Let's hear it for the boys - Gentle FemDom in pics

[Wild_Honey_66]

i could no more associate myself with that than a picture of an airplane. Or a firearm.

but like i said; it's not about me.

I'm sorry i gave you the impression that you offended me. It's a pretty picture.

I guess it just feels like a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶ (common) male submission is not popular lately. with very few exceptions; Non-firefighters need not apply.

from

http://secrets.malesubmissionart.com/

And as i mentioned before, even in the apparently extremely unlikely chance that someone wanted to put a leash on me, i couldn't allow it, for reasons of health, marriage, and lack of trust.

I just need to rebury the bitter repressed switch and go back to calling myself abstinent for the season, as though it were by choice.

A rather disturbing fever dream brought all this up last week. The self loathing has been simmering ever since.

(((Stag)))

I was just saying to someone () that I have a hard time with the Tumblr pics because they so often depict a style that is far from my own. Or what I think would be my style if I got a chance irl. And I don't look ANYTHING like those women. NOTHING. I'm middle-aged and I've had babies. But I have a much better sense of myself and my appeal and the importance of mental and emotional chemistry than I did when I was younger, and I think that counts for something.

I try not to focus on my body issues because I like to think that I have enough to offer beyond my body that my shape and size wouldn't prevent a partner from enjoying their time with me. I'm sure that's true of you, too.

 

[lakesailer_mi]

I think Stag is making some great points in a very general sense.
And Honey echos it: so much of the visual erotica is focused on "model beautiful" people.

I would offer, Stag, that this is not merely a problem in the femdom arena. I suspect if you took a poll of women on Lit they would give you an earful.
Most of them don't look like the models that are so often depicted in so many of the pic threads.

It's nice that Honey and others have put up threads (see Honey's "chubby tummies of Lit") where that's not true.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

I think Stag is making some great points in a very general sense.
And Honey echos it: so much of the visual erotica is focused on "model beautiful" people.

I would offer, Stag, that this is not merely a problem in the femdom arena. I suspect if you took a poll of women on Lit they would give you an earful.
Most of them don't look like the models that are so often depicted in so many of the pic threads.

It's nice that Honey and others have put up threads (see Honey's "chubby tummies of Lit") where that's not true.

Yay! Discussion!

I'm going to hunt down a pic of real me eek because I like to put my muffin top where my mouth is.

Keep your eye on the av...

 

[lakesailer_mi]

Fair enough. I have read that very "earful" no few times over the years. I think i may be the only male who posits the counterpart every now and then. In theory it deserves it's own thread. In practice there's not really much fuel there. myself and others highjack whatever thread it's relevant to for a couple posts and burn out what little fuel is actually there pretty fast. It's just a mini-rant/ vent, I don't actually expect change of any sort.

please. back to your tied up servicemen. its ok.

And I appreciate you making the point! I started by saying that.
I think another point you're making (and if I'm wrong, I apologize, I do not mean to put words in your mouth), is that while society does seem to be beginning to recognize the impact that this has on women, the same cannot be said for men.

Stag: I want to make this clear. I VERY MUCH agree with you, and I am GRATEFUL that you are making this point.

not your first pic of your RL body, but that seems like a decidedly unflattering angle.

I appreciate the sentiment. Thank you.

Perhaps it's unflattering, but I will tell you this: If I ever had the opportunity to see that view in real life? I would consider it an honor. A privileged. Extremely arousing.

 

[cookiecat]

Hey Stag - although totally different reasons, I understand when images become to hard to look at. I have difficulty going in to oral or control. It brings up sad memories. But I feel manic with that, too -- I'll post furiously for a day because I get caught up in those memories.

As to body image issues -- it's such a sad, paralyzing thing. How often, in my past, thinking I wasn't good enough to be naked and let go and enjoy. The meme you posted - if I don't think I'm good enough - how could she? Yup. That. And yet, when a guy stood before me with a hard cock, because I *was* naked - why couldn't I believe what he said?

It wasn't until I met my husband that I stopped listening to those voices of self defeat and started trusting what my husband was telling me. It took a while to get there - my regret is I didn't trust him sooner.

I spend far too much time surfing Tumblr. The black and white beautiful bodies can be overwhelming. I do love finding little treasures - images that evoke a feeling. Imperfect bodies. Not necessarily just amateur pics. Maybe more thoughtful moments?

The image below is beyond my reach when it comes to body image. But I still liked it. The fact she's squatting, legs spread. The strap on in your face, but sort of not. I like her outfit.

Stag, I appreciate it when you're here. You speak up, you bring an interesting point of view. I think you give a voice to many lurkers.

 

[justasimplegirl]

Yay! Discussion!

I'm going to hunt down a pic of real me eek because I like to put my muffin top where my mouth is.

Keep your eye on the av...

Forgive the interruption but I wanted to say that your AV is stunning.

 

[cookiecat]

Yay! Discussion!

I'm going to hunt down a pic of real me eek because I like to put my muffin top where my mouth is.

Keep your eye on the av...

 

[lakesailer_mi]

Hey Stag - although totally different reasons, I understand when images become to hard to look at. I have difficulty going in to oral or control. It brings up sad memories. But I feel manic with that, too -- I'll post furiously for a day because I get caught up in those memories.

As to body image issues -- it's such a sad, paralyzing thing. How often, in my past, thinking I wasn't good enough to be naked and let go and enjoy. The meme you posted - if I don't think I'm good enough - how could she? Yup. That. And yet, when a guy stood before me with a hard cock, because I *was* naked - why couldn't I believe what he said?

It wasn't until I met my husband that I stopped listening to those voices of self defeat and started trusting what my husband was telling me. It took a while to get there - my regret is I didn't trust him sooner.

I spend far too much time surfing Tumblr. The black and white beautiful bodies can be overwhelming. I do love finding little treasures - images that evoke a feeling. Imperfect bodies. Not necessarily just amateur pics. Maybe more thoughtful moments?

The image below is beyond my reach when it comes to body image. But I still liked it. The fact she's squatting, legs spread. The strap on in your face, but sort of not. I like her outfit.

Stag, I appreciate it when you're here. You speak up, you bring an interesting point of view. I think you give a voice to many lurkers.

Thank you. I think this is a great discussion. And I know how difficult it is sometimes to talk about things like this.

Stag, you've done great service here.

Honey, thank you too.

 

[lakesailer_mi]

Maybe I just remember some of her other av peeks a little too fondly.

LMAO...as do I brother...as do I!!!!

 

[yukonnights]

I think Stag is making some great points in a very general sense.
And Honey echos it: so much of the visual erotica is focused on "model beautiful" people.

I would offer, Stag, that this is not merely a problem in the femdom arena. I suspect if you took a poll of women on Lit they would give you an earful.
Most of them don't look like the models that are so often depicted in so many of the pic threads.

It's nice that Honey and others have put up threads (see Honey's "chubby tummies of Lit") where that's not true.

But doesn't it go even beyond erotica? Are we not bombarded daily with suggestions that we fall short in virtually ever part of life...even the car I drive makes me less desirable. And yes, it touches every 'group' from hetero women to transgender ftm and everyone in between...it even impacts those who are young and vibrant! How many young men and women never felt attractive enough, even though they were?

Truth is, most of us enjoy looking at beauty. Even in non-erotic things like a fresh flower instead of one that is faded...or a cute puppy instead of the old dog whose hair isn't quite right anymore. It takes an artful eye to see and seek out unconventional beauty...often those eys are older and wiser eyes.

I think we should enjoy beauty, and not compare ourselves to it. I can't recall ever hearing an older person wishing to go back. The beauty of the mind, the experience of a life lived well, the imagination shaped by memories...these too paint a beautiful image, even if it's only in the mind.

 

[lakesailer_mi]

But doesn't it go even beyond erotica? Are we not bombarded daily with suggestions that we fall short in virtually ever part of life...even the car I drive makes me less desirable. And yes, it touches every 'group' from hetero women to transgender ftm and everyone in between...it even impacts those who are young and vibrant! How many young men and women never felt attractive enough, even though they were?

Truth is, most of us enjoy looking at beauty. Even in non-erotic things like a fresh flower instead of one that is faded...or a cute puppy instead of the old dog whose hair isn't quite right anymore. It takes an artful eye to see and seek out unconventional beauty...often those eys are older and wiser eyes.

I think we should enjoy beauty, and not compare ourselves to it. I can't recall ever hearing an older person wishing to go back. The beauty of the mind, the experience of a life lived well, the imagination shaped by memories...these too paint a beautiful image, even if it's only in the mind.

Well said!

 

[Shankara20]

...The black and white beautiful bodies can be overwhelming. I do love finding little treasures - images that evoke a feeling. Imperfect bodies. Not necessarily just amateur pics. Maybe more thoughtful moments?

...

Yup - the perfect body male and female pics can be overwhelming for me as well...

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

not your first pic of your RL body, but that seems like a decidedly unflattering angle.

I appreciate the sentiment. Thank you.

You're welcome, of course.

And I appreciate you making the point! I started by saying that.
I think another point you're making (and if I'm wrong, I apologize, I do not mean to put words in your mouth), is that while society does seem to be beginning to recognize the impact that this has on women, the same cannot be said for men.

Stag: I want to make this clear. I VERY MUCH agree with you, and I am GRATEFUL that you are making this point.

Perhaps it's unflattering, but I will tell you this: If I ever had the opportunity to see that view in real life? I would consider it an honor. A privileged. Extremely arousing.

Forgive the interruption but I wanted to say that your AV is stunning.

Thank you!

cookie

Maybe I just remember some of her other av peeks a little too fondly.

LMAO...as do I brother...as do I!!!!

Ack! You boys!

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

Predicament.

Yikes! He looks focused.

Out for a morning jog.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

You lost me at giant metal ball on a stick in the urethra.. Good lord.. you could totally get some kind of infection!

Not if done correctly....

What the hell is an insertion wand??? I thought I knew everything!!

Well they are called be several names such as "sounds" if they are medical devices, they go up the urethra for insertion play. I had one custom made for me that I can insert and leave in place for hours, it is hollow so I can pee with it in place.

In all fairness to this thread, I was first introduced to this by Ma'am when I was strapped down naked and spread eagle in a harness. Scared the fuck out of me as she slid that steel rod in to my dick - but in time I fell in love with the damn things.


(Photos posted on request in my pics thread )

Urethra play isn't dark at all. Done correctly, it's an amazing feeling. It adds to the sexual tension, the feeling of having yet another hole used, of being even more opened up.

It's all really really good.

Quoting this convo because I accidentally discovered sounding on my own, before Lit. I'm a curious girl!

I think it would be awesome to play with someone who really knew what they were doing in this area and who would teach me/let me experiment on them.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

Yay! Older folks!
She looks like she means business.

Fun down on the farm

Yay! Chubby folks!
She looks like she's enjoying the tease.

 

[pumperguy191]

Quoting this convo because I accidentally discovered sounding on my own, before Lit. I'm a curious girl!

I think it would be awesome to play with someone who really knew what they were doing in this area and who would teach me/let me experiment on them.

I've got very little experience. I have enjoyed it though. I know of another site where you may get more info. PM if interested.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

I like the thought of having unlimited access.

Another nice handie pic.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

I've got very little experience. I have enjoyed it though. I know of another site where you may get more info. PM if interested.

Thanks! I don't have the time or opportunity to pursue it right now, but I appreciate the offer!

 

[pumperguy191]

Thanks! I don't have the time or opportunity to pursue it right now, but I appreciate the offer!

not a problem, I understand,

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

The pink collar - !!

If I've already posted this, forgive me. My brain is cloudy these days...

And more hands...

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

These are both wonderful.

Her passion, his devotion.

Love them.

 

[yukonnights]

It's all in the mind, you know. (Spike Milligan)

Bondage Of The Mind -> (a bit large for thread)

 

[yukonnights]

I admit it...sometimes I disobey just to be punished. (She thinks I don't like this...that's the key to topping from the bottom, you know )

 

[LucyCanyon]

I admit it...sometimes I disobey just to be punished. (She thinks I don't like this...that's the key to topping from the bottom, you know )

Good tip... and sexy picture, a joyful position to be in for both!