How do i get my mom to want to have sec with me and make her think it's her idea?

An actual argument about incest? Oh... this is getting interesting.
I'm not sure exactly where I stand, I used to be naive and rebellious, and think hey, as long as no one gets hurt what's wrong with a bro and sis swapping a little spit... but then I went through some psychological effects, and realized that nothing good ever came out of incest.
So, I'm still on the fence about all of it.
Yes, in truth there are cultures that have accepted, and even indulged in incest, the egyptians are a great example. They would have children marry each other so that the riches and power stayed in the family.
In that same breath, society in general never looked up at incest very well. Even now there are laws preventing anyone close enough in the family to have sex with each other. Jerry Lee Lewis married his cousin, and was shunned from the spotlight ever since.

So, how should one go about this? Should they just accept societies moral rules, and say "down with incest" or should they let certain people indulge in their own fantasies, and just hope they don't have children?
I've never been one to just go with the flow... actually I try to stop the flow as much as possible. So, I'm saying think about it for yourself. Incest, does it really hurt anyone? Is it as bad as it claims to be? Are there certain instances where it's ok? Hell... is there even a line where incest is drawn? Siblings? Cousins? Seconds cousins? third, fourth, and so on...

I do think there are certain things that are just wrong in general. Parent incest for example... any incest where one partner is twice the other's age. Incest that deals with underaged children (obviously, since this is considered molestation, and is just plain wrong period!) Incest where one person is, or was a father figure. Like a step father who's been married to the mother for about ten years. Things like that.
Cousins? I'm still going to have to say no. I just think of picking up your date, and seeing your uncle there, looking out the window of his double wide motor home with his shotgun, missing teeth, and his bloodhound waiting for you to come back.
Never a good sight.
Second cousins? That's a little better, there's some distance in blood. The gene pool has been mixed a little bit, and at least things won't be as complicated. In this day an age, second cousins are rarely seen anyway. Maybe once a few years during some huge family reunion. So, you may not have ever seen them before.
As it goes down and down the family tree, things start evening out more and more. I bet, if you look back, many people whom you walk around every day are distant relatives. There weren't that many people around 500 years ago, it was only recently that the population grew exponentially.

The first person you love is your mother. Keep it platonic, ok?
There are hundreds of men and women, all of them who don't get the same invitation to the family reunions as you do. I'd say, as a general rule, just don't go for the incest thing. If, by some chance, love strikes a bell, and there's nothing either of you can do about it... then just make sure in about three months she doesn't start working at a strip club, and gets a butch girlfriend named Frank.
Cause... then I'll be seeing your ass on Jerry, and laughing at you all the live long time. lol...
 
Good Comment!

Poohlive,

Great comment. Incest certainly is an argumentative subject.

The next stage is to hear first hand accounts of real life experiences, both good and bad.
 
You guys have it all wrong........

Get ride of the body and bones at the same time.

First you need to cut the body up into small enough pieces in order to fit into your largest pan. Hopefully you have more than one or this process will take all night.... unless you have a very large kettle. Cover all meat with water....... add a pinch of salt. Boil until tender

Go to the nearest grocery store and buy ~I'd say 6 to 10 economy sized bottles of BBQ sauce.

Turn oven to 350 and cook until golden brown..

ALthough Thanksgiven has pasted, Christmas is on the way. Invite all your relatives to a Christmas BBQ~~~ If you can wait, the 4th of July is a better time for BBQ.

Bon appetite~~~~~~~~ Sounds like your family is already fucked up
 
The origin of this thread was either written to get an angry response, or it was written by someone who has not fully thought out the consequences of such an act.

I am a victim of incest. It has taken years of work for me to find some level of peace with that fact. I know i have been altered in many ways. Certainly sexually. My self image is a fragile thing at best and i find knowing that fact does not help. I spent years hating the person who did that to me. In fact, on dark nights in lonely moments i still rage against him in my soul.

While i am not offended by this thread, i did find myself squirming in my seat as i read it. Yet, here i am at the end of thread adding another useless comment. If, however, the person that started this was at all serious i feel i must say to him, "get some fucking help!"
 
sarah555 said:

I am a victim of incest. It has taken years of work for me to find some level of peace with that fact. I know i have been altered in many ways. Certainly sexually. My self image is a fragile thing at best and i find knowing that fact does not help. I spent years hating the person who did that to me. In fact, on dark nights in lonely moments i still rage against him in my soul.

While i am not offended by this thread, i did find myself squirming in my seat as i read it. Yet, here i am at the end of thread adding another useless comment. If, however, the person that started this was at all serious i feel i must say to him, "get some fucking help!"

Sorry to hear that a beautiful girl like you suffered from this awful trauma. I can't relate to anyone who takes advantage of someone close and with whom they have some power over. That, to me, is RAPE. I truly believe that anyone who would do such a thing deserves to be locked up away from society for life! DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I remember

When I was about 15 years old I had a thing for my
second cousin April.Long black hair,nice breast to be
only 14 and the sexist damn feet I had ever seen.I
masterbated countless times thinking about sucking
her tits and rubbing my dick all over those beautiful
little feet of hers.

But it stoped when I was 17.I never even mentioned
this to anyone and no longer have any desire to do
such a thing.Alot of us have fanasies when we are
kids,but I'm glad this went away as I got older.YOu
couldn't pay me to have sex with a family member.But
to each his own=)
 
My suggestion:

Make up a incest story and leave it out for her to see. Not specifically from your writings, but get some from others.

It would be thought provoking.
 
i have an idea..Step one buy a gun step two put it to your head step three squeeze real hard..if that dont work then i guess the shrink think might help
 
Just an opinion but i think this was posted by someone who is really in trouble mentally, or someone looking to get as many responses as they could.

If it is the case that you are in trouble mentally then i suggest that you seek help. It is sad that you could think this way about your mother and it is truely unheathy. I am a mom and if my son approached me with such an idea i would first drop be shocked and then intensely worried about him. I am also certain i would feel intense guilt.

If this was posted to get a reaction I guess you could say you got it. YAY for you.
 
Ok from a victims point of view maybe it can help. I was raped by 2 different family members at different times in my life. The first happening when I was a young girl of 8 and the experience lef tme feeling very strange not having learned it was wrong yet and being told it was ok. The second happened when I was 12 and the feelings were devestating to me. I tried to commit suisde from it because all I could think about was what did I do wrong that I would be hurt by someone I love like this. I has taken me a lot of years and therepy yo come to terms with it and I still have some problems to this day that therepy can't help with. But I also remember exploring with my cousin when we played doctor when we were little and that didn't leave a scar as the other two did. I think seciety does play a big role in how things are percieved. The two bad experiences for me was without consent and was hurtful and not tender as the exploring of the doctor stage was. Life will never be fair enough to make sure this will never happen to any other child but I can say it had better not happen to my own children or I will be on death row no questions asked none given.
 
poohlive said:
Easy as falling off a log.

I don't know what scares me more:

a) Your limitless potential for blatant sarcasm.
b) The fact that this wacko might very well take you seriously.

I think "b", but I'm still not sure. ;)
 
It's all so simple.

Just pretend that you're me. Your mother loves me.

At least that's what she told me last night.
 
Shrink.


This is just stupid. Are you posting this just cause your sick and twisted? If so see the above advice.

Do you believe in God? He frowns upon this sort of thing. You'll burn in Hell forever if you don't get some serious help soon.
 
Limitless potential for blatant sarcasm. Mmmmm, I like that. Sort of like something I should put on my calling card. Hee hee, thank you very much. I do aim to please... lol.

Ok, I knew it wouldn't be long before God got involved in this. I bet he does frown upon this sort of thing, but I doubt he's sitting up there smiling each time you have a sexual encounter with someone else.
If anyone could honestly say that they would go to heaven, with no doubt in their mind whatsoever about their wholesome sex life, knowing that God is all powerful and sees (and hears, lol) anything and everything, let them preach now.
(silence)
Yeah, I thought not.
Hell, he doesn't even have to sneak into the bedroom, sooner or later you're calling his name.
Oh God!! OH GOD!!! OOOHHHH GGGOOOOODDDDDD!!!!!!!
(blatant sarcasm... I know, I know)
Any other deities you want to get involved in this? Allah, Vishnu? The ying, or the yang?
Nah, don't worry, I'm just pulling your yang.
 
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poohlive said:

Ok, I knew it wouldn't be long before God got involved in this. I bet he does frown upon this sort of thing, but I doubt he's sitting up there smiling each time you have a sexual encounter with someone else.

*laughing*....

You know, I've made it so very obvious that I'm completely against incest in any form, but I do have to say that I agree with you... I seriously doubt that the big guy upstairs is grinning down on us every time we do the boody bump! *still laughing* (If we brought religion into every sexual thing we did, then I'm sure most of us wouldn't be here posting at Lit! :D)

~~Mystic
 
here is the problem.... I read this whole thread. I am now dumder for having done this. And this is 2 min. that I will never get back. You owe me!!!

I am looking to collect.:confused: :mad:
 
Eugene? Whoah... a local.
(waving) Hi!
I'm sorry it was such a waste of time. I tried to make it, if nothing else, comical. You know, something you could sort of laugh and and then sigh.
Muttering under your breath, "That's sad."
Then, move on with your life, never thinking about it again.
It's one of those kind's of threads.
 
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