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For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

Rightguide said:
He is only one of many who have contacts on the ground in Ukraine and Europe who are reporting the truth. Face it, you've been lied to.
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Feel free to read the response to Sachs if you want.

You won't.
 
ll74 said:
Feel free to read the response to Sachs if you want.

You won't.
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All I have to do is turn on the TV or read the liberal press to get the same BS about Ukraine, why we're in Ukraine, how the Russians are incompetent and being destroyed on the battlefield, how the Russian economy has been destroyed by our sanctions, etc, etc. if any of that were true Ukraine wouldn't be teetering on the brink of destruction, the average age of what is left of its army wouldn't be 43, and the much-vaunted Spring Offensive of last year wouldn't have failed, and a massive Russian offensive for May/June wouldn't be forming in the East as we speak.
 
Rightguide said:
It could be much worse. We haven't fought a peer-level enemy since WWII, nor have we trained or equipped our military to do so. In WWII the US had 90 Army divisions which included 25 Armored divisions in the field against the Germans. We had 21 US Army and airborne divisions and 6 Marine Divisions in the Pacific Theater. Today in total we have 15 Army divisions (some under-strength) and 3 Marine divisions.
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NATO would walk over Russia in a matter of days. Right now it is only Ukraine's lack of air superiority that limits their ability to go on the offensive.
 
Rightguide said:
All I have to do is turn on the TV or read the liberal press to get the same BS about Ukraine, why we're in Ukraine, how the Russians are incompetent and being destroyed on the battlefield, how the Russian economy has been destroyed by our sanctions, etc, etc. if any of that were true Ukraine wouldn't be teetering on the brink of destruction, the average age of what is left of its army wouldn't be 43, and the much-vaunted Spring Offensive of last year wouldn't have failed, and a massive Russian offensive for May/June wouldn't be forming in the East as we speak.
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None of that relates to Sachs or the response to him.

You're a broken record.

Russia invaded Ukraine and Ukraine has a right to defend itself.
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
NATO would walk over Russia in a matter of days. Right now it is only Ukraine's lack of air superiority that limits their ability to go on the offensive.
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With what army? Explain in detail how this would play out against the world's biggest nuclear arsenal. Recall that we have "41,000 U.S. Army Soldiers throughout Europe and Africa with more than 62,000 family members." We are the biggest contributor to NATO.

https://www.europeafrica.army.mil/P...eet 03082021.pdf?ver=2RoIT5wSRaHhBRpUz26yvw==
 
Rightguide said:
With what army? Explain in detail
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The current standing one. US 480,000 Turkey 280,000 Finland 280,00, That seems like a higher number than Russia, but hey there are still 29 more countries to go....
Rightguide said:
how this would play out against the world's biggest nuclear arsenal.
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LOL, I'm willing to find out, you're the chickenshit who keeps worrying about what Putin would do....
Rightguide said:
Recall that we have "41,000 U.S. Army Soldiers throughout Europe and Africa with more than 62,000 family members." We are the biggest contributor to NATO.

https://www.europeafrica.army.mil/Portals/19/documents/Infographics/USAREURAF Fact Sheet 03082021.pdf?ver=2RoIT5wSRaHhBRpUz26yvw==
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Yes the US is the largest component, and NATO would kick the shit out of Russian troops. isn't that what I said in my previous post?
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
The current standing one. US 480,000 Turkey 280,000 Finland 280,00, That seems like a higher number than Russia, but hey there are still 29 more countries to go....

LOL, I'm willing to find out, you're the chickenshit who keeps worrying about what Putin would do....

Yes the US is the largest component, and NATO would kick the shit out of Russian troops. isn't that what I said in my previous post?
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Do you realize the leader of China stated that an attack on Russia from nato would result in China entering the conflict? That along with the north Koreans being added to the mix.....add to that the "5th column" that exists within the borders of the United States, by some estimates 500,000 illegal alien Chinese.... why, your own coward government has elements of the Chinese military already stationed within Canada...... jmho...
 
Buffalogurl said:
Do you realize the leader of China stated that an attack on Russia from nato would result in China entering the conflict?
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No I don't, have a citation for that. Also ask me if I care what China said....
Buffalogurl said:
That along with the north Koreans being added to the mix.....add to that the "5th column" that exists within the borders of the United States, by some estimates 500,000 illegal alien Chinese....
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lol yes the Chinese are coming to take over America......
Buffalogurl said:
why, your own coward government has elements of the Chinese military already stationed within Canada...... jmho...
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Again, not like I don't believe you, but do you have a citation?
 
Military age is childraising age. Nations with birthrates below replacement rates are either reluctant to throw their future parents into war, or they're done as nations. Filling the gap with huge numbers of immigrants will make them colonies of the immigrants' native lands.
 
Chernosoth said:
Military age is childraising age. Nations with birthrates below replacement rates are either reluctant to throw their future parents into war, or they're done as nations. Filling the gap with huge numbers of immigrants will make them colonies of the immigrants' native lands.
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Yes we get you don't like POC immigrants, but you're in a negative population rate with the citizens. Maybe that's why MAGA is so against abortion eh?

War is not the driver of population decline, selfishness is.
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
NATO would walk over Russia in a matter of days. Right now it is only Ukraine's lack of air superiority that limits their ability to go on the offensive.
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I honestly wonder what world you live in. NATO have depleted their weapons resources in helping out the Euromaidan regime in Ukraine and the war effort. Russia's economy is now on a war footing, and they've got plenty of bombs, missiles, shells, tanks and planes. The denialism of the pro-NATO people is quite staggering to behold!

In addition, NATO is now fighting on multiple fronts. Fighting on multiple fronts, as history shows, is the death of empires.
 
RandyRebecca said:
I honestly wonder what world you live in. NATO have depleted their weapons resources in helping out the Euromaidan regime in Ukraine and the war effort. Russia's economy is now on a war footing, and they've got plenty of bombs, missiles, shells, tanks and planes. The denialism of the pro-NATO people is quite staggering to behold!

In addition, NATO is now fighting on multiple fronts. Fighting on multiple fronts, as history shows, is the death of empires.
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You may want to wait on Putin to tell you the latest before commenting
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
No I don't, have a citation for that. Also ask me if I care what China said....

lol yes the Chinese are coming to take over America......

Again, not like I don't believe you, but do you have a citation?
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https://www.timesnownews.com/world/...s-nato-attack-russia-report-article-108555663
Here's the article about what the Chinese stated with regard to coming to Russia’s defense.......fuzzy, I am mistaken it is the new leader of the ministry of defense that made the statement not winny the poo/Xi jinping... in my defense I read so much of this shit I get my leaders mixed up 🤷‍♂️....
 
Buffalogurl said:
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/...s-nato-attack-russia-report-article-108555663
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One cite from a far right source.

Overall, we rate Times Now as Right Biased on editiorial positions that favor the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the promotion of pro-government propaganda and a few failed fact checks.
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/...s-nato-attack-russia-report-article-108555663
Buffalogurl said:
Here's the article about what the Chinese stated with regard to coming to Russia’s defense.......fuzzy, I am mistaken it is the new leader of the ministry of defense that made the statement not winny the poo/Xi jinping...
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No worries, I don't give any credit to China' and propaganda. The fact is, if China intervened, the US would shut off imports. As would the rest of NATO. Right now Xi's economy is hanging by a thread. Tariffs don't matter, since the Chinese don't pay them, that comes from the consumer. But if there was a ban, now China gets nothing, and their economy tanks.
Buffalogurl said:
in my defense I read so much of this shit I get my leaders mixed up 🤷‍♂️....
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You should stop reading shit and try some better sources. Reuters, BBC, CBC, and ABC (Australian) are all pretty much centre bias and factual.
 
Rightguide said:
Why don't you refute her points with facts instead of the "you're a Russian agent" bullshit?
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I don't need to argue Putin's talking points. Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine is defending itself.
 
Rightguide said:
Here's Tony Blinken inviting a nuclear war with Russia:

Here Comes World War III: Tony Blinken Announces Ukraine will be Joining NATO – Pushing US Closer to Nuclear War with Russia​

By Jim Hoft Apr. 4, 2024 1:40 pm

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775926842257813910



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/here-comes-world-war-iii-tony-blinken-announces/
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Russia invaded Ukraine. If it hadnt have done so, Finland, Norway and Ukraine would not be becoming a part of NATO.
 
ll74 said:
Back when the "peace deal" was being worked and rejected by Zelensky
-- 2022

In New Poll, 89% of Ukrainians Reject Ceding Land to Reach Peace With Russia​

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Of course, after a bitter war of however many dead soldiers in a war that should never have happened. However, the fact is that Ukraine simply don't have the resources to defeat Russia. NATO always played a game of giving Ukraine enough to cause Russia some problems, but never enough to risk a direct war between NATO and Russia. The idea from the warmongers in the US/NATO was "A nice war to drain Russia's resources, and not risk any American lives".
 
RandyRebecca said:
Of course, after a bitter war of however many dead soldiers in a war that should never have happened. However, the fact is that Ukraine simply don't have the resources to defeat Russia. NATO always played a game of giving Ukraine enough to cause Russia some problems, but never enough to risk a direct war between NATO and Russia. The idea from the warmongers in the US/NATO was "A nice war to drain Russia's resources, and not risk any American lives".
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So Ukranians agreed with the decision not to proceed.

Democracy!

Zelensky was right.
 
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