Golden Showers

[WillowPuss]

It was this description, posted on another thread, that got Robuck thinking.

We are away for the night Tuesday ... alone (for once), and I have a feeling that perhaps, maybe ....



If I have anything to report I will let you know on Thursday

 

[cymbidia]

Who is into golden showers? Do you, as a sub, actually drink the pee, or as a Dom/me require your subs to do so?

I've been on both sides of the flow a bunch of times. While i don't rate this kind of play a "5" on the checklists, it's definitely in the 3 range for me.

Everything, always, forever, depends on my dominant, though. As the sub partner, i reflect and magnify the excitment he feels and the eroticism he spends on me. If this is something he finds enormously exciting, then i'll find it so, too. If it's a "not-interested" area, then i'll put it aside (for awhile).

When playing in this way, pee happens. By that i mean that pee sometimes splashes in one's mouth. I don't seek out opportunities to swallow piss and don't get wet from imaging the possibility (swallowing pee is something that just takes a part of a second, by the way) but it's not something i try to avoid, either. If it happens, i deal with it. If it doesn't so much the better.

The forbidden and nasty designators that highlight this kinda play make it all the more fascinating to me. I like really perverted stuff.

 

[petrel]

We do this sometimes - its a turn-on for him but not especially for me. One time however in the middle of pretty hot and heavy play blindfolded crouched on all fours and desperate to relieve my bladder he made me drink more water and then suck him - he peed on me and then ordered me to pee, that humiliation of being commanded to do something so intimate and the position I was in - totally without though of how I looked, of remaining elegant and in control I let go - and letting go of my bladder let go of my last inhibitions, I ended the night a whimpering sobbing cum, lube and piss splattered wreck on the floor (but very happy) it was my most intense BDSM experience yet. And probably the time I really realised what the difference between kinky sex [fantasising about BDSM practises and 'playing' (no disrespect intended) at sub/dom behaviour] and the real thing - I know many people have argued the case that saying there is a difference is elitist but - well there just is. when I enjoyed kinky sex I might pretend to be submissive for the additional thrill but I never actually gave up control - never did things that didn't excite me or please me. Watersports is a prime example of how I have begun to truly explore my submissive side.

 

[CarolineOh]

Oh my. Cym and Petrel, your eloquent descriptions have made me consider exploration in this area in a new light.
Moments like this are when I am feel so deeply grateful for what we have here on this forum. Thanks you.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Oh my. Cym and Petrel, your eloquent descriptions have made me consider exploration in this area in a new light.
Moments like this are when I am feel so deeply grateful for what we have here on this forum. Thanks you.

It is really fun and hot, Caroline, but I reserve it's use for special subs in my life.

Ebony

 

[cymbidia]

So, can someone clue me in--what's the appeal, from either side? Is it just and only a way to create extreme humiliation of the sub/bottom or is there something more--something specific to urination that makes it preferable to any of the millions of other ways to humiliate a person?

Okay, for me, it has nothing at all to do with humiliation and everything to do with the forbidden and the perverted and the illicit - and the intimacy to do that kinda nastiness with someone who's getting off on it just like me.

Piss play is most assuredly not about humiliation for me. I don't do humiliation. I detest it. Humiliation beyond saying nasty words during hard play can pt me into a bad headspace, one that can make me call out a yellow on emotional discomfort grounds.

This kinda play is a growing-closer sort of thing in virtually all cases. It's a thing of intense intimacy, something we do behind closed doors knowing we're doing something kinda edgy, but not the kind of edgy that leaves marks.

It has to be with the right person, of course, like everything we do as perverts. Shared headspace around this kinda play is all-important.

But - it's fun. It's freeing. It's kinda giggly later, too, the kind of giggling you did as kids when you got away with something...

 

[BBD]

It has to be with the right person, of course, like everything we do as perverts. Shared headspace around this kinda play is all-important.

That's where I'm at.

I've done it on occasion. Normally, the thought of it really isn't that big a thrill to me. But...there are times, with the right person, that it's a huge rush.

I don't want to piss on every woman I see, but I do enjoy having that option...and above all knowing I have that option...with certain ones.

 

[PlayDoe]

endurance

I wouldn't get an actual turn on from the feeling or anything like that. From a submissive point of view, I see it as being a turn on if it is presented as a challenge of how much a sub is willing to endure for a dom.

 

[MzChrista]

Re: endurance

I wouldn't get an actual turn on from the feeling or anything like that. From a submissive point of view, I see it as being a turn on if it is presented as a challenge of how much a sub is willing to endure for a dom.

Thats how lots of sub men see it. They dont want the piss so much as to show how much they will take.

 

[MotorCitySam]

This would be a limit for me, even if Caroline desired it. I respect the various views presented here, but in my own mind, I would not be able to escape the feeling I was degrading her.

 

[triman AZ]

I agree with "forbidden and the perverted and the illicit "- for me that's the most powerful part and the most arousing. knowing i am willing to do something most people, even on this board (which probably has more perverts per acre than the general population) find a little far out.

Seeing how far i can take my limits is there too, but I already know i will do it <grin>.

From a different side, I like to make a woman do it, make her wait and wait, make her talk about it, how bad she has to pee, then make her go in her panties, that's a power and humiliation turn on for me... to make her shame herself. I love the look of the wet spot growing, the sound, the look as she completely lets go.

 

[Pure]

Golden Moments.

Some of the delights of s/m for the 'switch' or 'sub' male lie in the role reversal; in certain parallels with 'normal' practices; equations which the unconscious may make.


A few years back, and still, in parts of vanilla-la-land, the question to the woman was 'do you swallow?' and the macho man, as a matter of principle demanded it. This fluid was the issue from his sceptre, an intended object of reverence.
(Now the 'swallow' question doesn't come up much among porn jaded sophisticates. Taste, except, maybe, of smokers, was never the issue, anyway: Rather it was, is she degraded? Is the bodily fluid inherently disgusting?)

Let's now take the Mistress as an embodiment of erotic power. The slave is humbled before her. She's proud of her pussy, believes it beautiful; demands he worship it, which is to say, express the reverence for it that he has come to feel. Its power is evident in the erections he can't control when she exposes just a bit of it, or lets him smell its essence on her fingers and plead for a little more.

Before this captivating cunt, this salacious slit, he's directed to masturbate and spill his seed on his belly, far from It. Other times he's asked to show his devotion to it and not presume to approach close; he's merely given the damp panties to smell, to excite himself in her pitying view.

She says, "If you're devoted to my cunt, you must be devoted to its issue."
"Yes."
"I'm going to piss into this glass and you will drink it."
The utter and brash perversity takes hold of him, arouses him. He is aware of the utter degradation that might be seen by some, but it's a holy and almost ultimate subjection. The glass is warm to his hand, he smells the forbidden aroma, the pungency. He drinks and his eyes meets hers--only most briefly, as allowed--and he's awash in their passion and power, in the exaltation of her dominance. Like whiskey, it burns his throat.

A little later, she orders the ultimate gesture. His heart is thumping as he lies down, head propped up, for her to squat above him.
"You may suck my pussy, but only as I piss. The piss from it--and that only-- is for you."
As she nears, he inhales the fragrance, feels fear and thrill. His lips will be there for a few seconds, in an ultimate intimacy, yet he is totally subordinated; he can't help thinking of the cock sucking he used to demand of women. The supporting floor seems to give way beneath him.

The touch of lower lips to his, the first tangy drops. He presses against this cunt, the perverse kiss allowed to for a few moments to receive the scalding flood, which he has not time to consider, to taste, but only to gulp repeatedly during the extended spurting, till the pulsing current ebbs, stops, and she dismounts. She wipes herself-- and allows him to wipe his face before masturbating before the goddess. She smiles. "I may permit you to honor me again in the future, if you continue to obey."

Belly full of the warmth of her, his mind is already running ahead.

===***===

 

[artful]

Pure

Golden Moments.

You DO realise with that post,...your *Golden Moment* raised you to experienced,...now out of virgin status,...what's your next venture ?

BTW: "CONGRATULATIONS"

P.S.~Have you been tutored by Shadowsdream, in presenting your experiences with such a unique form of clarity and style ?

 

[artful]

Sam

This would be a limit for me, even if Caroline desired it. I respect the various views presented here, but in my own mind, I would not be able to escape the feeling I was degrading her.

I hear you,...and must admit, for many years I saw participating in SOME type of "Golden Moment" act,
to be ONLY as degrading, an act of humiliation, etc.

My pre-conceived, (environmentally induced),
thoughts up until just the other day, were always,
..."Man,...WHAT,...in the hell can ANYONE possibly get out of doing THAT?"

This thread, particularly cellis' and ltr's post set me to re-thinking my aversion to to it. Add in here somewhere, a dash of EB's post, and a snip of MzC,(I always read their posts).

Along with a good sized portion of cym's post, a pinch of MsW, a couple of side dishes of Chele and thedirtypoet, opened my eyes a bit further. With Pure's most recent post, being the dessert, as descriptive as cym's, I feel I have gained much insight.

Not only to the practice,...but also how my mind was CLOSED to certain "things", I really had no understanding of. Am I lusting for the opportunity to do some experimentation with water sports? No,...but I no longer have an aversion to it. Thank you all for your contributions.

EDITED to add: A ladle of Petrel!

 

[Lancecastor]

Every time I see the title of this thread...

...I start to sing "Golden Slumbers" by the Beatles.

Wierd.

Lance

 

[WillowPuss]

Robuck and I tried this recently ... and I couldn't perform.

I needed to go
I wanted to go


it just wouldn't flow

(And I didn't actually mean that to rhyme! lol)


Ohh well, here's to the next time we are away - alone.

 

["angel" eve]

i just don't feel the need

golden showers are on my list of hard limits. and also on my girl's.

it has been there since i started to question what i would do, how far would i go... since i took interest in BDSM. i'd heard of it before i took an interest and i'm sure the reaction was a turned up nose, a look of fear, and shaking my hands and wrists wildly in front of me in a gesture meaning: no, hell no, not on my life, no eeeew no!, noooooo way!!!! never!

at that point i couldn't respect it as something anyone but the seriously fuct up would be interested in. and by seriously fuct up i mean the same kind of ppl who feel the need to rape children.

i've expaned my views. i can now respect the feelings of illicit, erotcic, trust and submission that it might entail for some. but i'm not a part of that some who fanticises about it.


i prefer to cum all over my partners tummy, letting it pool in their navel , the warm wet feeling of my arousal dripping down their skin. reminding them that i do not need them to make me come, i can enjoy that pleasure on my own. it is a gift that i allow my partner to bring me to orgasm. i haven't met a partner (male or female) who hasen't enjoyed it.


this is my thought.

 

[SierraMoon]

i have just recently taken part in a "golden shower".. it didn't do much for me at all.... i'm a hygiene fanatic, and i had to shower right away, afterwards.... even after that, i didn't feel clean, for like 2 days afterwards..... don't think i'll be participating in it again, for awhile atleast.....
just my 2cents....

 

[zipman]

Not sure

For some reason, I find watching a woman pee to be extremely erotic!!! However, I have never given or received a GS. Perhaps in this one area, I am more voyeuristic than participative.

By the way, there is a great thread of pee pics on the amatuer pics forum.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Re: Not sure

For some reason, I find watching a woman pee to be extremely erotic!!! However, I have never given or received a GS. Perhaps in this one area, I am more voyeuristic than participative.

By the way, there is a great thread of pee pics on the amatuer pics forum.


I have known a few men who feel as you do, Mr.Zippy. And like you, they like the watching part. One especially liked watching me squat outside. I wonder if it's a submissive posture (of squatting) that some of you like? What do you think?

 

[artful]

Re: Re: Not sure

For some reason, I find watching a woman pee to be extremely erotic!!! However, I have never given or received a GS. Perhaps in this one area, I am more voyeuristic than participative.

By the way, there is a great thread of pee pics on the amatuer pics forum.


I have known a few men who feel as you do, Mr.Zippy. And like you, they like the watching part. One especially liked watching me squat outside. I wonder if it's a submissive posture (of squatting) that some of you like? What do you think?

Oh yes,...the squatting and the stream, are VERY erotic to ME. Somehow,...I had always considered the act to be more VOYEURISTIC than anything else.

YES,...SQUAT NOW !

 

[A Desert Rose]

Re: Re: Re: Not sure

YES,...SQUAT NOW !




Bet you are saying that in a real commanding voice too, Art.

 

[zipman]

Re: Re: Not sure

For some reason, I find watching a woman pee to be extremely erotic!!! However, I have never given or received a GS. Perhaps in this one area, I am more voyeuristic than participative.

By the way, there is a great thread of pee pics on the amatuer pics forum.


I have known a few men who feel as you do, Mr.Zippy. And like you, they like the watching part. One especially liked watching me squat outside. I wonder if it's a submissive posture (of squatting) that some of you like? What do you think?

I think that the posture is submissive, but more than that, it is such a private thing. I think that we are conditioned to hide these things (going to the bathroom) so watching it becomes a very erotic act in that it is almost taboo.

And as Art said (the stream is very erotic). I also think that it is very different for men and women.

 

[A Desert Rose]

TABOO yes....

I think you really have tapped into it, Mr.Zippy. I think, for many men, that is what the real eroticism is- the forbidden aspect of it. Personally, I find it neither erotic nor disdainful to watch a man pee. (Maybe it's the old nurse in me- I emptied a few urinals in my time. LOL)

 

[lady_deanna]

I have never experienced or provided a shower, and don't think that I would be able to do that, but there are related actions that I find to be a turn-on...

One ex bf would let me hold his dick while he peed...

Or, he always had to pee after he came, but I loved to continue playing with him because he would be sooooo sensitive. Many times I continued to jerk him off after sex until he would release the contents of his bladder.

I agree with all of you who mentioned that a full bladder is a turn on... for me it is nearly orgasmic at times!

I remember when I was younger that I was reading through one of my dad's porn mags (he obviously didn't know) and there was this story about a woman who made a guy drink loads of water and then would make him hold his bladder while she would use ice torture on him...