Heroes & Villains

[rosco rathbone]

I would say I am the black knight. Oral legend has it there was a black knight in my family a few generations back, or more precisely a schwarzer ritter. As cool as that may be, in reality black knights where much like the Japanese ronin, basically wanderers. Yet I think if he did exist, he deserves some credit for renouncing the teutonic order, those are not guys you want to fuck around with.

Anyway, black knight it is, riding around all romantic like, kidnapping hot yet humble millers daughters. … actually there is another legend… ahh this could continue forever, there are so many legends from my place of origin I best just not mention them…

So I think I lean towards the villain, although I don’t do anything evil just for the sake of evil, and I am pretty nice too I think. I think I am only the villain though because society says I am, I do what I like, is that really so bad?

Couple generations??? What is this, 1208??

If you think you are a villain, you are a villain.

Black knights are cool.

 

[intothewoods]

The consensus seems to be that balance is key, that too much of one or the other makes the man insipid or annoying, etc etc.

Also, there are many who hate the idea of labels. (I'm one of them!).


Still, no fence sitting. Have the balls to declare which side you identify with in your heart.

People into alternative lifestyles don't want to be labeled? I'm shocked. Shocked, I say!

Maybe the better question is, would you rather play - the hero or the villian? For me, that's an easy question. Villian, of course!

 

[JMohegan]

I was raised to be a man of honor, as defined in part by my father and in part by my college coach. I've got a very clear idea of what that means, and this is the type of person whom I have always tried to be.

But that doesn't have anything to do with my sexual preference or role in personal relationships, at least not in the way you describe in the opening post. I've never embraced the role of BDSM therapist, father figure to a mate, or the guiding, nurturing, leading her through life by the hand, style of kink.

Yet I don't see myself as the villain you've described, either. I'm far from an edge player and totally uninterested in degradation. Animalistic, sure, but so are a lot of guys.... even non-kinky ones. Sexuality rooted in an innate sense of male entitlement and aggression, absolutely, but again - I know a lot of guys like that.

In the context of personal relationships, I'm just a guy with control issues, really. That's about it. Even my sadism is control-based, more than anything else.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I was raised to be a man of honor, as defined in part by my father and in part by my college coach. I've got a very clear idea of what that means, and this is the type of person whom I have always tried to be.

But that doesn't have anything to do with my sexual preference or role in personal relationships, at least not in the way you describe in the opening post. I've never embraced the role of BDSM therapist, father figure to a mate, or the guiding, nurturing, leading her through life by the hand, style of kink.

Yet I don't see myself as the villain you've described, either. I'm far from an edge player and totally uninterested in degradation. Animalistic, sure, but so are a lot of guys.... even non-kinky ones. Sexuality rooted in an innate sense of male entitlement and aggression, absolutely, but again - I know a lot of guys like that.

In the context of personal relationships, I'm just a guy with control issues, really. That's about it. Even my sadism is control-based, more than anything else.

Eh, stop shooting down my polarizing thread with reason & clarity.

I vibe you as hero and hero you shall be.

 

[JMohegan]

Eh, stop shooting down my polarizing thread with reason & clarity.

I vibe you as hero and hero you shall be.

Ha ha - fair enough! It's your thread.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Eh, stop shooting down my polarizing thread with reason & clarity.

I vibe you as hero and hero you shall be.

I like villains, who to me are actually heros.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I like villains, who to me are actually heros.

No shit kaycee. You should have a gigantic Vee branded on your asscheek.

 

[Kajira Callista]

No shit kaycee. You should have a gigantic Vee branded on your asscheek.

You wanna do it for me uncle rosco? *bats lashes*

 

[rosco rathbone]

Ha ha - fair enough! It's your thread.

Actually, the motivation for this thread was the feeling that others might have the same instant identification with one or the other that I do. It's interesting to see how far off the mark I am.

 

[intothewoods]

Eh, stop shooting down my polarizing thread with reason & clarity.

I vibe you as hero and hero you shall be.

Honestly, I'm also tired of the whole hetero pimp super rapist treat her like a cum receptacle cuz she likes it persona. My initial attraction to bdsm was the taboo of being treated like less than, since I was raised to be a feminist. But that's the difference between a hot fantasy and everyday relationship dynamics. If you need every minute of every day to be a gang rape scene, you're overcompensating.

 

[Homburg]

The consensus seems to be that balance is key, that too much of one or the other makes the man insipid or annoying, etc etc.

Also, there are many who hate the idea of labels. (I'm one of them!).


Still, no fence sitting. Have the balls to declare which side you identify with in your heart.

Beast I am, and Beast shall I be.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Honestly, I'm also tired of the whole hetero pimp super rapist treat her like a cum receptacle cuz she likes it persona. My initial attraction to bdsm was the taboo of being treated like less than, since I was raised to be a feminist. But that's the difference between a hot fantasy and everyday relationship dynamics. If you need every minute of every day to be a gang rape scene, you're overcompensating.

Interesting. I was also raised a feminist, and that was my initial attraction as well.

 

[00Syd]

Still voting for Beast. Yep. mm.

(Throw off that shining armor, heroes! Get rid of that black coat, villains! Lets see that hairy chest!)

 

[rosco rathbone]

Still voting for Beast. Yep. mm.

(Throw off that shining armor, heroes! Get rid of that black coat, villains! Lets see that hairy chest!)

Black coat.


Black hat.


Cheap black sneakers.



The villains are jews!

 

[intothewoods]

Black coat.


Black hat.


Cheap black sneakers.



The villains are jews!

Whatever, my sneakers are expensive!

 

[JMohegan]

Actually, the motivation for this thread was the feeling that others might have the same instant identification with one or the other that I do. It's interesting to see how far off the mark I am.

If it makes you feel any better, if you had asked: "Do you consider yourself to be one of the good guys, or for the most part a nefarious character?" (without the accompanying BDSM commentary and relationship tie-ins), I would have answered the former right away.

 

[00Syd]

Black coat.


Black hat.


Cheap black sneakers.



The villains are jews!

They just need one of those twisty mustaches...

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[rosco rathbone]

I associate the Villain with the underdog. He always goes down in the last reel.

Our American culture fetishizes the maverick, the biker, the smart-ass, bad-ass type. Bruce Willis. Someone who laughs in the face of authority. That's not really what I have in mind when I think of the Villain. That's more a direct lineage from John Wayne; who is an indomitable asshole but always does the right thing in the end.

 

[Kajira Callista]

I associate the Villain with the underdog. He always goes down in the last reel.

Our American culture fetishizes the maverick, the biker, the smart-ass, bad-ass type. Bruce Willis. Someone who laughs in the face of authority. That's not really what I have in mind when I think of the Villain. That's more a direct lineage from John Wayne; who is an indomitable asshole but always does the right thing in the end.

*sigh* my hero

 

[BiBunny]

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm like the person in a murder mystery that the others always think is the villain, but I turn out not to be the killer (and maybe somewhat of a hero) in the end. What's the proper name for that person, if there is one?

 

[Homburg]

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm like the person in a murder mystery that the others always think is the villain, but I turn out not to be the killer (and maybe somewhat of a hero) in the end. What's the proper name for that person, if there is one?

"Red herring"

 

[BiBunny]

"Red herring"

*Snort*

Yeah, that's me, all right. The red herring.

 

[Netzach]

This is so interesting it's giving me a headache.

The one person I respond to as top is certainly a white hat - a kinky, queer, hedonisitc fucker, but definitely a white hat.

 

[YourCaptor]

Couple generations??? What is this, 1208??

If you think you are a villain, you are a villain.

Black knights are cool.

Wait a minute I just remembered he was a raubritter, which translates too... umm, a knight who commits robbery. So I think that would also mean he was a black knight... I'm not sure.

Anyway, I think he would have lived during the 15th century.

 

[ataxia.girl]

i sometimes like the idea of being rescued by a hero but its the very bad bad men that make me wet. i feel too guilty confusing and confounding a hero. i also agree that the super bad persona has gotten old. Where are the creative selfish bastards?