matt gaetz v mccarthy... is gaetz about to see the boot up his jaxi?

[jaF0]

Transparency is crucial.

 

[butters]

so, back to the topic:

are the people calling for trump as speaker doing so because

A) just to appeal to maga supporters (mindful of their own next elections) in the full knowledge their own rules ban trump from serving in the position, so entirely all show no substance?

B) they believe they can get the rule overturned and actually install him?

personally, i see both motives at play

 

[KeithD]

Mary Trump has the definitive reason that Donald Trump won't become Speaker of the House. It requires doing work.

 

[YDB95]

I keep telling people...you can't expect a broken system to fix itself by using that broken system.

In 42 days...the Govt will close and they will default on their loans. Great plan. Both Parties have fucked this up. And that fact will fall on deaf ears

Exactly what do you feel the Democrats did wrong here? We now know they even offered McCarthy a deal that would have kept him in the Speaker's chair, if you believe that is somehow a good thing. It's not their fault he wouldn't deal.

Adrina, both Republicans and Democrats play the game. Don't pretend that it's only after those evil Republicans do something that the angelic Democrats are pushed to return in kind.

Neither she nor anyone else here said the Dems walked on water.

Part of the blockade against Democratic nominations may have been born out of how the nominations of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court were treated by Democratic Senators.

Indeed. The Dems treated a right wing exremist like a right wing extremist, and some (but not quite enough) treated a right wing extremist who was also guilty of sexual harassment just like such a person deserved to be treated.

Senate Democrats were successful in vilifying and defaming Bork ( thus the term "Borked" was born).

Name one thing they said about him that wasn't supported by the facts.

Of course, Senator Ted Kennedy, that bastion of moral authority, the same man who left a young woman submerged in a body of water and didn't report the accident for at least 9 hours and possibly closer to 10 1/2 hours, depending on the timeline you want to go with, was able to paint Bork as a bad man. See how that works? You can go around in circles showing the other side is responsible and they are the bad guys.

Kennedy's own past did not excuse Bork's in any way. See how that works?

As far as Trump, I'm no fan. He demands loyalty, but gives none in return. His boorish behavior is tiresome. He shirks responsibility. But, the first impeachment trial was not born out of any real evidence.

If you genuinely believe that, you must have steered awfully clear of any news sources for months. That he made the phone call and tried to blackmail Zelensky isn't even really in dispute. He and his supporters just think it was OK to do what he did. And they were wrong.

Hillary Clinton approved passing uncorroborated information to a reporter that Trump was tied to a Russian bank. Not going to get into Fusion GPS, Sussman, etc but the Russian Collusion was a big nothing burger.

No, it wasn't, and the Mueller Report that people like you love to claim exonerates him actually does the exact opposite. "We couldn't find a smoking gun" does not mean "He's innocent".

 

[Chernosoth]

 

[icanhelp1]

You must not read my posts like I do yours. I can, if warranted, engage in a back and forth dialogue, but I try to limit that to one subject matter.

And what subject matter might that be? Most of your bullshit is just that bullshit and sharpshooting.

It’s very difficult to do that with you because you soak your posts with Gish gallop speculation.

Unlike most belligerent lit posters like yourself I don't google every fucking thing for the sole purpose of making myself look more informed than I need to be. I avoid the nuisance of copy and pasting a hundred times a day for the sake of getting attention. I also don't bash Biden in every post like some clowns do towards Trump. We all know who the Trump haters are, they won't let us forget.

I find mocking you preferable. But don’t be fooled. Underneath my joking seethes a red hot hatred for lies and misinformation.

What misinformation might that be. You accuse but never point it out. You babble on and on like you're some self appointed LIT Nazis. You're a phony, a joke.

Don't be fooled? I'm returning a response to clarify I don't give a fuck about your seething red hot hatred, you're a one person clown show.

I do wish I could meet face to face those accusing me of keyboard warrioring.

You have a problem that needs attention, you're a chronic whiner, take a pill.

The wrongful things people advocate here for has caused real world harm to me and the people I love.

If you can't take the heat get the fuck out crybaby! Again, you're a phony. I don't go out of my way to hurt anyone here or anywhere else for that matter.

Wrongful things people advocate. How does that earn me your IRE?? Real world harm to you and people you love??? How did I earn that?

You don't like guns *tough shit!* it's a constitutional right.

My bravado, if you want to accuse me of that, in real life is not backed by a gun. I publicly use my mouth as a 1A weapon to call out bigotry and hatred.

Your BRAVADO? you're nothing more that a windbag. If you want to call out bigotry and hatred thenlook in the mirror. You fucking lunes see racism and bigotry behind every tree, you make that accusation at every opportunity, so much so it makes you irrelevant. Your obsessed with it. You and your posse use it as a cudgel along with ad-hom... not to support an argument... but rather demean posters with opposing opinions. Again you're a phony.

And privileged white males who catch my ire, no matter what size, go the other way upon hearing me.

Like Hunter and Joe? Privileged white males on steroids That statement makes you a racist you fucking hypocrite.

Your ire? No one fears your ire dipshit.

I certainly don't condone racism or bigotry. I've called Floyd a piece of shit at times because you and people like you idolize the thug, that's not being a racist. I consider him a POS because of his character not his color(Lol, unless they are in crowds of 2 or more because then they’re emboldened and I’m no fool).It’s very difficult to do that with you because you soak your posts with Gish gallop speculation

What misinformation might that be. You accuse but never point it out. You babble on and on like you're some self appointed LIT Nazis. You're a phony, a joke.

Don't be fooled? I'm returning a response to clarify I don't give a fuck about your seething red hot hatred, you're a one person clown show.

I do wish I could meet face to face those accusing me of keyboard warrioring.

You have a problem that needs attention, you're a chronic whiner, take a pill.

The wrongful things people advocate here for has caused real world harm to me and the people I love.

If you can't take the heat get the fuck out crybaby! Again, you're a phony. I don't go out of my way to hurt anyone here or anywhere else for that matter.

Wrongful things people advocate. How does that earn me your IRE?? Real world harm to you and people you love??? How did I earn that?

You don't like guns *tough shit!* it's a constitutional right.

My bravado, if you want to accuse me of that, in real life is not backed by a gun. I publicly use my mouth as a 1A weapon to call out bigotry and hatred.

Your BRAVADO? you're nothing more that a windbag. If you want to call out bigotry and hatred than look in the mirror. You fucking lunes see racism and bigotry behind every tree, you make that accusation at every opportunity, so much so it makes you irrelevant. You're obsessed with it. You and your posse use it as a cudgel along with ad-hom... not to support an argument... but rather demean posters with opposing opinions. Again you're a phony.

And privileged white males who catch my ire, no matter what size, go the other way upon hearing me.

Like Hunter and Joe? Privileged white males on steroids! That statement makes you a racist you fucking hypocrite.

Your ire? No one fears your ire dipshit.

I certainly don't condone racism or bigotry. I've called Floyd a piece of shit at times because you and people like you idolize the thug, that's not being a racist. I consider him a POS because of his character not his color
Look in the mirror. Self awareness would go a long way.

This is how ignorant you are about my politics. I've written on many occasions that I can't stand Trump but many of his policies were effective and because of that you and your posse accuse me of carrying water for the guy.

I don't know you from a hole in the wall, you've been belligerent towards me not me to you.

Fuck it, it double posted

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Unlike most belligerent lit posters like yourself I don't google every fucking thing for the sole purpose of making myself look more informed than I need to be.

Yes, we've all seen how your desire to not check out the "facts" that you post, have come back to bite you in the ass. Hundreds if not thousands of times here on the PB.

Using the internet to confirm, look up, or find the correct answers is not "trying to look more informed". It's what intelligent people do to make sure what they are posting is actually the truth of the matter.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Fuck it, it double posted

And after four years here, you still can't figure out how to quote, or even edit your own posts...*chuckles* Maybe "google it"!!

 

[YDB95]

I also don't bash Biden in every post like some clowns do towards Trump.

I guess I can't deny that calling ALL Democrats America-hating communists with TDS isn't exactly the same as bashing Biden...

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709629391037452706

bwahahahaha...get a load of Little Big Man there...

 

[Rotadom]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709629391037452706

bwahahahaha...get a load of Little Big Man there...

Now I know what the love child of Orville Redenbacher and Louis Farrakhan would look like.

 

[Rotadom]

 

[icanhelp1]

One last thing - the day that you or any other well meaning individual on the right takes a stand and calls out the likes of RG for his overt racism or misogyny and informs him to stop because he’s misrepresenting true conservative values then you will find me wholeheartedly backing you up in support.
I’ve posted this quote repeatedly, “The standard you walk past is the standard you accept.” Until someone on your side says something against that language then I will continue to believe that you’re a racist douche as well as you continue posting right next to that BS.

“To accept a lower standard is to create a new standard “ Warrant officer academy United States Army

 

[Bn2f]

I try to engage in dialogue not sharpshoot every comment I read. I know you think you're clever, a brave keyboard warrior, in reality you're an insecure brat starved for attention. It's posters like you that ruin the PB. I never asked you to jump into my conversations or behaving like the lonely busybody you are chasing attention. Grow up!

Apologies to the board, butters, for this rant.

I went off thinking that I had posted 2 of the most conciliatory posts that I could - an invite for you to take me up on my words and discuss a (one) subject matter just between you and I. That’s on me for not being more specific. Instead, I come back to see you continue in your whining. Sigh. There are folks here who line by line can take the time to contradict talking points (TY, YDB95). I envy their diligence and patience. You, and your ilk, are the Scott Farkus’s of the world. You’re the bullies and wrestling heels who, when even mildly punched, quickly cry and crawl on your knees asking for mercy when what constantly rings in my libtard ears are the violence laden calls to fuck people’s feelings, grab her by the pussy, and 3rd world shithole countries sending their rapists. In the real world, though I’ve said that I voice my opinions, I’m still cognizant of the subtle tapping of a concealed holster and threat of violence. Here, the playing field is level, and, I AM a bully. But I’m a bully using only my words and I come with the desire/expectation to get punched back in my nose hard by conservative logic and reasoning. You don’t deliver. Your ilk fails constantly and repeatedly all over this board in doing so and so it’s not unexpected that you tell others of your wishes to then ‘meet you outside’ where that subtle 2a threat tilts your lacking logic back into real harm legitimacy. I seek out information. Being proven wrong is a tool for growth. You come here daily still steadfast in stereotypes and falsehoods proven wrong the day before. I am open to be criticized by peers on the left and even in this thread you can see policy infighting taking place. I don’t see that here from those representing the right and I’ve already highlighted the ignorant acceptance of toxic morality on the right that no one on the left would allow me to get away with posting, but I will do so again with yet another example: If I’m advocating for single payer and an ally whips out a confederate flag next to me then it’s time for me to go home, reevaluate my position on life, and also my stance on healthcare. Your tepid criticism of republicans comes only with the backhanded fault ultimately falling on some perceived democratic action. I will continue to be a bully to you, RG, sky and whoever with my dumb jokes and nonviolent mocks to your hypocrisy that, I may, if I so choose, occasionally back up with critical thinking and credible sources. Punch back. Hit those keys and put me in my place. I dare you. No, you show your true self by crying that the outspoken liberal went and gave you a sad. The term snowflake was always a projection of conservative insecurity. Yaaawwwwn. I bore myself trying to be rational when there are dick jokes to be said. Again, my apologies to the board. I’m done. Icanhelp1, I’ll catch you on another thread - you are free to respond here with no more rebuttals from me.

 

[Lazaran]

“To accept a lower standard is to create a new standard “ Warrant officer academy United States Army

^
(Quoted for posterity, audacity, and irony)

ineedhelp1 voted for the rapey, racist, misogynistic, corrupt orange traitor who dodged serving in the military and slandered the soldiers who did serve , and then DARES to insert the lowering of standards into this thread???

ineedhelp1 helped lower the standard for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES for all time.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Rotadom]

 

[Bn2f]

[/QUOTE]

Now I know what the love child of Orville Redenbacher and Louis Farrakhan would look like.

Ugh! This is a terribly dated joke. Redenbacher died in ‘95. I don’t think the kids today even know what Farrakhan looks like or dresses. For this joke I give 2 thumbs up approval for giving me a spit take laugh and urging to continue on and keep ‘em coming!

 

[Chernosoth]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709629391037452706

bwahahahaha...get a load of Little Big Man there...

Where do you want it? Mouth, face or ass?

 

[Dribble]

why is it you don't demand the same of every mod on each board here you post on? smacks of hypocrisy
why should ANY mod create an additional ID to use on forums they don't mod in just because you demand it? that is entirely unreasonable and—much like the demands of 'give voters what they want or they won't vote' rather than accept there's a broader dimension, i.e 'responsible adults know their vote is the legal way to attempt to make things the way they want it'—reeks of entitlement

As have a lot of people, I'm sure. I'd hope that if your job didn't involve any typing: your common error of your v you're is one we most frequently see coming from the trumpies here, who display their insufficient grasp of basic American-English on a daily basis in ignorant posts.

Well butters that is simple. I post in very specific forums. Every mod in those forums can be ignored. Every. Except one. Only one. There may be others here...but I don't interact with them.

It started in this forum...with the creation of threads whose sole purpose is to foster dissention. Hate. The exact behavior I used to see by our extreme right wingers.

He then...took his anger and hatred to a different forum. One that you do not visit...so one you are not vested in. Women there...started contacting me complaining about how they feel creeped out. How he posts in their threads after being asked to go away. And how his cryptic posts are being received as personal attacks. Given how he attacks people here....just like you do...it is not a surprise others elsewhere don't want their Lit experience taken from them.

I realize Butter...being stalked...isn't something you have to worry about. But others do. In the Forum where these complaints are being vocalized...we have a sticky telling people to liberally use the ignore Function. He is not a mod in that forum. He is a troll stalking certain women.

So I speak up. And I will continue to speak up. Go ahead....throw your weight behind a creep that stalks women. It is that simple

 

[Dribble]

Great video on CNN talking about why the insiders are predicting Jordan as the next Speaker. That is a real possibility that Democrats must embrace. Was it worth it if this happens?

 

[icanhelp1]

^
(Quoted for posterity, audacity, and irony)

ineedhelp1 voted for the rapey, racist, misogynistic, corrupt orange traitor who dodged serving in the military and slandered the soldiers who did serve , and then DARES to insert the lowering of standards into this thread???

ineedhelp1 helped lower the standard for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES for all time.

JFC

SAD!!!

You are the most shallow poster on Lit. You demonstrate daily your hatred for Trump and follow it with hatred towards posters who voted for Trump. How do you handle hating 71 million people.

You lack objectivity and refusal to accept the incompetence of your leader in chief. The amount of suffering he has caused in our country or for those suffering migrants that are killed and raped daily . Over 80 thousand children missing and Biden doesn’t care. Winter is coming and thousands will live on the streets. Billions of dollars are being drained from small economies that are overwhelmed with a situation they didn’t ask for and yet you toot his horn like he was some sort of savior. Your hatred is misplaced. Biden has proved on a daily basis he’s incompetent and a direct threat to our security as our nation. There are many millions of Americans who question who is really running our country but it’s obvious who ever props him up is a Marxist. If an invasion of Taiwan actually happens do you feel comfortable with Biden at the helm. His military judgement is flawed, actually he doesn’t know what he’s doing as demonstrated by his complete fuckup of the withdrawal from Afghanistan. And yet we didn’t have these crisis during Trump’s administration.

Many of us predicted a migrant crisis, cities are overwhelmed, progressive leaders in these cities are crying for help forced to accept the chaos generated from a clueless leader in the White House.

Your hatred for Trump has skewed your judgment.

3 years ago I could buy Hamburg for $4.29 a lb now it’s $8.29a lb, Thanh’s Joe.!

 

[adrina]

You are the most shallow poster on Lit. You demonstrate daily your hatred for Trump and follow it with hatred towards posters who voted for Trump. How do you handle hating 71 million people.

You lack objectivity and refusal to accept the incompetence of your leader in chief. The amount of suffering he has caused in our country or for those suffering migrants that are killed and raped daily . Over 80 thousand children missing and Biden doesn’t care. Winter is coming and thousands will live on the streets. Billions of dollars are being drained from small economies that are overwhelmed with a situation they didn’t ask for and yet you toot his horn like he was some sort of savior. Your hatred is misplaced. Biden has proved on a daily basis he’s incompetent and a direct threat to our security as our nation. There are many millions of Americans who question who is really running our country but it’s obvious who ever props him up is a Marxist. If an invasion of Taiwan actually happens do you feel comfortable with Biden at the helm. His military judgement is flawed, actually he doesn’t know what he’s doing as demonstrated by his complete fuckup of the withdrawal from Afghanistan. And yet we didn’t have these crisis during Trump’s administration.

Many of us predicted a migrant crisis, cities are overwhelmed, progressive leaders in these cities are crying for help forced to accept the chaos generated from a clueless leader in the White House.

Your hatred for Trump has skewed your judgment.

3 years ago I could buy Hamburg for $4.29 a lb now it’s $8.29a lb, Thanh’s Joe.!

Irony.

A trumper complaining of incivility and hate when they cheered on the fucking asshole who told everyone multiple times a day how much liberals and Democrats hate the country and are trying to destroy it.

Fuck you and fuck off with your hypocrisy.

Cry some more you fucking snowflake. Perhaps you shouldn't support a divisive asshole who turned the presidency into a fan club for a narcissist.

 

[Lazaran]

P

Irony.

A trumper complaining of incivility and hate when they cheered on the fucking asshole who told everyone multiple times a day how much liberals and Democrats hate the country and are trying to destroy it.

Fuck you and fuck off with your hypocrisy.

Cry some more you fucking snowflake. Perhaps you shouldn't support a divisive asshole who turned the presidency into a fan club for a narcissist.

I am sooooo loathe to engage with idiots like ineedhelp1, - That completely unhinged response / reaction, to their hypocrisy about the lowering of standards being pointed out, is a perfect example of why I am soooo loathe to engage with them.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Bn2f]

P


I am sooooo loathe to engage with idiots like ineedhelp1, - That completely unhinged response / reaction, to their hypocrisy about the lowering of standards being pointed out, is a perfect example of why I am soooo loathe to engage with them.

JFC

SAD!!!

Haha! You!
I’m laughing at you! Just as I was thinking about maybe taking a softer approach to icanhelp1, come to find out it’s you! You’re the most loathsome here! Haha!

 

[Lazaran]

Haha! You!
I’m laughing at you! Just as I was thinking about maybe taking a softer approach to icanhelp1, come to find out it’s you! You’re the most loathsome here! Haha!

I am one of the banes of the Deplorables’ existence here on the PB.

I have earned the coveted "Harpy IGGY"

I’m no Rory, but I have my moments.



P.S. - I like your style. - It’s smart, controlled crazy clap back. It will drive the Deplorables insane.