For those who assume supporting a Trump presidency over a Biden one means being a MAGA Trumper....

Not much to concur with Politruk, but that is a textbook illustration of subjective idealism.

You created a vision of the world in your own mind, and project that into another’s mind as an explanation of their subjective mental operations. The “your [Politruk] side” remark adopts an heretical Manichean vision, and casting that around labels like ‘communist’ is a form of ideological absolutism.

You seem to postulate and write on the supposition that this creates things, gives them breath, life and brings forth being. The possibility that people may not think as you indicate apparently does not exist for you.

The hackneyed line re: Hitler’s “socialism” and the Party name is unbelievably old. Is it not said repeatedly on every forum? Or did we forget that seizing power, socialists were the first people Hitler disposed?

Why do you think WWII occurred? If not to make the world safe for IG Farben, Siemens, Daimler-Benz and Deutsche Bank, then what?

The thing with plying the term ‘Marxist’ is that in time, you meet someone who knows something about Marx’ theory of value, the alienation of labor, the coerced extraction of surplus value, historical development, labor power, the tendency of profit to decline in proportion to Capital’s development, the three social classes under capitalist organization, irresolvable antagonisms arising from class contradictions and, etc.

Know, or accept them. Why then would such assertions as described be believed at all?
I have read Marx. I have also read Hitler, the Democrat Party Platform, the Socialist Party information, and UN goals, and the BLM platform stuff (whose founders SAID they are trained Marxists), and on and on... They are all consistently saying the same thing. That's not subjective. That's just fact and observation.
 
That is a lie.
The very concept of separation of powers comes form an Old Testament passage describing God as Lawgiver, Judge, and King. THE FOUNDERS EXPRESSEDLY WROTE ABOUT THIS, as well as other Scriptural influences. In fact, an early Supreme Court ruling found that a published attack on the Bible amounted to treason because it was an attack on a foundational document for America.
No such lawyer. Perhaps you mean Blackstone.
So you know the guy. Which means you know these are facts. And you are being dishonest with history for your own agenda.
 
Because originalism is never anything more than ventriloquism in a cemetery.
The concept of an "evolving document" was never valid, in spite of the ideas imposed by activist justices, because the Constitution was designed to be FIXED LAW AS THE HIGHEST LAW AND AUTHORITY CONTROLING ALL OF AMERICAN GOVERNANCE AND LAW.
 
The very concept of separation of powers comes form an Old Testament passage describing God as Lawgiver, Judge, and King.
That's not a separation of powers. That's what Hamilton called "the very definition of tyranny" -- all powers combined in the same person.
THE FOUNDERS EXPRESSEDLY WROTE ABOUT THIS, as well as other Scriptural influences.
Not in The Federalist.
In fact, an early Supreme Court ruling found that a published attack on the Bible amounted to treason because it was an attack on a foundational document for America.
That is a lie.
So you know the guy. Which means you know these are facts. And you are being dishonest with history for your own agenda.
I know the guy, which means I know you're lying.
 
Intelligent design theory is unscientific because it is non-falsifiable. That is, it is impossible even to imagine data which, if discovered, would definitely disprove it.

Young-Earth creationism fails the most basic scientific test of rejection of authority. It is something nobody ignorant of the Biblical narrative ever would come up with from looking at the data.
There is PLENTY of scientific evidence for both. Go to the Center For Creation Research, among MANY other resources from the scientific community (and that isn't defined by the Smithsonian and National Geographic), but this is not a conversation for this thread.
 
Fuck your God. Sorry bastard needed to rest.
I worship gods that aren’t lazy.
Satan never sleeps!

Haha. I’ve no clue what the conversation is about nor, if it’s from JS, do I give a care. I’m just here to torment this fraud.
 
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That's not a separation of powers. That's what Hamilton called "the very definition of tyranny" -- all powers combined in the same person.
They based it on the need for each of those, recognizing that man is not God, is fallen, therefore needs government, but the government, itself being made up of men, is also a problem, so taking the principle, but separating the powers into check, balances, slow, clunky processes, and accountability, with the ability to be overthrown by the people if it got out of hand.
Not in The Federalist.

That is a lie.

I know the guy, which means I know you're lying.
Blackstone was required reading in Law School BECAUSE the very reasons I cite are true. And I have read him. His law books make good Bible studies on Law, passages of Scripture included, cited, and cross referenced included.
 
Blackstone was required reading in Law School BECAUSE the very reasons I cite are true. And I have read him. His law books make good Bible studies on Law, passages of Scripture included, cited, and cross referenced included.
You're lying.

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Of great importance to the public is the preservation of this personal liberty; for if once it were left in the power of any the highest magistrate to imprison arbitrarily whomever he or his officers thought proper, (as in France it is daily practised by the crown,) there would soon be an end of all other rights and immunities. Some have thought that unjust attacks, even upon life or property, at the arbitrary will of the magistrate, are less dangerous to the commonwealth than such as are made upon the personal liberty of the subject. To bereave a man of life, or by violence to confiscate his estate, without accusation or trial, would be so gross and notorious an act of despotism, as must at once convey the alarm of tyranny throughout the whole kingdom; but confinement of the person, by secretly hurrying him to jail, where his sufferings are unknown or forgotten, is a less public, a less striking, and therefore a more dangerous engine of arbitrary government.[17]
[T]he principal aim of society is to protect individuals in the enjoyment of those absolute rights, which were vested in them by the immutable laws of nature, but which could not be preserved in peace without that mutual assistance and intercourse which is gained by the institution of friendly and social communities. Hence it follows, that the first and primary end of human laws is to maintain and regulate these absolute rights of individuals.[17]
That the King can do no wrong, is a necessary and fundamental principle of the English constitution.[18]
There is nothing which so generally strikes the imagination, and engages the affections of mankind, as the right of property; or that sole and despotic dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in total exclusion of the right of any other individual in the universe. And yet there are very few, that will give themselves the trouble to consider the original and foundation of this right.[20]
Nothing Scriptural even in tone.
 
Fuck your God. Sorry bastard needed to rest.
I worship gods that aren’t lazy.
Satan never sleeps!

Haha. I’ve no clue what the conversation is about nor, if it’s from JS, do I give a care. I’m just here to torment this fraud.
Really? That's what you think was meant by "on the 7th day God rested"?
"By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made." Gen. 2:2-3 "Jesus said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.'" Mark 2:27 God took the 7th to ENJOY the creation He made for Man's benefit and His Pleasure and Glory. And he set the day, not because HE needed rest, but because MAN needs a day for rest and worship. It wasn't a lazy resting. It was a gift of love and fellowship. Only a twisted mind would read it any other way.

Oh, and read Job. Satan needs God's permission to do anything. He does not ever act outside God's Sovereign control. And all he does is part of a larger plan already determined before God created him as an angel of light.
 
I have read Marx. I have also read Hitler, the Democrat Party Platform, the Socialist Party information, and UN goals, and the BLM platform stuff (whose founders SAID they are trained Marxists), and on and on... They are all consistently saying the same thing.
You're lying.
 
Really? That's what you think was meant by "on the 7th day God rested"?
"By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made." Gen. 2:2-3 "Jesus said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.'" Mark 2:27 God took the 7th to ENJOY the creation He made for Man's benefit and His Pleasure and Glory. And he set the day, not because HE needed rest, but because MAN needs a day for rest and worship. It wasn't a lazy resting. It was a gift of love and fellowship. Only a twisted mind would read it any other way.

Oh, and read Job. Satan needs God's permission to do anything. He does not ever act outside God's Sovereign control. And all he does is part of a larger plan already determined before God created him as an angel of light.


Mr. MorningStar got a good belly laugh out of that one.
 
Really? That's what you think was meant by "on the 7th day God rested"?
Yep! Sue me.
"By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made." Gen. 2:2-3
I dunno. I guess the Bible has a different definition of resting than I do. I thought resting meant that you were tired. Needed sleep. Needed rest. Why does god need any of that? Meh, I’m gonna stick with her ass being lazy.

"Jesus said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.'" Mark 2:27 God took the 7th to ENJOY the creation He made for Man's benefit and His Pleasure and Glory. And he set the day, not because HE needed rest, but because MAN needs a day for rest and worship. It wasn't a lazy resting. It was a gift of love and fellowship. Only a twisted mind would read it any other way.

All this is just your opinion. I think I’ll stick with mine. Fits the narrative better.

Oh, and read Job. Satan needs God's permission to do anything. He does not ever act outside God's Sovereign control.
Lol. I’m glad we can agree that god allows evil and the killing of an Iranian woman by her brother is just as justified by god as me walking out IKEA without paying for a sofa.
And all he does is part of a larger plan already determined before God created him as an angel of light.

Yeah, yeah, yeah god needs the world in ruins before she gets her lazy ass up to do anything. I think I got it.

Bn2f has real Christian friends who they respect and admire. JS is a fuckin fraud of a member imitating and distorting Christian principles.
 
Yep! Sue me.
Your bias does not define a document.
I dunno. I guess the Bible has a different definition of resting than I do. I thought resting meant that you were tired. Needed sleep. Needed rest. Why does god need any of that? Meh, I’m gonna stick with her ass being lazy.
Here's an interesting fact: THE OT WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW NOT ENGLISH. The Hebrew word here never has any context of being tired. Maybe stop being lazy in YOUR STUDY.
"Jesus said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.'" Mark 2:27 God took the 7th to ENJOY the creation He made for Man's benefit and His Pleasure and Glory. And he set the day, not because HE needed rest, but because MAN needs a day for rest and worship. It wasn't a lazy resting. It was a gift of love and fellowship. Only a twisted mind would read it any other way.

All this is just your opinion. I think I’ll stick with mine. Fits the narrative better.
Not my opinion. What God actually said in Scripture. And it is consistent with the whole of Scripture. You interpret the document by the document and what the Author said He meant. It also talks about Christ BEING our Sabbath. Our restoration of fellowship and enjoyment and worship received. See, the passage is not given to be twisted into any context you like. Your read the WHOLE book as it is written, then understand it in the light of the whole. You know, actual study.
Lol. I’m glad we can agree that god allows evil and the killing of an Iranian woman by her brother is just as justified by god as me walking out IKEA without paying for a sofa.
God allows choice because fellowship and relationship is based on choice. God also allows and controls without being the source of evil. He also holds each person accountable for their evil, including that murder and your theft. And He brings it all together for good and glory. And, here is the most important part, it is all about His Glory, not your comfort or opinion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah god needs the world in ruins before she gets her lazy ass up to do anything. I think I got it.
When God shows up on the scene, it's over. He is there as judge, and if you have rejected Him and His rule you are damned. He holds off judgement so YOU will have the opportunity to be spared. Hos holding back is a MERCY FOR YOUR SAKE!!!
Bn2f has real Christian friends who they respect and admire. JS is a fuckin fraud of a member imitating and distorting Christian principles.
Your idea of a Christian is one who holds liberal positions in a twisted version of Scripture that leaves it to man's ideas to interpret. Problem is that the Bib le says it is not left to ANY PRIVATE interpretation. That it stands on its own interpretation as given in the Bible. Period.
 
That is heavily quoted and cited. Facts is facts whether or not you like the source. Read it and cross reference. Or are you too lazy?
 
Your bias does not define a document.

I worship this.


“Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary who hung around with lepers hookers and crooks; wasn’t American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (M 6:5); was never anti-gay, never mentioned abortion or birth control, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a co-pay; and was a long-haired, brown-skinned, homeless, community-organizing, anti-slut-shaming, Middle Eastern Jew.”
J. Fugelsang.
 
I know Christians.
You, sir, are no Christian.
If Hell we’re real - I’d rather go there than to be in your idea of a Heaven. Fuck off.
 
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