers mind. It isn't a conscious thing I do. And nobody has ever said I have great dialogue, or even commented on it - so now you have me wondering what the readers pick up from my stories, and if it was what I intended :D

Flaws to me are necessary to create the character - up there with conflict. But I like them to be positively viewed eg voluptous, not flabby.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
Ain't that the truth?

I've gotten a way from that now, but for a while all my men were me. It seemed to me that I was doing all the work writing it, why shouldn't I be the guy having the fun?

Haven't seen you on the boards before, Goat. Just wanted to say welcome.

--Zoot

Thank you.

I have browsed the boards once or twice last year, but finally decided to post last night (I'm on a half a dozen message boards already, why not one more). Though I have been writing for several years (most of it unreleasable garbage), posting for one, and learning more about how to write better for about a day (yeah, I never really payed attention to what I was doing until reading some posts on real character developement last night, before now it was all just whatever flowed out of my head :p )
 
dr_mabeuse said:
That's why I'm suspicious of big, detailed character sheets. It's tempting to just sit and imagine your character's favorite food and rock band and never write the damned story at all.

Also, aren't the most interesting parts of a story where your characters act out-of-character?.
Well what I meant wasn't so much a character sheet, but more... don't know how to call it. In the case mentioned I wrote the description of a character like it would be in a story - more or less giving him a history. I didn't really write much about what he looks like or anything... I wouldn't do discriptions of characters for everyone I have in a story, it is more something that just suddenly enters my head and wants out, so I write it down to then think about how to use it. Anyway, I have come up with a story for him now, he isn't even the main character, but I think I will anyway start the story with his description...
 
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