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graceanne said:
Damn puritans. So here's a question: what did they do? I mean they were required to spend HOURS in church. I bet they breastfed in public.
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Probably a little room at the back of the church where you could still hear the enlightening *cough* sermon, but still not offend God with the sight of boobies.

:D
 
sunfox said:
Probably a little room at the back of the church where you could still hear the enlightening *cough* sermon, but still not offend God with the sight of boobies.

:D
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LOL, Um, God made Boobies too !!!

God also made the rest of the body. Which is another topic of of Moral Hang ups in the US. The naked for Porn vs Art. No I will not go there.

I think we Americans have a lot of hang ups. How much of it the Puritanical background, all the ethnic mixes, etc. We all have different backgrounds. That is what makes America what it is. It is our strength and our weakness. Today our weakness seems to be corporate greed. They surely lost any sense of the word Moral.

In essence I see nothing wrong with breast feeding. It was always a protection factor for me. What is the reality, protection from a percieved stare, look or peek vs a hungry baby? I do think some care or modesty should be excercised but not to the detriment of the Mom.

If I meet that right woman I will need patience but I have a good start after this thread. For you women whose hubby's thought like me, did they come around also? Were you able to show them or did you have to get tough with them???
 
TigerClaw said:
In essence I see nothing wrong with breast feeding. It was always a protection factor for me. What is the reality, protection from a percieved stare, look or peek vs a hungry baby? I do think some care or modesty should be excercised but not to the detriment of the Mom.

If I meet that right woman I will need patience but I have a good start after this thread. For you women whose hubby's thought like me, did they come around also? Were you able to show them or did you have to get tough with them???
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I think the error is in believing that she needs protection. ;)

Does a male bear feel he needs to protect the female? No.. she is the fierce one, in defense of her offspring... the same is true of nearly every animal, and we are no different.

When your baby is crying, believe me, the very last thing on your mind is if someone is looking, and it quite simply doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Not to mention that my significant other soon found that there was really nothing sexy about leaky breasts that hurt, and a really cranky woman attached to them... and anyone who had the immense stupidity to leer at me would soon feel very much like someone caught between a mother bear and her cub. :D

My PYL didn't have any issue with public breastfeeding... after all, as long as I was breastfeeding, it was me getting up when she was hungry in the middle of the night, because I was carrying the food. :D But in any other issue where we have had a difference of understanding, he has always been very interested in why I feel the way I do, and has always left the final decision up to me and what I am comfortable with.

Most often, we agree with each other in the end anyway. Parenting, for us, is not a D/s thing... it's an equals thing. Equally frustrated, equally happy, and equally concerned.
 
sunfox said:
Most often, we agree with each other in the end anyway. Parenting, for us, is not a D/s thing... it's an equals thing. Equally frustrated, equally happy, and equally concerned.
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I just loved that line.

This thread has definitely opened my eyes. I know it would have been a very soar spot between me and my woman. Now, I think I could manage it.

I want to disagree with you on the protection issue but for the most part I think you are right.
 
sunfox said:
I think the error is in believing that she needs protection. ;)

Does a male bear feel he needs to protect the female? No.. she is the fierce one, in defense of her offspring... the same is true of nearly every animal, and we are no different.
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LOL That is so true. My daughter was throwing a fit in the store, so I pulled her around a clothing rack to threaten her with death if she didn't stop acting up, and some woman took it upon herself to tell me that I was a rotten mother, and I was ruining my childs self esteem. Kenny just about had to pull me off her. Stupid witch.

Also, my sister used to live in one of those apartment complexes where there are kids everywhere. The speed limit is like 5 mph, and their's speed bumps every few feet. We were cleaning out her garage, and our kids were playing in the grass on the other side of the parking lot. Some woman drove up and started chewing our asses for neglecting out children (we could see them, they were like 5 feet away). By the time I was done with her, she'd just drove off in a huff.
 
Morals???

Damn...I'm still over on another thread, trying to decide if I'm a Sadist or not (the jury is still out) ..And now I'm supposed to have ....Morals... Jeeze..
 
TigerClaw said:
I just loved that line.

This thread has definitely opened my eyes. I know it would have been a very soar spot between me and my woman. Now, I think I could manage it.

I want to disagree with you on the protection issue but for the most part I think you are right.
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Thanks. ;)

Like CutieMouse said.. coming between a woman and her nursing child is just not a wise thing to do. We don't need protection. We just need your support, whatever we choose to do.

And for me personally, the day I need someone to protect me, for whatever reason, is the day I'm being put in the ground. :D
 
graceanne said:
LOL That is so true. My daughter was throwing a fit in the store, so I pulled her around a clothing rack to threaten her with death if she didn't stop acting up, and some woman took it upon herself to tell me that I was a rotten mother, and I was ruining my childs self esteem. Kenny just about had to pull me off her. Stupid witch.

Also, my sister used to live in one of those apartment complexes where there are kids everywhere. The speed limit is like 5 mph, and their's speed bumps every few feet. We were cleaning out her garage, and our kids were playing in the grass on the other side of the parking lot. Some woman drove up and started chewing our asses for neglecting out children (we could see them, they were like 5 feet away). By the time I was done with her, she'd just drove off in a huff.
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This cracked me up completely! Of course.. it's three in the morning (insomniac ;) ) so hopefully I didn't wake anyone up giggling like a loony.
 
graceanne said:

Also, my sister used to live in one of those apartment complexes where there are kids everywhere. The speed limit is like 5 mph, and their's speed bumps every few feet. We were cleaning out her garage, and our kids were playing in the grass on the other side of the parking lot. Some woman drove up and started chewing our asses for neglecting out children (we could see them, they were like 5 feet away). By the time I was done with her, she'd just drove off in a huff.
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I should reply in the piss me off thread. It was common for us when we were kids not only to be across the street but a few blocks over at the park at 10. The freedom and we all thought it was restricting then was immense compared to today.

Now, when you realize crime is down, lower then when I was a kid in the sixties and seventies, it is FAR safer for a kid to play today then when I was growing up.

It is MY paranioa that keeps me in any childs visual sight. I dont let them know. I play with them etc. and have a grand ole time. I would not yell at a parent for the above because I realize it is my over concern.

Now, what pisses me off is what was customary has now turned into neglect bacause of some people. If I let a child do what I did and for the time it WAS restricted I wouldnt be surprised if I had to explain myself to the police because of a nosy neighbor. Watching out for each other is good. Watching so you can nail somebody is not watching out.

Whose morals is correct? Yours, Hers, or her having the Balls to reprimand you. Sorry, my protective instinct would have kicked in on that incident.
 
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sunfox said:
This cracked me up completely! Of course.. it's three in the morning (insomniac ;) ) so hopefully I didn't wake anyone up giggling like a loony.
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lol My husband thought it was funny, too. I didn't, I was still ticked. Suffice to say he normally is pulling me off people when it comes to kids, not protecting me. lol
 
TigerClaw said:
I should reply in the piss me off thread. It was common for us when we were kids not only to be across the street but a few blocks over at the park at 10. The freedom and we all thought it was restricting then was immense compared to today.

Now, when you realize crime is down, lower then when I was a kid in the sixties and seventies, it is FAR safer for a kid to play today then when I was growing up.

It is MY paranioa that keeps me in any childs visual sight. I dont let them know. I play with them etc. and have a grand ole time. I would not yell at a parent for the above because I realize it is my over concern.

Now, what pisses me off is what was customary has now turned into neglect bacause of some people. If I let a child do what I did and for the time it WAS restricted I wouldnt be surprised if I had to explain myself to the police because of a nosy neighbor. Watching out for each other is good. Watching so you can nail somebody is not watching out.

Whose morals is correct? Yours, Hers, or her having the Balls to reprimand you. Sorry, my protective instinct would have kicked in on that incident.
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Well they were safe. I could see them, and they weren't playing in the street, we were being very careful about that. But the fact of the matter is that the garage needed to be cleaned out, and no one was volunteering to a)clean it or b) watch the kids while we did. Either way, the day I take the advice of a stranger on how to raise my kids is the day they bury my cold dead body. I have rules about what kind of people I take child rearing advice from.

1. I have to know them

2. They have to have (or had) children.

3. Their children not only have to be adults, but have to be contributing members of society. In other words their children have to have turned out ok.
 
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EKVITKAR said:
Damn...I'm still over on another thread, trying to decide if I'm a Sadist or not (the jury is still out) ..And now I'm supposed to have ....Morals... Jeeze..
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Don't you just hate having to have opinions :D
 
graceanne said:
lol My husband thought it was funny, too. I didn't, I was still ticked. Suffice to say he normally is pulling me off people when it comes to kids, not protecting me. lol
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My SO gets that duty sometimes too.. I'm absolutely rabid about the safety of my child. We also have three large dogs, and a fourth coming early next year that will top out at about 125lbs or so. ;) You'd have to be insane to come on our property looking to touch that kid.
 
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TigerClaw said:
I was with one person who had what turned out to be very different morals. I would not enter a relationship like that again. She felt the need to feed her desires behind my back that I could not agree with or share.
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In other words perhaps, you didn't give her what she needed, or enough of it!
 
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Dom Uk Guy said:
In other words perhaps, you didn't give her what she needed, or enough of it!
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I read this three times, just to make sure I read it right.
 
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Kajira Callista said:
lol then i read it four to make sure i read it right and you did also.
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too bad there's no raised eyebrow emoticon for situations like this.
 
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Kajira Callista said:
o...how do we borrow it...or where is AA?
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/:) ? bet that won't work.

I have no idea where he is but he has great emoticons, indeed.
 
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