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[thestruggle]

OMFG LUTHER OMFG.

Why do I even watch shows?

 

[Britwitch]

OMFG LUTHER OMFG.

Why do I even watch shows?

giggles

Ah, the joys of Idris.

 

[jack80]

Just out of curiosity....Is anyone still watching Agents of Shield?

Want to really like it... I do... but there is something missing. Skye is just not being a very likable.

I also want to like Agent May, cause I have had a crush on Ming-Na Wen ever since Street Fighter.

Ward I think can be good, and I think FitzSimmons can be interesting, but I just like Coulson, want to know what is going on with him.

 

[thestruggle]

giggles

Ah, the joys of Idris.

Shows like this just reconfirm my masochism, I swear.

 

[Veroe]

I am being provoked to violence.

1. This abomination called Gotham

2. I cant tell if I have to beat the questionable brains that are behind Scandal because they are so fucking insulting to women, or because they are so fucking insulting to adults.

If you are being provoked to violence then its contagious. Resists the sudden and nearly overwhelming temptation to beat certain heads in.

That is disappointing news, about Gotham.

Well at least I won't have to worry about breaking my embargo against watching anything on Fox with this...now I don't want to watch it. Odds are it wouldn't last the whole season anyway...they'd put it up against NCIS or something else with strong ratings on a competitor and act shocked that its garnering disappointing ratings and scrap the abomination anyway.

Haven't seen Scandal glad to say.

 

[thestruggle]

I am being provoked to violence.

1. This abomination called Gotham

2. I cant tell if I have to beat the questionable brains that are behind Scandal because they are so fucking insulting to women, or because they are so fucking insulting to adults.

Violence, you say?

whistles innocently.

 

[Light Ice]

I just want, for once, Batman to be done in a way that I can enjoy. Just once. That show looks really, really awful.

 

[Scuttle Buttin']

I am being provoked to violence.

1. This abomination called Gotham

2. I cant tell if I have to beat the questionable brains that are behind Scandal because they are so fucking insulting to women, or because they are so fucking insulting to adults.

I tried to watch Scandal, and made it through an episode and a half. Even getting to stare at Kerry Washington for an hour wasn't enough.

But what do you expect when it's a show from the person that assaulted us with Grey's Anatomy.

 

[thestruggle]

Silly girl.
You don't want my violence.
Trust me

Just a little bit? A violence apéritif?

I tried to watch Scandal, and made it through an episode and a half. Even getting to stare at Kerry Washington for an hour wasn't enough.

But what do you expect when it's a show from the person that assaulted us with Grey's Anatomy.

I hate Grey's Anatomy and I'm tired of people telling me "it's such a good show!"

 

[thestruggle]

Honestly...incredibly powerful woman who becomes pathetic because she's "in love" with some putz who will never be her's and, as best I can tell, is worth roughly half a cookie (and not a good cookie...a knock-off brand animal cracker cookie) and she can't fucking get over it because she's still in high school, apparently.
And, a president who you can't imagine ever getting anyone to vote, also becomes pathetic for exactly the same reason, and only seems even remotely close to strong when he's being a douche bag to his wife. Worst...president...ever.

Don't forget when he blames Olivia for his being "in love with her" and it's all her fault that he's fucked up. I was so pissed off.

I so often don't know what 'little bit' means.

I think it could mean "lots" but I may be wrong there.

 

[Light Ice]

I liked the recent trilogy (well, the first two, at least).

I didn't. I liked Ledger as Joker (inspired and amazing) but in general, to me, they picked a really terrible Batman and mucked it up with a muddled and often baffling plot.

Why is Batman so small and skinny? He's supposed to be a man of unmatched prowess. Why don't we ever really get into how crazy Batman really is? Why don't we ever really see just how violent he is as far as superheroes go?

I don't know. They were OK as far as movies go. Good as far as superhero movies go. But the character, I think, could be so much more. It's probably the easiest comic book character to put realistically to film if you've the gusto to really bring out what he is and turn away from the all-to-easy route of trying to sell millions of toy cars.

That's the nerd in me, I guess.

 

[Leigh81]

Thank goodness for pvr's.

Grimm, The Blacklist, Hostages, American Horror Story and the new True Detective are my current shows.

L

 

[thestruggle]

Seriously. He is, in a word, a schmuck.


You say that now...

And his relationship with Melly, which they try to sell as "complicated" is just... ugh I don't even want to talk about it.

And I can play poke Vail sometimes!

I agree about the selection of certain components. You can never go the whole distance.

 

[Light Ice]

Well, the problem is you only have a limited amount of time and space.
You can see something similar with Spider-Man.
The Sam Raimi movies focused on his feeling of responsibility and his being a loser. These are a couple of core components to Parker.
But they left out something that is actually just as big a deal, the fact that he's brilliant.
Thats been brought in with the new movies and it makes me very happy.
That's whats great about complicated characters, there's always more to do with them.
But it is also the problem. You can only pick but so much at a time.

I agree, but I'd argue that what makes Batman different then other superheroes is that he's absolutely out of his head crazy. He's probably one of the most violent, ruthless, and unforgiving creations in comics. This is a man who forgoes a life of absolute luxury and focuses the entirety of who he is in physically, and mentally, breaking down and punishing evil men.

He's tortured. He's lied to. He's tricked. He's manipulated. He has no scruples save killing and he's obsessive and very, very dangerous.

That's never brought out. Ever. And I understand it would, arguably, sell less merchandise and be less friendly to children. Still, it's the character, and it's essential to what makes him what he is.

It isn't the suit, the gadgets, or the villains. It's who he is.

We get references to it, but no real depth, because the ugliness of what that means isn't kid friendly. It does a disservice to the character.

I don't think there are many heroes in comics that are so complex and still virtuous. I'd argue Tony Stark is probably the only thing close. Maybe, and this is a stretch, Bruce Banner.

Superman is another animal. He's very limited, though, given what he is.

 

[Veroe]

Have you guys ever noticed that only the most popular actors get on people's dream cast list for this movie or that role.

I can't tell you how many people's cast lists I've seen with all the same people on it. It's always Idris Elba or Bendict Cumberbatch or Michael Fassbender or so on and so on (If people have their way those guys will never get a well deserved vacation)...and nevermind the tons of talented actors out there that haven't made it big yet just waiting for that part to really show their talent...its only actors we've seen doing the same type of role as what we've seen them do before.

We really really really suck as casting directors. Leave it to the professionals. Trust in the professionals (until you see the movie and saw the obviously miscast actor they hired).

 

[thestruggle]

I was actually going to bring up Tony Stark when Vail mentioned specific components. Really, it's some of his most obnoxious qualities that are making him sell as a film franchise. I also really, really, really liked the anxiety inclusion - it was very important and realistically portrayed. Bruce Banner, I think, is an incredibly complicated character but in that film series, they're kind of letting it stand as a "given" while everyone else gets more focus.

 

[Light Ice]

Have you guys ever noticed that only the most popular actors get on people's dream cast list for this movie or that role.

I can't tell you how many people's cast lists I've seen with all the same people on it. It's always Idris Elba or Bendict Cumberbatch or Michael Fassbender or so on and so on (If people have their way those guys will never get a well deserved vacation)...and nevermind the tons of talented actors out there that haven't made it big yet just waiting for that part to really show their talent...its only actors we've seen doing the same type of role as what we've seen them do before.

We really really really suck as casting directors. Leave it to the professionals. Trust in the professionals (until you see the movie and saw the obviously miscast actor they hired).

I, generally, agree. But Christian Bale was awful as Batman. Awful.

Great Bruce Wayne. Awful Batman.

 

[Light Ice]

I was actually going to bring up Tony Stark when Vail mentioned specific components. Really, it's some of his most obnoxious qualities that are making him sell as a film franchise. I also really, really, really liked the anxiety inclusion - it was very important and realistically portrayed. Bruce Banner, I think, is an incredibly complicated character but in that film series, they're kind of letting it stand as a "given" while everyone else gets more focus.

I agree on all fronts. I really do.

 

[Light Ice]

thats why I loved Iron Man 3, definitely. They couldn't really bring in his alcoholism, but they got at a lot of the 'good stuff'.
I also think they portrayal of Banner is perfect, and Ruffalo is just spot on with it. I'd heard bad things about him before seeing the movie and those people were just wrong.

I totally agree here, too.

 

[thestruggle]

I, generally, agree. But Christian Bale was awful as Batman. Awful.

Great Bruce Wayne. Awful Batman.

Bolded for emphasis, because that's exactly it.

thats why I loved Iron Man 3, definitely. They couldn't really bring in his alcoholism, but they got at a lot of the 'good stuff'.
I also think they portrayal of Banner is perfect, and Ruffalo is just spot on with it. I'd heard bad things about him before seeing the movie and those people were just wrong.

Iron Man 3 was just fun to watch. There wasn't much about that movie that I didn't like. And I love RDJ and Ruffalo together. They're so cute!

 

[Light Ice]

Bolded for emphasis, because that's exactly it.

And what do we get? Not nearly enough scenes of Bruce Wayne being Bruce Wayne. And way too many scenes of wimpy, scrawny, emo-growling Batman.

I like Christian Bale as an actor. Name another guy who can drop, or gain, 50 pounds in two months for a role.

But no more Terminator. And no more Comic-Book action heroes. That's not his thing. It will never be.

 

[Veroe]

Oh, I love when they cast unknowns. They don't come with any baggage and so they can really make the role their own, y'know?

But can you pick out the unknown actor that's perfect for the part. If some people had their way Idris Elba would be in everything.

I, generally, agree. But Christian Bale was awful as Batman. Awful.

Great Bruce Wayne. Awful Batman.

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Preach it brother.

My greatest desire watching the DK trilogy was to hand Bale a cough drop and tell him to use it...Now!

That and punching Batman, Gordon, Nolan, and Goyer in the face for making the greatest Batman movie I've ever seen in the Dark Knight and ruining it in the last five minutes.

 

[thestruggle]

And what do we get? Not nearly enough scenes of Bruce Wayne being Bruce Wayne. And way too many scenes of wimpy, scrawny, emo-growling Batman.

I like Christian Bale as an actor. Name another guy who can drop, or gain, 50 pounds in two months for a role.

But no more Terminator. And no more Comic-Book action heroes. That's not his thing. It will never be.

Yeah, the only reason I watched Nolan's trilogy was for the surrounding cast. Christian Bale is wonderful, I loved him in American Psycho and The Machinist. But I think he's kind of figuring out where he falls the best.

 

[thestruggle]

I liked him in Equilibrium!

I liked him in the English dub of Howl's Moving Castle!

 

[thestruggle]

One thought I had on Stark's alcoholism exclusion in the film series was RDJ's previous substance abuse - it may sound minor but it definitely is a major factor. I haven't read into this, so I'll poke around a bit.