Derek Chauvin pleads guilty to federal charges in George Floyd’s death

[YDB95]

A congresswoman inciting civil disobedience knowing full well the history of past transgressions would have lead to violence. Can’t accuse her of inciting a riot because the verdict was conviction of murder! We all know what would have happened had Chauvin been acquitted or convicted of a lesser charge. Waters went right to line. Waters should have been charged with jury tampering.
Civil disobedience is non violent till it becomes violent. She knew full well that the situation was a powder keg ready to explode with violence. Unbecoming of a federal lawmaker.

Lest we forget, all Rep. Waters said was:

The Congress member told protesters they must “stay on the street” and “get more confrontational” so that “they know that we mean business.”

If you construe that as advocating for violence, that says more about your perspective than anything else.

And by definition, civil disobedience is non-violent. If it turns violent, it's no longer civil. See how that works?

Correction, typo OBL

Sure enough, nothing there about "leftist kids" cheering him on. No one knows (or at least the reporter didn't know) where that letter from OBL came from, or who circulated it. You don't know if they were leftists or kids, never mind both, and given that the report also touched on pro-Nazi propaganda, if anything, the evidence suggests it was right-wingers.

 

[icanhelp1]

Lest we forget, all Rep. Waters said was:

If you construe that as advocating for violence, that says more about your perspective than anything else.

And by definition, civil disobedience is non-violent. If it turns violent, it's no longer civil. See how that works?


Sure enough, nothing there about "leftist kids" cheering him on. No one knows (or at least the reporter didn't know) where that letter from OBL came from, or who circulated it. You don't know if they were leftists or kids, never mind both, and given that the report also touched on pro-Nazi propaganda, if anything, the evidence suggests it was right-wingers.

I would think a federal congresswoman, from another state at that, would promote peaceful protest not incite confrontational behavior. Confrontational behavior with police can only lead to violence. That’s exactly what waters was attempting to achieve.

College kids affiliated with leftist groups protesting in favor of the Palestinian cause and in some cases spewing support for Hamas while chanting from the river to the sea displaying outright hatred for Jews is your leftist crowd. Antisemitism is Nazis behavior coming from the left. College professors are poisoning our children’s minds. Our institutions of higher education have become incubators for marxism ideology and antisemitism.

Support for OBL is a Tik Tok phenomenon taking root in some of our younger folks.

 

[dkovic77]

I would think a federal congresswoman, from another state at that, would promote peaceful protest not incite confrontational behavior. Confrontational behavior with police can only lead to violence. That’s exactly what waters was attempting to achieve.

College kids affiliated with leftist groups protesting in favor of the Palestinian cause and in some cases spewing support for Hamas while chanting from the river to the sea displaying outright hatred for Jews is your leftist crowd. Antisemitism is Nazis behavior coming from the left. College professors are poisoning our children’s minds. Our institutions of higher education have become incubators for marxism ideology and antisemitism.

Support for OBL is a Tik Tok phenomenon taking root in some of our younger folks.

Couldn’t get into a college could you?

 

[YDB95]

I would think a federal congresswoman, from another state at that, would promote peaceful protest not incite confrontational behavior. Confrontational behavior with police can only lead to violence. That’s exactly what waters was attempting to achieve.

People have a right to peaceful protest. What you're basically saying here is if they did that, it would provoke the cops to attack them, and that would somehow be the protesters' fault. Surprise surprise.

On another note, not that I think Waters was trying to incite a riot - I don't - but it wouldn't kill you to take a hard look at just why Black Americans have that much anger at cops in general.

College kids affiliated with leftist groups protesting in favor of the Palestinian cause and in some cases spewing support for Hamas while chanting from the river to the sea displaying outright hatred for Jews is your leftist crowd.

If that's true, you ought to be able to point to some actual examples of that. Talking heads on TV saying it's happening are not actual examples.

Antisemitism is Nazis behavior coming from the left.

I won't deny that anti-semitism exists on the left, but the right didn't need to borrow it from anybody.

College professors are poisoning our children’s minds. Our institutions of higher education have become incubators for marxism ideology and antisemitism.

You have no basis whatsoever for that, and I agree with dkovic's take on you.

Support for OBL is a Tik Tok phenomenon taking root in some of our younger folks.

That's at least twice you've made that claim, with nothing to back it up but bucketloads of attitude.

 

[icanhelp1]

People have a right to peaceful protest. What you're basically saying here is if they did that, it would provoke the cops to attack them, and that would somehow be the protesters' fault. Surprise surprise.

On another note, not that I think Waters was trying to incite a riot - I don't - but it wouldn't kill you to take a hard look at just why Black Americans have that much anger at cops in general.

If that's true, you ought to be able to point to some actual examples of that. Talking heads on TV saying it's happening are not actual examples.

I won't deny that anti-semitism exists on the left, but the right didn't need to borrow it from anybody.

You have no basis whatsoever for that, and I agree with dkovic's take on you.

That's at least twice you've made that claim, with nothing to back it up but bucketloads of attitude.

I cite sources but you ignore them. Stay safe under your rock.

 

[YDB95]

I cite sources but you ignore them. Stay safe under your rock.

Wrong. I watched your Youtube link. It didn't say what you claim it said.

 

[icanhelp1]

Wrong. I watched your Youtube link. It didn't say what you claim it said.

Not only do you live under a rock but your reading for comprehension sucks.

I certainly don’t give a flying fuck what 77 that self absorbed, fake contrarian, ad-hom slinging clown has to offer.

What YT link are you referring to?

 

[YDB95]

Not only do you live under a rock but your reading for comprehension sucks.

I certainly don’t give a flying fuck what 77 that self absorbed, fake contrarian, ad-hom slinging clown has to offer.

What YT link are you referring to?

"Communicating poorly and then acting smug when you're misunderstood isn't cleverness" (XKCD)

Now leftist kids are cheering on UBL.

[Insert stock "YDB asks for a cite and the other guy provides a link to someone saying something else entirely" here]

That Youtube link, which you posted in direct response to my prediction that if I asked for a cite on your claim that "leftist kids are cheering on UBL", you would provide a link to someone saying something else entirely. And sure enough...

(In case you're too lazy to watch your own link, it says someone has been circulating a letter from bin Laden, but it doesn't say anything about who is doing so. You have no way of knowing they're leftists or kids, beyond the fact that you desperately want that to be the case.)

 

[icanhelp1]

"Communicating poorly and then acting smug when you're misunderstood isn't cleverness" (XKCD)







That Youtube link, which you posted in direct response to my prediction that if I asked for a cite on your claim that "leftist kids are cheering on UBL", you would provide a link to someone saying something else entirely. And sure enough...

(In case you're too lazy to watch your own link, it says someone has been circulating a letter from bin Laden, but it doesn't say anything about who is doing so. You have no way of knowing they're leftists or kids, beyond the fact that you desperately want that to be the case.)

I provided a source that tik tok was circulating OBL’s letter. I understand that you limit yourself to MSNBC. Many news media outlets were providing actual footage of students supporting OBL’s crap. It corresponds with students , sometimes violently I might add, protesting in support of Palestinians and in some cases Hamas. These protest are generated by leftist Marxist educators at the college level and antisemitic politicians of your democrat party. I don’t have file footage of student’s propagating this OBL bullshit but rest assured it happening. I watched it live.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

I agree with icanthelp for once, america is a shithole.

 

[YDB95]

I provided a source that tik tok was circulating OBL’s letter. I understand that you limit yourself to MSNBC.

And I responded directly to your source. It didn't say what you claimed it said (and now even you are acknowledging that - instead of "leftist kids", it's TikTok that's circulating OBL's letter. Anyone can see you simply assumed if it's on TikTok, it must be leftist kids. But you haven't proven that in any way.
And again, this is exactly what I predicted: if I asked you for a cite, you would provide one but it would show something rather different from what you claimed in the first place.

Many news media outlets were providing actual footage of students supporting OBL’s crap.

You haven't provided any such examples, and knowing the sources you use, I doubt they'd be legitimate anyway.

It corresponds with students , sometimes violently I might add, protesting in support of Palestinians and in some cases Hamas.

No, it doesn't. Supporting Palestinians' rights != supporting Hamas, and supporting Hamas, while reprehensible, != supporting OBL.

These protest are generated by leftist Marxist educators at the college level and antisemitic politicians of your democrat party.

I have three degrees. I'm pretty sure if Marxist professors were that common, I'd have met at least one. I never did. No anti-Semites either.

I don’t have file footage of student’s propagating this OBL bullshit but rest assured it happening. I watched it live.

And yet you can't provide any evidence whatsoever of that.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I have three degrees. I'm pretty sure if Marxist professors were that common, I'd have met at least one. I never did. No anti-Semites either.

I have two, and I also never met any Marxist professors, nor even knew of any who had that claimed made towards them.

And yet you can't provide any evidence whatsoever of that.

Of course he can't, and I'm sure neither you or I are surprised.

 

[dkovic77]

Not only do you live under a rock but your reading for comprehension sucks.

I certainly don’t give a flying fuck what 77 that self absorbed, fake contrarian, ad-hom slinging clown has to offer.

What YT link are you referring to?

So you work for a clown? This seems like some pent up work frustration.

Now I wonder what deep fryer fast food place has a clown?

Does this clown have some really artificial hair? What about skin color, almost like it’s painted on?

 

[icanhelp1]

So you work for a clown? This seems like some pent up work frustration.

Now I wonder what deep fryer fast food place has a clown?

Does this clown have some really artificial hair? What about skin color, almost like it’s painted on?

I feel sorry for you and all. You keep working real hard and someday you’ll get past 3rd grade. Now run along your mommy’s calling you.

 

[icanhelp1]

And I responded directly to your source. It didn't say what you claimed it said (and now even you are acknowledging that - instead of "leftist kids", it's TikTok that's circulating OBL's letter. Anyone can see you simply assumed if it's on TikTok, it must be leftist kids. But you haven't proven that in any way.
And again, this is exactly what I predicted: if I asked you for a cite, you would provide one but it would show something rather different from what you claimed in the first place.

You haven't provided any such examples, and knowing the sources you use, I doubt they'd be legitimate anyway.

No, it doesn't. Supporting Palestinians' rights != supporting Hamas, and supporting Hamas, while reprehensible, != supporting OBL.

I have three degrees. I'm pretty sure if Marxist professors were that common, I'd have met at least one. I never did. No anti-Semites either.

And yet you can't provide any evidence whatsoever of that.

https://youtu.be/keETmC7t6xY?si=p2kZRtLhOnqPLZWl

It doesn’t matter what source I provide you, it certainly doesn’t take three degrees to notice a transformation for the worst is happening in the American educational system. In many cases Kids are leaving our higher learning institutions dumber than when they went in. Soon a degree from Harvard won’t be worth the paper it was written on but will still cost you a half a million dollars, maybe more, for nothing more than a higher level of Marxist indoctrination.

 

[dkovic77]

I feel sorry for you and all. You keep working real hard and someday you’ll get past 3rd grade. Now run along your mommy’s calling you.

I did really well in school. It wasn’t the private schooling you most likely had to have since you couldn’t go to a public school. Still got you a deep fryer job as a result.

 

[icanhelp1]

I did really well in school. It wasn’t the private schooling you most likely had to have since you couldn’t go to a public school. Still got you a deep fryer job as a result.

Take your childish grade school antics and move along. I’m sure after several attempts to pass third grade you finally did really well, proud of you now move along, don’t waste time here, 4th grade will unlock a whole new world full of new discoveries, but it’s a little harder so pay attention.

 

[icanhelp1]

I have two, and I also never met any Marxist professors, nor even knew of any who had that claimed made towards them.

Of course he can't, and I'm sure neither you or I are surprised.

Well, back 40 years ago Marxist ideology was not so entrenched in our education systems.

When I was in college we were protesting the Vietnam war.

 

[YDB95]

https://youtu.be/keETmC7t6xY?si=p2kZRtLhOnqPLZWl

Well, okay, that shows a total of, I think, five people who fit your thesis. Five, Ican'thelpit. But I concede, that's five more than were in the first link you provided, the CNBC one.

It doesn’t matter what source I provide you, it certainly doesn’t take three degrees to notice a transformation for the worst is happening in the American educational system.

Based on what, exactly? That most young graduates don't share your politics? Cry me a river.

In many cases Kids are leaving our higher learning institutions dumber than when they went in. Soon a degree from Harvard won’t be worth the paper it was written on but will still cost you a half a million dollars, maybe more, for nothing more than a higher level of Marxist indoctrination.

And yet you haven't shown any examples anywhere of professors - at Harvard or anywhere else - supporting Marxism.

 

[YDB95]

When I was in college we were protesting the Vietnam war.

And older people with your politics were whining about Marxism in academia then too.

 

[icanhelp1]

And older people with your politics were whining about Marxism in academia then too.

No we weren’t. We were taught communism was a threat to democracy and to resist communist propaganda.

Older people with my politics? ROTFLMAO! Back in my day liberals wouldn’t stand for antisemitism in the ranks. Liberals were truly liberal, they believed in individual rights over big government, not true today. Today make believe liberals are more aligned with progressive ideology, believe that bigger government is better. They believe that wealth inequality is bad, wealth redistribution is the new world order, in other words Marxism.

 

[YDB95]

No we weren’t. We were taught communism was a threat to democracy and to resist communist propaganda.

Older people with my politics? ROTFLMAO! Back in my day liberals wouldn’t stand for antisemitism in the ranks.

Don't tell me you've caught Bobo disease and now you think you're a liberal!

Liberals were truly liberal, they believed in individual rights over big government, not true today. Today make believe liberals are more aligned with progressive ideology, believe that bigger government is better. They believe that wealth inequality is bad, wealth redistribution is the new world order, in other words Marxism.

And people like you were saying the same thing about liberals back in the '60s, and for decades before that.

 

[dkovic77]

Take your childish grade school antics and move along. I’m sure after several attempts to pass third grade you finally did really well, proud of you now move along, don’t waste time here, 4th grade will unlock a whole new world full of new discoveries, but it’s a little harder so pay attention.

Nah, passed them all first time. Reading comprehension grades always went well.

What’s the happy meal toy this week?

 

[icanhelp1]

Don't tell me you've caught Bobo disease and now you think you're a liberal!

And people like you were saying the same thing about liberals back in the '60s, and for decades before that.

I’m a constitutional conservative not a republican. I loathe most republicans as much as I loath most democrats. As time goes on it’s really hard to find a true liberal as it is equally hard to differentiate republicans from democrats. Both parties are equally to blame for trashing our republic.

I never caught bobo disease, if anything he caught it from me. Back in my day liberals were not
calling themselves liberals and following down the path of progressivism.

I often use the term progressive Marxist because of how the progressive movement left the Democratic Party and moved on to their own agenda. Big government, wealth redistribution and a whole host of other negative policies.

I also don’t kneel at the alter of Rooseveltism, people like to characterize Roosevelt as a true progressive, is see him as the first Marxist to hold the office of presidency.

 

[icanhelp1]

Nah, passed them all first time. Reading comprehension grades always went well.

What’s the happy meal toy this week?

AR -15s with a 30 round magazine.