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Quit assuming Rightguide reads prior to knee-jerk reacting. History says he does not. Ever.The article does not support it's claims.
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Quit assuming Rightguide reads prior to knee-jerk reacting. History says he does not. Ever.The article does not support it's claims.
I'm discussing the OP. You responded to me to disagree with my point.Did I ever state there where not issues in other cities. This is your point, not mine.
It's not always easy. Overall, the OP makes a claim and I want to see where the data supports it. If the claim is that blue cities are the worst, that would imply that red cities aren't experiencing the same issues. On the doom loop, I don't see where this is the case.Thank you for the debate and keeping it civil.
There might be data supporting the claims, but the original article is just one of those "we all know...." type articles.Quit assuming Rightguide reads prior to knee-jerk reacting. History says he does not. Ever.
AKA the Rightguide Special."we all know...."
Yet, you imply data that says red cites suck or have similar issues. Data is out there about blue cities, and I noted some.I'm discussing the OP. You responded to me to disagree with my point.
It's not always easy. Overall, the OP makes a claim and I want to see where the data supports it. If the claim is that blue cities are the worst, that would imply that red cities aren't experiencing the same issues. On the doom loop, I don't see where this is the case.
I could be wrong but have yet to find any data that confirms that... Just a bunch of righties saying "of course blue cities suck" (para.)
Good for Detroit.Some pretend that all cities are failing, but it clearly isn’t true to anyone who has been to cities lately.
You might assume that Detroit is the worst city, but a video like this highlights the real estate development taking place there.
No, I imply your data is incomplete.Yet, you imply data that says red cites suck or have similar issues. Data is out there about blue cities, and I noted some.
I don't. I am not making a claim except that the OP's claim is not supported without additional data. I've seen no data that specific cities' policies are better in disrupting the trends versus others. All I've seen is cherry picked data as the OP has provided.If you have this similar data on red cities I would love to see your data to support your claims that all cities have the same issues to the same degree.
Then provide some data that supports your point.No, I imply your data is incomplete.
How much data would you need? Data and articles have been referenced to show that blue run cities have issues. Yet, please show something to support your claim of red cities.I don't. I am not making a claim except that the OP's claim is not supported without additional data. I've seen no data that specific cities' policies are better in disrupting the trends versus others. All I've seen is cherry picked data as the OP has provided.
My point is that the claim is not sufficiently supported. That lack of data is already provided as I continue to point outThen provide some data that supports your point.
I haven't made a claim about red cities. Ive seen no evidence here that shows that blue cities suffer worse than red cities, as is suggested.How much data would you need? Data and articles have been referenced to show that blue run cities have issues. Yet, please show something to support your claim of red cities.
I have.Support your own claims.
BS, I've posted a ton of such evidence in the past, all of which saw you disappear on an extended head call.According to Ballotpedia - 63/100 largest cities are run by Democrats. (At least by mayoral standard)
So that would mean there are 34 cities where the doom loop isn't occurring because of different policies.
Where is the data supporting this?
Then provide some data that supports your point.
How much data would you need? Data and articles have been referenced to show that blue run cities have issues. Yet, please show something to support your claim of red cities.
Support your own claims.
No, you haven't. Which red cities aren't suffering from doom loops?BS, I've posted a ton of such evidence in the past, all of which saw you disappear on an extended head call.
Talking about the data all of the time. Even when data is given, you want more and more data.My point is that the claim is not sufficiently supported. That lack of data is already provided as I continue to point out
You claim both Red and BLue cites are in the same boat. All of the data given is for blue cities. Show me some on red cities to support your claim.I haven't made a claim about red cities. Ive seen no evidence here that shows that blue cities suffer worse than red cities, as is suggested.
Yah, ok. LOLI have.
Data hasn't been given except the blue city data. How can one suggest it is a limited problem and blame blue city policies?Talking about the data all of the time. Even when data is given, you want more and more data.
I have claimed that there is no data to suggest that this is a blue city problem only, which is the OP claim.You claim both Red and BLue cites are in the same boat. All of the data given is for blue cities. Show me some on red cities to support your claim.
If I were to tell you that fish causes more cancer than steak, and I show you data that fish causes.cancer in 59 people yet provide no data about cancer from steal, would you conclude that my claim is supported or not?Yah, ok. LOL
I've not asked you for anything. I've pointed out that the claim being made isn't supported by the incomplete data provided...and you actually agree since you seem to be missing it as well.Thanks again for the debate. Yet, this is simply become circular. As, you simply ask for data and then for me to supply data to support your point.
Yep. And you pointing out that the claim I made is not sufficiently supported does not result in you needing to provide such data. Yet somehow me doing the same thing is my fault.In you fish causes more cancer than steak, well you should provide information to support your point, not just about fish, but meat including and not limited to beef but all steaks.
Ive already proven my point.Thanks again, get your data together and maybe I will continue.
how did you make this point. You added another factor to the orignal post. You added red cites.I've not asked you for anything. I've pointed out that the claim being made isn't supported by the incomplete data provided...and you actually agree since you seem to be missing it as well.
So wrong, Original post on Democrat St. Louis. Single city and party.Yep. And you pointing out that the claim I made is not sufficiently supported does not result in you needing to provide such data. Yet somehow me doing the same thing is my fault.
Is that so?Ive already proven my point.
So wrong, Original post on Democrat St. Louis. Single city and party.
The OP suggested blue cities are unique yet provided no comparison to support it.how did you make this point. You added another factor to the orignal post. You added red cites.
Perhaps you didn't read the article.So wrong, Original post on Democrat St. Louis. Single city and party.
Your next fish vs steak has two points.
The article suggests it's unique to blue cities.You added the second point of red .. red vs blue yet have no data to support the point.
I haven't seen data that this is a blue city problem only. Nor have I seen which non blue city policies are better.Is that so?
Last word, though I am sure you will have more
They don't get much for their votes. For the past few decades, both parties collaborated in outsourcing the manufacturing jobs, moving most of what's left of our economy to the suburbs, and wrecking the cities. Now some Pubs are starting to try to bring those jobs back. The Dems are fighting them on that, because they don't want to piss off their heavy donors, and because they didn't do it first.Almost all cities in the US vote blue, and that’s why right wing propagandists attack them.
I haven't seen data that this is a blue city problem only. Nor have I seen which non blue city policies are better.