For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

Ukrainian propaganda. Explain why the weak, underresourced, ill-trained, and decimated Russian army is still in control of the vast majority of territory it started with?

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375

The blue specks seen along the line of contact on the interactive map represent the puny efforts being made by the alleged "Ukrainian offensive."
 
Ukrainian propaganda. Explain why the weak, underresourced, ill-trained, and decimated Russian army is still in control of the vast majority of territory it started with?

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375

The blue specks seen along the line of contact on the interactive map represent the puny efforts being made by the alleged "Ukrainian offensive."
It's literally an Estonian white paper about strategies to win the war. No propaganda involved. You can argue that the strategies won't work, but not that it's propaganda.

But nice deflection into something else
 

Ukrainians accuse Russia of kidnapping, indoctrinating Ukrainian children


Officially, the Ukrainian government has documented more than 19,000 children taken by Russia, but told us they worry the actual number could be closer to 300,000 children. The International Criminal Court has charged Russian President Vladimir Putin and his commissioner for children's rights with the war crimes of unlawful deportation and transfer of children.
 
It's literally an Estonian white paper about strategies to win the war. No propaganda involved. You can argue that the strategies won't work, but not that it's propaganda.

But nice deflection into something else
A white paper published in Ukraine.
 
Bummer Russia lost three SU-34 bombers, seems Russia didn't notice Ukraine placing a Patriot battery that could cover the range of those guided bombs these aircraft use....Ukraine has already decimated the Russian K-52 helicopter fleet, and now it seems Russia has to use and lose these much more expensive airframes.
 
A white paper published in Ukraine.

Incorrect. An article in the Ukranians paper. Estonia wrote the white paper.

Was it published anywhere else?


Once again, an intellectually superior person has shown me to be wrong.
*chuckles*
 
I see the .pdf but where was it published in the European press other than in Ukraine?
So back to your original statement and repeating, it is not propaganda...it's an official government release by Estonia.
 
ISW is now blowing the whistle in panic over the present situation that I have described already exists:


Institute for the Study of War: Russia May Conquer ALL of Ukraine if Aid Stops – American Think Tank Warns Stealth Fighters Will Be Diverted From Taiwan Defense​

By Paul Serran Dec. 24, 2023 5:00 pm

According to the ISW text, the United States ‘has a much higher stake in Russia’s war on Ukraine than most people think’.

“A Russian conquest of all of Ukraine is by no means impossible if the United States cuts off all military assistance and Europe follows suit.”
That’s it: instead of talking about a ‘stalemate’, the Think Tank talks about Russian troops going as far as NATO’s border from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean.

Russia replaced manpower losses and are ramping up their industrial base, transforming it into an even deadlier force.

“A victorious Russian army at the end of this war will be combat experienced and considerably larger than the pre-2022 Russian land forces.”

The Russian economy will gradually recover, ISW believes, as sanctions erode and Moscow circumvents or mitigates the remaining ones.

“It will bring with it advanced air defense systems that only American stealth aircraft—badly needed to deter and confront China—can reliably penetrate. Russia can pose a major conventional military threat to NATO for the first time since the 1990s
The rest here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/institute-study-war-russia-may-conquer-all-ukraine/

But the question is how could this happen if the Russians were all but defeated by Ukraine and have lost most of their army and weapons as the left wants us to believe?
 
ISW is now blowing the whistle in panic over the present situation that I have described already exists:


Institute for the Study of War: Russia May Conquer ALL of Ukraine if Aid Stops – American Think Tank Warns Stealth Fighters Will Be Diverted From Taiwan Defense​

By Paul Serran Dec. 24, 2023 5:00 pm

According to the ISW text, the United States ‘has a much higher stake in Russia’s war on Ukraine than most people think’.

“A Russian conquest of all of Ukraine is by no means impossible if the United States cuts off all military assistance and Europe follows suit.”
That’s it: instead of talking about a ‘stalemate’, the Think Tank talks about Russian troops going as far as NATO’s border from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean.

Russia replaced manpower losses and are ramping up their industrial base, transforming it into an even deadlier force.

“A victorious Russian army at the end of this war will be combat experienced and considerably larger than the pre-2022 Russian land forces.”

The Russian economy will gradually recover, ISW believes, as sanctions erode and Moscow circumvents or mitigates the remaining ones.

“It will bring with it advanced air defense systems that only American stealth aircraft—badly needed to deter and confront China—can reliably penetrate. Russia can pose a major conventional military threat to NATO for the first time since the 1990s
The rest here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/institute-study-war-russia-may-conquer-all-ukraine/

But the question is how could this happen if the Russians were all but defeated by Ukraine and have lost most of their army and weapons as the left wants us to believe?

Physician, what’s the remedy ?
 
ISW is now blowing the whistle in panic over the present situation that I have described already exists:


Institute for the Study of War: Russia May Conquer ALL of Ukraine if Aid Stops – American Think Tank Warns Stealth Fighters Will Be Diverted From Taiwan Defense​

The words in red mean way more than your all caps "all".

But the ISW has a point, Russia has a huge resource of manpower, and 1960's or older equipment. Still enough to overrun an army which has no weapons or aid.

Oh and aren't you one who is calling to cease aid to Ukraine? Why would that be?
 
Just for RussiaGuide. The former Supreme Commander of NATO tells us:
  • Ukraine military supplies consumed 5% of the American military budget
  • It destroyed HALF of the fighting capability of the Russian army.
  • There was not a single American life lost.
When was the last time you heard a single word about how much of the Ukrainian Army has been destroyed? Or any such detail about Ukrainian losses? Maybe RobinetteDownSouth could clues us in.
 
When was the last time you heard a single word about how much of the Ukrainian Army has been destroyed? Or any such detail about Ukrainian losses? Maybe RobinetteDownSouth could clues us in.

See:

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Poor RussiaGuide.

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When was the last time you heard a single word about how much of the Ukrainian Army has been destroyed? Or any such detail about Ukrainian losses? Maybe RobinetteDownSouth could clues us in.

It doesn’t suit your politically locked in position, but the bottom line is Russia has lost thousands of main battle tanks and heavy equipment - besides the men that go with it - and is fucked for years as a serious fighting force. All this from a 3 day operation to crush a supposedly weak neighbour.

The plan to put a stop to NATO expansion has gone so well that Finland and Sweden are now in NATO. Right now, those two on their own could be in Moscow in a week if they wanted.

The cost of this will start landing on the Russian people this financial year.

No NATO deaths involved, and most of what’s been required is military kit that was heading for de-commissioning.

Fortunately for Putin he can look forward to Trump and his fan club riding to his rescue and handing Russia a victory.
 
When was the last time you heard a single word about how much of the Ukrainian Army has been destroyed? Or any such detail about Ukrainian losses? Maybe RobinetteDownSouth could clues us in.
If you actually look at sources not tied to the bullshit ones you post all the time,the data on losses is there. Feel free to go to https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/.

As Forbes states ( and you have cited Forbes so you have to accept the citation) has called Oryx "the most reliable source in the conflict so far", calling its services "outstanding". Because it reports only visually confirmed losses, Forbes claimed that Oryx's tallies of equipment losses have formed absolute minimum baselines for loss estimates.
 
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