For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Fuzzy1975]

Biden is a fool for provoking that proxy war in Ukraine.

Wow, we sure must give Putin credit for the logistical miracle of amassing an army with all the gear, and developing a plan to invade Ukraine in 32 days....just fucking amazing. I guess that's why it fell flat on it's face and that three day operational plan turned into a 3 year war....

and if you can't read the sarcasm in my post, you're even stupider than I think. No army goes to war on the offensive with 32 days of planing. Putin planed on invading no matter which President got elected. He was planing this for 3 or 4 years in advance. He just knew if it was Trump, he'd win immediately.

Do you even take a moment to think about what you believe, to check the realities of what you believe...nah you don't, not for one fucking second.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Wow, we sure must give Putin credit for the logistical miracle of amassing an army with all the gear, and developing a plan to invade Ukraine in 32 days....just fucking amazing. I guess that's why it fell flat on it's face and that three day operational plan turned into a 3 year war....

and if you can't read the sarcasm in my post, you're even stupider than I think. No army goes to war on the offensive with 32 days of planing. Putin planed on invading no matter which President got elected. He was planing this for 3 or 4 years in advance. He just knew if it was Trump, he'd win immediately.

Do you even take a moment to think about what you believe, to check the realities of what you believe...nah you don't, not for one fucking second.

I've always thought Russia's invasion of Ukraine was planned with the assumption that Trump would still be in the White House. When Biden was elected instead, the mobilization had too much momentum to be easily called off, so Putin crossed his fingers and took a gamble.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I've always thought Russia's invasion of Ukraine was planned with the assumption that Trump would still be in the White House. When Biden was elected instead, the mobilization had too much momentum to be easily called off, so Putin crossed his fingers and took a gamble.

I'm of the same mind.

Putin started training, mobilisation, material logistics back in Aug of 2020, well before the election. On the premise of Trump being in power. I also believe he held off even after Biden's inauguration to see if Trump could somehow still be reinstated. Once he understood that was not going to happen, he launched the invasion.

 

[Lazaran]

I'm of the same mind.

Putin started training, mobilisation, material logistics back in Aug of 2020, well before the election. On the premise of Trump being in power. I also believe he held off even after Biden's inauguration to see if Trump could somehow still be reinstated. Once he understood that was not going to happen, he launched the invasion.

And the actual timing of the invasion was meant to exacerbate inflation in the U.S. before the 2022 midterms to help “republicans” who are now trying to sabotage the Ukrainian war effort.

Also:

The artificially exacerbated inflation cause by Putin’s war of choice likely helped elect right wing ultranationalist authoritarians elsewhere in the world.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The artificially exacerbated inflation cause by Putin’s war of choice likely helped elect right wing ultranationalist authoritarians elsewhere in the world.

JFC

SAD!!!

Well I'm sure there were a whole lot of voters who didn't want their tax's raised to support Ukraine, and I'm sure they voted for whichever party promised not to. Regardless of which side of the spectrum that party is.

 

[Lazaran]

Well I'm sure there were a whole lot of voters who didn't want their tax's raised to support Ukraine, and I'm sure they voted for whichever party promised not to. Regardless of which side of the spectrum that party is.

I’m a results guy.

The end results sure seem to indicate that the exacerbated inflation helped right wing ultranationalist authoritarians to a great degree.

*nods*

Side note:

When you think about it, businesses themselves can tilt elections against an incumbent simply by deciding to make certain “choices” that make the common voters’ lives more difficult. - The price gouging in the food sector, housing, etc, sure do suggest that an "invisible hand” is at work to help the corrupt orange traitor who gave corporations and billionaires yuuuuuuge tax cuts.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

James Comer: FBI Doc Alleges ‘Business Person from Ukraine’ Sent ‘Substantial Bribe’ to VP Biden​

WENDELL HUSEBØ7 Jun 2023

The FBI’s informant file of a $5 million bribery scheme allegedly linked to President Joe Biden concerns the family’s business deals in Ukraine, House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) revealed Monday.

In May, Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) made bombshell claims after reviewing an FBI FD-1023 form that documented the informant’s allegations of an alleged bribery scheme involving an exchange of money for policy decisions between now-President Joe Biden and a foreign national. Comer disclosed the informant tip is dated June 30, 2020.

“Yes, it is Ukraine,” Comer told The Just the News. “This form 1023 involves a business person from Ukraine, who allegedly sent a bribe, a substantial bribe to then Vice President Joe Biden.”

The Biden family frequently visited Ukraine for its respective business. Then-Vice President Joe Biden served as the Obama administration’s Ukrainian “point person” on U.S. foreign policy. He visited Ukraine six times while serving as vice president.

More here: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...m-ukraine-sent-substantial-bribe-to-vp-biden/

I said long ago there is good reason to believe that Joe Biden has been compromised by Ukraine and other countries.

Direct link to the report (PDF)- props for the title -
White House for Sale:
How Princes, Prime Ministers, and Premiers
Paid Off President Trump

Joe Biden wasn't being paid off by foreigners. It was Donald Trump.

 

[jomar]

Biden is a fool for provoking that proxy war in Ukraine.

Keep it up. The broken record technique works on your target audience.

 

[coati]

I admire the men and women of Ukraine who are fighting the invasion of Deplorables.

The Deplorables in this country should take heed that freedom-loving people are not going to put up with Deplorable autocracy.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It’s getting awfully close to make or break time on the Ukraine funding request.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It’s getting awfully close to make or break time on the Ukraine funding request.

I bought my drone for the month.

 

[ll74]

The long held story was that Johnson was the reason the talks collapsed. That was not true.

Diplomacy Watch: New Revelations Shed Light On Early Talks​

According to Arakhamiia, Johnson met with officials in Kyiv and “said that we would not sign anything with [the Russians] at all, and let's just fight.” However, the Ukrainian official denied that his team was on the verge of signing a deal — a decision he says could only have come from a direct meeting between the presidents of Ukraine and Russia — and insisted that Johnson’s comments were meant as advice, not a command.

Another reason for rejecting Russia’s proposal, per Arakhamiia, was that such a move would require an amendment to Ukraine’s constitution, which stipulates that the country intends to join NATO. Ukrainian officials have also previously cited Russian atrocities in Bucha as a key motive for pulling out of talks.

 

[Rightguide]

Keeping Russia from taking the country was a victory. People seem to ignore that. Russia attacked from multiple entry points into kyiv

Russia never wanted to take the whole country. They wanted to topple Zelensky.

 

[Rightguide]

It’s getting awfully close to make or break time on the Ukraine funding request.

Ukraine is out of military-aged men. The average age in their army is now 43 and climbing.

 

[Rightguide]

Joe Biden wasn't being paid off by foreigners. It was Donald Trump.

You lie. Prove he was bribed by foreigners.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Ukraine is out of military-aged men. The average age in their army is now 43 and climbing.

Russia has now had more casualties than the number of combat ready men, with which they start the war.

You can watch them lose 780 of them right here....

 

[ll74]

Russia never wanted to take the whole country. They wanted to topple Zelensky.

Youve said this on numerous occasions. There is no proof of this.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Russia never wanted to take the whole country. They wanted to topple Zelensky.

Bullshit, and Putin put pen to paper on EXACTLY what he wants.

A link to Putin's own paper is embedded in the article.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...ew-ukraine-essay-reflects-imperial-ambitions/

Fuck why do you argue against such easily proven facts???? Are you really that stupid, or just trolling everyone????

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

You lie. Prove he was bribed by foreigners.

https://oversightdemocrats.house.go...files/2024-01-04.COA DEMS - Mazars Report.pdf

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The aid package continues to look doubtful without serious asylum and parole reform at the border.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The aid package continues to look doubtful without serious asylum and parole reform at the border.

Unfortunately.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Russia never wanted to take the whole country. They wanted to topple Zelensky.

Yes. If Russia ever wanted to take the whole of Ukraine, it was very early in the war, before Boris Johnson, the then British Prime Minister, scuppered a peace deal, and after the Russians had failed to cause the collapse of the Zelensky regime in Kiev. Since then, the balance of forces inside Ukraine has changed to the point of bitterness in Western Ukraine, so why would Russia want to control these hostile anti-Russian areas?

US propaganda about the whole war is just very odd. Before the invasion, Russia only controlled Crimea from Ukraine's 2013 borders, while the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics controlled parts of the Donbass. Today, Russia controls not only Crimea, but the vast majority of the Donbass and all of the Black Sea coast east of the Dnieper river. How on Earth is that any success for NATO or for Ukraine when Ukraine control far less land than before the invasion and is threatened with possibly being landlocked by Russia? The NATO propaganda doesn't make any sense, especially when Russia's economy grew in 2023 and it turns its attentions more southwards and eastwards instead of westwards. Not only that, but the Biden administration has wasted billions and billions of Americans' federal taxes on this madness. The way I see, they insult our intelligence and cannot admit their defeat, because it's election year. Zelensky and his friends in Kiev would have been better off accepting that peace deal from March-April 2022, or the original Minsk Accords and they'd still have their Black Sea coast, but NATO (especially Boris Johnson) told them to accept no peace. Look at how worse off Ukraine will be as a result, not to mention taxpayers in the US and other NATO countries. Most of all, the deaths of tens of thousands of people while armaments companies got richer.

 

[ll74]

Yes. If Russia ever wanted to take the whole of Ukraine, it was very early in the war, before Boris Johnson, the then British Prime Minister, scuppered a peace deal, and after the Russians had failed to cause the collapse of the Zelensky regime in Kiev. Since then, the balance of forces inside Ukraine has changed to the point of bitterness in Western Ukraine, so why would Russia want to control these hostile anti-Russian areas?

US propaganda about the whole war is just very odd. Before the invasion, Russia only controlled Crimea from Ukraine's 2013 borders, while the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics controlled parts of the Donbass. Today, Russia controls not only Crimea, but the vast majority of the Donbass and all of the Black Sea coast east of the Dnieper river. How on Earth is that any success for NATO or for Ukraine when Ukraine control far less land than before the invasion and is threatened with possibly being landlocked by Russia? The NATO propaganda doesn't make any sense, especially when Russia's economy grew in 2023 and it turns its attentions more southwards and eastwards instead of westwards. Not only that, but the Biden administration has wasted billions and billions of Americans' federal taxes on this madness. The way I see, they insult our intelligence and cannot admit their defeat, because it's election year.

Yah, about that Johnson narrative....

Ukraine made their own choice in the matter.

But keep preaching that horseshit

 

[RandyRebecca]

Yah, about that Johnson narrative....

Ukraine made their own choice in the matter.

But keep preaching that horseshit

Ukraine made their choice, and have since lost nearly all their Black Sea coast land to Russia.

Now, you tell mean how Ukraine is winning the war?

 

[ll74]

Ukraine made their choice, and have since lost nearly all their Black Sea coast land to Russia.

Now, you tell mean how Ukraine is winning the war?

Ukraine making their own choices is winning.

Whether they completely expel the invaders or not is probably not as certain.

The Russian war continues.