Forced Orgasms?

[rida]

Good luck to both of you. Its great to have a site where you can learn stuff and get ideas. Just remember that both of your happiness is the ultimate measure of success, nothing else.

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My wife submits to me in many ways, but she is not my submissive, at least not in the way it is typically understood in a D/s BDSM community. I think the biggest mistake I made in the 21 years we have been married was trying to impose or make our relationship fit into a D/s BDSM mold. There are many aspects of our lives 24/7 which have strong currents of D/s running through it both in and out of the bedroom. I am sure that my expereinces are not the same as many full realized D/s BDSM couples here in this community, but the good news is, that's ok they don't need to be.

My view of D/s has always been relationship based. Simply meaning that many of the things which are shared and expressed within a D/s type relationship can only be done so when there is a strong relationship in place. This is a bit different from being able to Top and Bottom while particpating in BDSM activities. For some being able to participate in BDSM activites doesn't require a core relationship to exist. Going to a club or a play party might be examples of this. For me, BDSM activities find expression within the D/s relationship. Again different from many of people expereinces, but again the good news is thats ok.

I was introduced or first learned about D/s and BDSM from online many years ago. I have spent a lot of time unlearning many of the things I believed D/s and BDSM was suppose to be. I had so many errant expectations because I bought into the romantsized fairy tale that is often pupetuated online about D/s and BDSM.

It is really good to hear or see that you and your husband have a relationship where you are both sharing and expereincing each other. Remain true to that and over time you will see that what you have, is much more precious and wonderful than anything. May you both enjoy the journey together and may it be a long one.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Hubby and I both feel very lucky that we have met each other. And even after 11years of marriage, imagining life without each other is like imagining a world without the sun.
Being a sub for me, and being a Dom for Hubby is deeply rooted in our nature, but we are not a D/s 24/7 couple: D/s is reserved for the bedroom and yet is part of our relationship.
In the last few month, more and more hidden parts of myself have being uleashed, not necessarly related to my being a sub, and the whole impact of it is now starting to take shape. It brought us closer than ever, to talk about things we never dared to talk before, and yet it has also brought us to what I feel is an impass

....the question of who has the right of way is an important one. The Domme/Dom has the right of way. In my way of thinking the only impass that exists, exists because the Domme/Dom allows it to exist. Don't misunderstand me here in thinking I am suggesting the forced approach (see working harder and not smarter above). What I am saying is that if you understand your own motivation and you have a good understanding of what makes your submissive tick, it is within your power to communicate, train, take, or accept.

Communicate - The first thing is to deal with any misconceived or unsubstantiated thoughts that your submissive might be holding on to. This step is the most important because what we believe to be true, will effect what think and feel about things, and what we think and feel about things will ultimately dertermine our actions and behavior. There are two questions that need to be put on the table here and some serious reflection needs to be given to them on behalf of the submissive.

- Is your submission based upon wanting to please the Domme/Dom or yourself?
- Who gets to determine what is pleasing? You or the Domme/Dom?

The answer to the above two questions are obvious, and when presented such, it then allows for opening up of the mind as to what constitutes submission.

This is the core of my struggle now. As a sub I know I should trust my Master to know, and I should just wait and follow. But on the other hand I feel that we need to talk and understand what are each other's expectations. I feel the need to know to be able to really let him have the right of way. I do realize that it is mostly myself that need to think hard and answer the above questions, but because the relationship here is much more complex than just playing a scene, I feel it needs some more soul-searching on both parts.

Anyway thank you for your good wishes! I surely hope to be able to repeat the forced orgasm session in a not too far future!

I do realize that this was probably the wrong thread to post it to, so I apologize in advance.

 

[rida]

Thank you for your kind words, but there are better sources around for techniques on that topic than my quick notes, as well as different styles and methods of reaching that point. Still, my notes may be enough for him to start. If so, well, I'm happy to have been of help!

It is not the tecniques that I found valuable in your post (although they do give some very good ideas), but the way you approached the whole training aspect of it, as part of a relationship, and not just like a mere "pavlovian effect".


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I'm the same way generally. I really need some sort of relationship with a person before I even want to go into the idea of playing with them, either in a D/s setting or vanilla sex. Without connection, there is no significance to the act for me and I will not particularly enjoy it.

I guess this is what made your post stand out. That you do truly care for the other person, beyond the D/s relationship or play.

I feel the same way. I am outgoing and will talk with anybody, and even flirt, but if I do not feel a connection, nothing is going to happen. There is just nothing I will get out of it, and for sexual release ... I can do by myself just fine ...

 

[Homburg]

It is not the tecniques that I found valuable in your post (although they do give some very good ideas), but the way you approached the whole training aspect of it, as part of a relationship, and not just like a mere "pavlovian effect".

Well, okay then =)

Wow, it makes me happy to see somebody say that. It's like Bruce Lee's line about the finger pointing at the moon. You paid attention to the moon. Bravo.

I guess this is what made your post stand out. That you do truly care for the other person, beyond the D/s relationship or play.

I feel the same way. I am outgoing and will talk with anybody, and even flirt, but if I do not feel a connection, nothing is going to happen. There is just nothing I will get out of it, and for sexual release ... I can do by myself just fine ...

Absolutely. As I've said before, a knife and a sun-warmed watermelon can produce a wet, warm hole. It's not going to give me the same thrill as a living, breathing, intelligent woman that I enjoy talking with and have some sort of connection with as well.

There may be something to be said for anonymous casual sex. It's just not going to be said by me =)

 

[xPinkxStarsx]

RJ this sounds just delightful. Thanks for posting this.

Wow that just made me wet as hell!

I havnt had the pleasure of having forced multiple orgasms but it is a fantasy of mine too.

 

[xPinkxStarsx]

Forced orgasm can be one of the most sadistic pleasure that I know. Its all fun and games up to about orgasm 3 or so, but after that, you can begin to see the signs set in....and the begging and pleading begins subtlly....

Please...please...oh gawd......omg! Pleeassseeee.....

"please what my love? hmmmmmmm?" Raises eyebrows amused...

...when every little touch or small tweak of a nipple send after shock orgasm through their body and they shake and quiver...and then they look up and the realization is made that I am using their own pleaure against them...and there is tinge of fear in their eyes as my hands reaches for them again...

"no...I am not remotely through with you yet...."

The point of realization is often the sweetest, because the next forced orgasm is rough and hard with no mercy....and if done just right...That is when the big endorphin rush hits...mentally numb, body buzzing and buzzing and buzzing...

She will begin to slur her words as it becomes an effort to even talk....

its moments like these when my voice and the sadistic whispers I whisper into her ear cause an orgasm to occur....and when it does I use it and feed off of it and build it till she begins to shake violently...as I force yet another one from her tired body....

Here is where you have to be careful....oh yes...cause you can lose them at this point if your not...this is where she wants to give up...or slip into the euphoria of subspace....

that's when I have to grab her by the jaw/throat from up under her chin....

"No....No you don't, where the fuck do you think your going! You get your mind back here right now!....(slap) You hear me?! Wake up!....I am not done with you...Is this all you got to give me? IS IT!....

smiles sadistically as her eyes fly open as she is snapped back to reality...usually pissed at being forced out of subspace....(chuckles)...and then the contest of wills begins anew....and I begin to break her down again....

After this, she is pretty much spent....and it best to begin aftercare...or just lay there next to her with your hand on her to let her know you are there.

I think one of my favoritest moment happens here when she is laying there almost staring up at the ceiling...almost in a catatonic like state...and you can see tears ever so often escape her eyes and run down....as if she is replaying a moment, or she trying to find herself but can't...

Soft words are spoken in these moment. Careful words...words of comfort, and caring nice touches.

I have seen quite a few different reactions happen here...and I have enjoyed each one equally...sometimes she will drift to sleep, sometimes as she begins to resurface her breathing starts to become rapid and qucik...and she will violently erupt from this space almost screaming and I have to hold her tightly as she struggles and then calms down and the tears flow unhinged. Othertimes she will just snuggle up and remain quiet and completely subdued, but content in being so close to me.

Forced orgasms can be and have been for me one of the most sadistic and delicious experiences. I normally won't enter a pussy unless it has cum at least once or twice for me. usually the best is sliding in deep on the second orgasm as it tends to just push that orgasm into double overtime...and call me wierd but I like trying to hold someone down as they are trying to impale them selves on my cock completely out of control.

Wow that just made me wet as hell!

I havnt had the pleasure of having forced orgasms but I would love to more than anything.

 

[Hottscorpio25]

Forced orgasms

I have always been very turned on by this idea. I saw a movie on this and have fantasized about it ever since. The woman was standing with her hands tied behind her back and a spreader bar beween her feet. Her Dom was on his knees behind her and he had a vibrator pressed against her clit. I could tell by the expression on her face( she was wearing a ball gag) that it was extremely intense. Damn i would love to be in that position.

 

[rida]

came across this today and I just couldn't help thinking about this thread ...

your grandmother's vibrator

This is a snipplet from the first slide:

"The use of vulvular massage as a therapy for "hysterical" patients dates back to Hippocrates. During the 19th century, it caught on as a treatment for the rampantly diagnosed afflictions hysteria and neurasthenia. The doctor of Alice James, the sickly sister of the famous Henry and William, probably brought her routinely to "hysterical paroxysm." "

PLY into forced orgasm much? LOL

 

[SLUT13]

hehe well i love to b forced into orgasm...i tend to be cocky and say NO to my partner alot n try n fight him/her off and then i get it twice as hard n more painful..which REEEAAALLLY does it for me, i end up bursting into multiple orgasm..

 

[tammytoodles]

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[amy711]

From my standpoint I think that it would be difficult to force me to have an orgasm. I feel like if I don't make an effort to think about wanting to cum than I won't, so I have to want it I suppose. I think it would be kind of cool to be able to though, although I am still young and still learning to come from no clit stimulation so maybe that will come later.

 

[FurryFury]

From my standpoint I think that it would be difficult to force me to have an orgasm. I feel like if I don't make an effort to think about wanting to cum than I won't, so I have to want it I suppose. I think it would be kind of cool to be able to though, although I am still young and still learning to come from no clit stimulation so maybe that will come later.

So, may I ask, why you are learning to come from no clit stim?

 

[amy711]

More like trying to better enjoy having vibrators and fingers inside me. Right now they are all right but kind of just annoying after awhile. So its not like I don't not like clit stimulation but want to try other pleasurable alternatives.

 

[FurryFury]

More like trying to better enjoy having vibrators and fingers inside me. Right now they are all right but kind of just annoying after awhile. So its not like I don't not like clit stimulation but want to try other pleasurable alternatives.

I gotcha.

I had to stop vibe action for a while just to prove to myself I could without it. But it was vibe on clit not vibe inside. I'm a clit girl.

 

[rida]

I gotcha.

I had to stop vibe action for a while just to prove to myself I could without it. But it was vibe on clit not vibe inside. I'm a clit girl.

Last summer I made it a point to try to orgasm without any clitoral stimulation. It was not easy at first, but combined with kegels it is actually what lead me to learn to have multiples. I've been slacking on the kegels and practice and as a result multiples seems more difficult. Time to start training again

 

[FurryFury]

Last summer I made it a point to try to orgasm without any clitoral stimulation. It was not easy at first, but combined with kegels it is actually what lead me to learn to have multiples. I've been slacking on the kegels and practice and as a result multiples seems more difficult. Time to start training again

Interesting. I'm giving it some thought.

 

[rida]

Interesting. I'm giving it some thought.

Let me know how it works out

 

[FurryFury]

Let me know how it works out

*wink*

Don't I always?

 

[Anne_Prospere]

please. not happening. Ive got my o's on LOCK.

i can only cum in secret dark private corners.

 

[desertslave]

My Master alternates between denial and overabundance of orgasms. I'm not sure which is worse!

Thanks to a lot of sensory training from my first Sir, I'm very multiorgasmic, and can be so from a variety of...stimuli. My most intense orgasms are probably from clit or G-spot, but anal, vaginal and nipples are entirely possible sources, as well as a serious back or ass flogging/caning. Master takes ruthless advantage of this. He knows me entirely too well, and loves to push me far beyond what I think I can endure, often drawing four or more orgasms out of me after I'm sure I can't cum again.

He's evil, exhausting, and I adore him.

P.S. Call me weird, but I can't stand vibes. They're okay for less than a minute, then they just annoy the crap outta me.

 

[coatcheckgirl]

OMG.. i'm hot just reading about it!

thank you RJ

 

[kryslez]

Oh yes .... on more than one occassion .... and it seems the harder I try to resist, the more turned on I become. Go figure?

Ah, but isn't that the fun of it?

 

[cloud_leopard]

Bump for this thread, cause I like it.

I don't have anything to add...........yet...

 

[PatchIsMe]

Loved reading this thread. just waiting for my baby to be born before we try this out ! I get so excited thinking about it!!

 

[EvelynTreemont]

My most meaningful sexual experience came from the realm of the 'forced orgasm'. I have always had intense trust issues, always believing that people were out to hurt me, that no man was ever going to be really in love with me, or even care about me etc. etc. I am by no means a traditional sub or slave nor do I consider myself in that 'scene' as a rule. I tried it, but deep down it just wasn't for me. But I do, however, love a lot of aspects of BDSM sex. But I have digressed.

I got into being 'forced' because I was in a relationship where the emotional walls I had up were getting in the way of a lot of things, though I cared deeply for my partner. I had been treated poorly in the past, and wasn't looking into getting wounded again. One night while we were in bed my partner grabbed my wrists and began tying them to the headboard. I protested (naturally) and he looked at me and said "This is important. Trust me." That was the first time he really ever 'took me' completely. No matter what I said, how I argued, scoffed, bargained, or begged, he did exactly as he pleased. It involved toys, ice cubes, and feathers (we discovered that my body walks a very thin line between 'tickled' and 'mind blowing orgasm'). I finally really just let go, simply because I had no choice. I was both humiliating (which became a slight fetish of mine, if I can call it that) and liberating at the same time. He didn't like calling me slave or slut or whatever (we grew to enjoy playing with dirty names), so he settled on the name "Kitten". He would drop his voice to a silky whisper near my ear and say things like "How does that feel, Kitten? Do you like the way I'm playing with your nipple?" Whenever we talk now (we live far away and have parted ways romantically) sometimes he still greets me that way and it always has me wondering about airfares.

In short, what meant a lot about this experience for me wasn't about being controlled, or owned, or even about the pain of nipple clips (I have come to love them), but it was about the implicit trust. He made my body do things I didn't know it could. The experience also quited my fears and hangups and allowed me to really just let go and enjoy really being with my partner. I came in ways I had never come before, and the experience made us partners in a way we had never been before.

Also, not gonna lie, our sex life -exploded- after we found this new element. We both love to tease, so it really, really worked for us. It's opened a whole new world of experiences for me, and still remains the one thing that gets me wet the second I think of it. Which means that this thread is definitely bookmarked.

<3 Ev.

 

[ataxia.girl]

please. not happening. Ive got my o's on LOCK.

i can only cum in secret dark private corners.

*sigh* me too...

why does everyone want to watch anyway?