Despicable

[Darla_Darling]

Never, and I mean ever, are my female protagonists despicable, or even flawed. They are idealized women, at once beautiful and completely unsullied, and their sexual activity is brought about often only through the tender coercion of a powerful but loving male "antagonist".

I apologise that this has nothing to do with this thread, but you are so incredibly hot.

Okay. Glad I got that off my chest.

 

[mckai777]

I apologise that this has nothing to do with this thread, but you are so incredibly hot.

Okay. Glad I got that off my chest.

Thanks, darling.

 

[nici]

I apologise that this has nothing to do with this thread, but you are so incredibly hot.

Okay. Glad I got that off my chest.

With that finger extended, she does look kind of butch. (Which in my book is mega hot.)

 

[nici]

I would never write a character (either male or female) that wasn't flawed. Any storyline that catches my interest will have a certain amount of mental gymnastics involved, maybe not a “mind fuck” but something along that direction.

Susan, in Something We Have To Talk About, was considered by many who commented to be pure evil, the femme fatale incarnate. I don’t feel that they felt that way so much in that she was truly evil, but (for them) she was real and doing exactly that what they feared most in their own lives and from their own women.

 

[a_bent_ampersand]

Yvette

I have created a profoundly sick, despicable, diabolical, forceful, insulting, perverted, slutty, mocking, abusive, indiscreet, manipulative, and depraved maniac of a sexy teenager (read 19).

And proud of it.

I find that she serves a very vocal and appreciative fan base.

I'm curious to know if she'll serve you too.

She's currently working in the incest/taboo category but might be looking for other work soon.

Her stories are Temptation's Conquest, Temptation's Contempt, Temptation's Constant, Temptation's Contrition, Temptation's Confidence, and Temptation's Contrast

Her next chapter Temptation's Consequence should post by the end of April.

The stories can be found here: *******.com/yvettebaron

abent&

 

[agedmac]

Interesting. In my three stories, all women are seeking more, maybe that's flawed, but even my 'cheating wife' story is quite sympathetic.

I love women though and never cared much for despicable women generally.

I prefer to think of my 'imperfect' women as becoming liberated about sex.

But that's just me, an old guy! GRIN

 

[tadpole256]

Despicable seems like such a general term, and isn't everyone flawed in some way?

 

[sr71plt]

Another "none of the above" poll for me. One or two of the female protagonists I've used have been basically despicable. Ohters haven't. None of the "often," "never," "minor flaws" options fit. You can't really generalize characters when you purposely try to write with variety.

 

[nightjogger]

Flawed? Despicable? Not 'absolute' terms, in my opinion.

What seems flawed to one person, would be quite acceptable to me, or vice versa.

If you define 'flawed' as deviating from the 'normal', well, hell, all my heroines are flawed.

Gravely, irretrievably flawed, in fact.

 

[Innuendos]

Not sure how well I convey the women in my stories as less than ideal, but I write them each with a character flaw in mind, though that flaw can develop into a positive trait under the right circumstances. One has serious control issues, while another pair plays off against each other, one with anger issues, the other being emotionally needy.

To keep things realistic, I write the men the same way, with the protagonist having a history of narcissism.

Makes for more interesting storytelling, IMO, if there are personality flaws to play with.

 

[MawrGorshin]

My Camilla, in her eponymous ongoing novel, is seriously flawed, but I wouldn't say despicable. I would describe her as tragically flawed. Her excesses will eventually destroy her....though maybe she will be redeemed in some way. I can't tell you what that way is, though, for that would give away the ending.

 

[njlauren]

For me I would say, having read a lot of stories (and plotted several out but not had the guts to actually write and put out there to be read), there is a difference between flawed and despicable. A flawed woman can screw up and have an affair, or even multiple ones, or even do some things that are horrible (there is a story in the loving wives category about that, I think the title is something like the cold, gray dawn or some such, where guy is a lawyer, his wife is duped into believing he cheated, enacts a revenge scenario where she goes nuts and damn nearly kills him; turns out she has some real issues this triggered...she isn't despicable, just flawed). Flaws can allow an otherwise good person to do wrong things, or even do them for the wrong reason (there was a Xmas story like that, here a woman salesperson sleeps with clients to get the deals, figuring it would mean a better life for her and hubby, able to get a house, etc..she gets caught, the marriage goes to hell, even though her intentions were good).

Despicable is someone acting in a way that even a flawed person would know was wrong. A despicable women? The mother in "The Lazy Lemon Sun" (one of the best stories I have ever read on here) is despicable, she screws people right and left and only cares about ambition and power; the BD/SM stories I have read, like "Tough Love" Recently published, where the bitch wife or whatever gets so lost in her power she turns on the person she still claims to love, and does all kinds of horrible things to him (or her), and there is little way you can say this is a flaw, it is a person who literally IMO turns evil, there is no redeeming value to that kind of character). I guess the best description is when someone does something horrible, knows it is horrible, and whether or not it is caused by issues, etc, they transcend any sense of sympathy. Or the loving wives tales where the wife is cheating on her spouse long term, and basically forgets all about him ("fool me twice" is one of those) as if he doesn't exist and then is shocked when it all falls apart...not much sympathy there (she does sort of redeem herself at the end, and realizes how badly she acted, but it takes a mighty fall to do it).

It isn't just female characters, the men who for example cheat with a married wife and get off on breaking up marriages would be a classic case (and yes, virginia, such men do exist IRL), or the men who get off on not only screwing married women but humiliating the spouses, that is despicable; I could see arguments about sleeping with married women as being a flaw, but humiliating them too? Uh uh.

And there are gray areas, where an otherwise good person does something despicable, but there is something two it. One of Dan Steele's Stories , I believe called "The Dream Wife", where the wife does something that seems pretty cruel, she goes out and sleeps with another guy and announces it to her husband, it is a pretty despicable act, yet when you read the story you can understand the underlying problem (though the way she handles it is completely stupid). An act can be despicable, but the underlying person might be understandable (in that particular story, it does drive changes, and the husband has a major issue that needs to be addressed).

Now that raises a really interesting question..in the loving wives section there are plenty of revenge tales for cheating spouses, and some of them go beyond simply moving on and living a good life. Okay, financially ruining the guy who got the wife? Publishing photos and videos of the wife's cheating for everyone to see? Extreme, but maybe..but how about the stories where the wife cheats and the husband does something like deliberately get her infected with AIDS or something like that? Or arranges for her to be brutally raped and then sent off to some god forsaken hell hole as a prostitute or something? Who is more despicable, the cheating spouse or the person taking revenge?

 

[sdineen]

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disabled f from nj. I find your ideaS intriigng. I feel great trauma can enduce wierd reacations. exploring it is a stimulating concept.

 

[Pure]

to njl

nice posting.

i especially chose very broad terms to include a range from flawed to actively evil. the intent, of course, was to encourage a look at stories which rose above the commonplace pornish cliches, where 'characters' are simply embodiments of lust and little else.

j